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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year.
Although true, the Jets had the worst goaltending of the playoffs in that series and the Blues still choked hard.
They played over 16 minutes into the SECOND OT. That is not a choke, it's a heck of an effort.
It was the biggest choke in franchise history guy
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:14 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am
son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 09:59 am I wanted him to go full rebuild 2 years ago by trading Buch, Parayko and Binnington...could have gotten a royal haul for the 3 of them. Now we
are too far along to retreat, and I'm not sure we are better than a team that consistently loses in the 1st round. Hope I'm wrong.

We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year. The Blues dont need to tank to draft a Snuggerud who is nationally mentioned for Calder, then its Neighbours,Thomas, Kyrou, Stenberg, Dvorsky, Lindstein etc why would the Blues want to "tank" for a decade and put their fans thru this? I would much rather see a playoff team than gamble for a top 5 pick.
Rebuilding doesn't mean tanking for a decade...that's a false statement. It means contending for the Cup every decade instead of once every 50 years.
Again weak statement why would it take another 50 years. Neighbours, Kyrou and Thomas are some of the highest producing players in their draft classes and we didnt have to pick any higher than 10th since the Blues won a Cup. I win, you dont make sense
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:29 pm
son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:14 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am
son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 09:59 am I wanted him to go full rebuild 2 years ago by trading Buch, Parayko and Binnington...could have gotten a royal haul for the 3 of them. Now we
are too far along to retreat, and I'm not sure we are better than a team that consistently loses in the 1st round. Hope I'm wrong.

We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year. The Blues dont need to tank to draft a Snuggerud who is nationally mentioned for Calder, then its Neighbours,Thomas, Kyrou, Stenberg, Dvorsky, Lindstein etc why would the Blues want to "tank" for a decade and put their fans thru this? I would much rather see a playoff team than gamble for a top 5 pick.
Rebuilding doesn't mean tanking for a decade...that's a false statement. It means contending for the Cup every decade instead of once every 50 years.
Again weak statement why would it take another 50 years. Neighbours, Kyrou and Thomas are some of the highest producing players in their draft classes and we didnt have to pick any higher than 10th since the Blues won a Cup. I win, you dont make sense
Blues have 1 cup in 50 years doing it Army's way...how many times have they even made it past the 2nd round not counting the first 3 years...they are always in playoff contention but rarely in Cup contention. Maybe you are satisfied with mediocrity but I'm not.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:40 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:29 pm
son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:14 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am
son_of_foolsgold wrote: 21 Oct 2025 09:59 am I wanted him to go full rebuild 2 years ago by trading Buch, Parayko and Binnington...could have gotten a royal haul for the 3 of them. Now we
are too far along to retreat, and I'm not sure we are better than a team that consistently loses in the 1st round. Hope I'm wrong.

We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year. The Blues dont need to tank to draft a Snuggerud who is nationally mentioned for Calder, then its Neighbours,Thomas, Kyrou, Stenberg, Dvorsky, Lindstein etc why would the Blues want to "tank" for a decade and put their fans thru this? I would much rather see a playoff team than gamble for a top 5 pick.
Rebuilding doesn't mean tanking for a decade...that's a false statement. It means contending for the Cup every decade instead of once every 50 years.
Again weak statement why would it take another 50 years. Neighbours, Kyrou and Thomas are some of the highest producing players in their draft classes and we didnt have to pick any higher than 10th since the Blues won a Cup. I win, you dont make sense
Blues have 1 cup in 50 years doing it Army's way...how many times have they even made it past the 2nd round not counting the first 3 years...they are always in playoff contention but rarely in Cup contention. Maybe you are satisfied with mediocrity but I'm not.
Your math is wrong. The Blues have 1 cup under Army's 10 years. He is not responsible for anything before his tenure.

Nice try, foolish son.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
By becoming a free agent?
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:58 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
By becoming a free agent?
Oh great. So the Blues can just snag any player that becomes a FA this year? I thought maybe the home team could compete against any new team bidding.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year.
Although true, the Jets had the worst goaltending of the playoffs in that series and the Blues still choked hard.
dummy mc dummerson. The best team in reg season presidents winners facing us barely getting in... and we took them deep into ot....so yeah we choked S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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Hey where did the comment go about worst choke job ever? Did Roman Turek make you take it down? How many sh*t sandwhiches can one troll eat??? My word!!!!!
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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Nublues69 wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:15 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
can you tell me how we got fowler and he turns out to be one of the bst for blues
Teams let go of a player like Fowler because he is too old, and sits outside their Stanley Cup window. He is too old for the Blues window as well, but the Blues don't operate like everyone else.

This is NOT THE CASE for MIkkola. Mikkola is in his prime. The Blues should have kept him, but didn't.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 15:02 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:58 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
By becoming a free agent?
Oh great. So the Blues can just snag any player that becomes a FA this year? I thought maybe the home team could compete against any new team bidding.
He left the Rangers to go to Florida. You want them to bid?
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 15:02 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:58 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
By becoming a free agent?
Oh great. So the Blues can just snag any player that becomes a FA this year? I thought maybe the home team could compete against any new team bidding.
A team can't do anything with A UFA that A UFA does not agree to do.

Its actually pretty complicated, said UFA player has a hard time signing any contract before seeing the market and said team has a very hard time allowing a UFA to go to market opening up the possibility of ending up with nothing. The Blues now have a very good D prospect about to be coming up that they acquired in that trade AND have Fowler and Broberg so I don't see the problem.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:25 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year.
Although true, the Jets had the worst goaltending of the playoffs in that series and the Blues still choked hard.
They played over 16 minutes into the SECOND OT. That is not a choke, it's a heck of an effort.
It was the biggest choke in franchise history guy
We will agree to disagree. If they would have l9st in REGULATION I would entertain your view, but that did NOT happen.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 18:10 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:25 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year.
Although true, the Jets had the worst goaltending of the playoffs in that series and the Blues still choked hard.
They played over 16 minutes into the SECOND OT. That is not a choke, it's a heck of an effort.
It was the biggest choke in franchise history guy
We will agree to disagree. If they would have l9st in REGULATION I would entertain your view, but that did NOT happen.
Yeah I’m sure they were “at least we hung on til OT boys”

They got gut punched emotionally. It was epic
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 18:16 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 18:10 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:25 pm
DawgDad wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
theograce wrote: 21 Oct 2025 14:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:07 am We can agree to disagree your plan doesnt make sense. The Blues were 2 seconds from the 2nd round last year.
Although true, the Jets had the worst goaltending of the playoffs in that series and the Blues still choked hard.
They played over 16 minutes into the SECOND OT. That is not a choke, it's a heck of an effort.
It was the biggest choke in franchise history guy
We will agree to disagree. If they would have l9st in REGULATION I would entertain your view, but that did NOT happen.
Yeah I’m sure they were “at least we hung on til OT boys”

They got gut punched emotionally. It was epic
This from a guy that claims to be a fan and comes up with (bleep). Troll on bleedyboi.
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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For anyone feeling "stuck" with Army's retool, you're actually not stuck. You can feel free to leave, and root for another team that prefers to tank and be a loser for a number of years, and enjoy the draft picks
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Re: So now we are stuck with Army's "retool"

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a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 15:31 pm
Nublues69 wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:15 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 21 Oct 2025 13:10 pm
skilles wrote: 21 Oct 2025 10:18 am 4 of the top 5 scores for the Panthers in the playoffs last year were drafted by someone else.
Great. Let's learn from that!

Can you do a book report on how Mikkola moved from a mediocre team that needs defense to a Cup team that is overflowing with defense?
can you tell me how we got fowler and he turns out to be one of the bst for blues
Teams let go of a player like Fowler because he is too old, and sits outside their Stanley Cup window. He is too old for the Blues window as well, but the Blues don't operate like everyone else.

This is NOT THE CASE for MIkkola. Mikkola is in his prime. The Blues should have kept him, but didn't.
He looked pretty dam good last year and looks good this year. We are waiintg for younger dmen to take the reigns awesome grab gray man
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