why all the talk and interest in stars as managers?

[Galatians221jb1]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

I think it’s because the players are aggressively wanting to manage. Many assume that they are gazillionaires who never need to work again. Both Yadi and Albert have stated that baseball is all they know and they want to stay in the game. They have a work ethic and miss competing and being involved. That’s a good thing. I’m offended when I read that they are “toxic”. They are among the best players who ever played. They are not “toxic”

[BrockFloodMaris]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

I think it’s because the players are aggressively wanting to manage. Many assume that they are gazillionaires who never need to work again. Both Yadi and Albert have stated that baseball is all they know and they want to stay in the game. They have a work ethic and miss competing and being involved. That’s a good thing. I’m offended when I read that they are “toxic”. They are among the best players who ever played. They are not “toxic”

Why would Albert want to commit to being away from his Dominican tv personality wife eight months out of the year to come to STL to manage a franchise through a loss-heavy rebuild?

[DwaininAztec]

One of the reasons I think both Yadi and Albert will be good to great managers is that both spent a great deal of their time over their last few years teaching. Both Dodger and Cardinal players talked about how Albert was willing to work with them and help them with their hitting. Pitchers raved about Yadi's work with them to make them better pitchers. They both have said they want to manage, both have spent hours talking with and assisting other players to be their best. Both spent time with LaRussa, and Yadi spent time with Duncan learning about pitching and statistics. Meanwhile both have managed, not in the minors, but with international teams. That is the beginning of a managerial career.

[Bomber1]

Albert and Yadi are my hero’s. Please don’t put them in position of manager when team is in a rebuild. It’s not fair to their legacy.

Also great players are sometimes the worst coaches. Their expectations are based on their own exceptional level of talent. This can place to high of expectations on good to average players. Of course this is my opinion.

Neither Pujols nor Molina will be the Cardinals manager in 2026. That honor goes to Marmol. Bloom has already confirmed Marmol for 2026.

To my knowledge all Bloom has said about Marmol’s return is:
Nothing.
He hasn’t “confirmed Marmol”.
In fact he hasn’t said anything publicly.
When Marmol wasn’t canned on October 1 everyone just assumed Marmol would be back in 2026.
I still have hope that he’ll be sent packing after the WS ends.
All that said, I don’t want Molina nor Pujols to manage this team.

[45s]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

I think it’s because the players are aggressively wanting to manage. Many assume that they are gazillionaires who never need to work again. Both Yadi and Albert have stated that baseball is all they know and they want to stay in the game. They have a work ethic and miss competing and being involved. That’s a good thing. I’m offended when I read that they are “toxic”. They are among the best players who ever played. They are not “toxic”

Why would Albert want to commit to being away from his Dominican tv personality wife eight months out of the year to come to STL to manage a franchise through a loss-heavy rebuild?

good observation....

if he wants to manage, there are better jobs than stl

[Galatians221jb1]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

I think it’s because the players are aggressively wanting to manage. Many assume that they are gazillionaires who never need to work again. Both Yadi and Albert have stated that baseball is all they know and they want to stay in the game. They have a work ethic and miss competing and being involved. That’s a good thing. I’m offended when I read that they are “toxic”. They are among the best players who ever played. They are not “toxic”

Why would Albert want to commit to being away from his Dominican tv personality wife eight months out of the year to come to STL to manage a franchise through a loss-heavy rebuild?

good observation....

if he wants to manage, there are better jobs than stl

I read last week that the Angels had to fly into St. Louis to interview Albert because this is his home. (St. Louis)

[Midrange Jay]

Fans are starved for star players on the roster, so they are pining for some in management.

[Bob39]

No doubt Albert, Yadi, and Waino are very baseball smart but then again so are a lot of people. I mean it's baseball not nuclear engineering. A lot of being a great manager is understanding people and getting the best out of them. Maybe the compulsive obsession it takes to be a truly all time great does not mesh well with being a people person. Maybe the ego that the great ones in any field usually have does not go well with being questioned by a 28 year old reporter at KMOV about why you pulled McGreavy in the sixth.

The abilities of the three above mentioned people in playing baseball don't tell us much about what kind of managers they would be other than the fact that they would have instant credibility with the players, at least for a while. Playing and managing are two very different skill sets.

[45s]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

I think it’s because the players are aggressively wanting to manage. Many assume that they are gazillionaires who never need to work again. Both Yadi and Albert have stated that baseball is all they know and they want to stay in the game. They have a work ethic and miss competing and being involved. That’s a good thing. I’m offended when I read that they are “toxic”. They are among the best players who ever played. They are not “toxic”

Why would Albert want to commit to being away from his Dominican tv personality wife eight months out of the year to come to STL to manage a franchise through a loss-heavy rebuild?

good observation....

if he wants to manage, there are better jobs than stl

I read last week that the Angels had to fly into St. Louis to interview Albert because this is his home. (St. Louis)

Another contributor on the board says he lives in Puerto Rico

Nevertheless….I look at things from an organizational perspective… not geographical

I think there are better organizations….

STL has

Fiscally conservative owner

POBO new to the job

A minor league system in a rebuild

A poor MLB roster in flux

He can do better..

[Galatians221jb1]

No doubt Albert, Yadi, and Waino are very baseball smart but then again so are a lot of people. I mean it's baseball not nuclear engineering. A lot of being a great manager is understanding people and getting the best out of them. Maybe the compulsive obsession it takes to be a truly all time great does not mesh well with being a people person. Maybe the ego that the great ones in any field usually have does not go well with being questioned by a 28 year old reporter at KMOV about why you pulled McGreavy in the sixth.

The abilities of the three above mentioned people in playing baseball don't tell us much about what kind of managers they would be other than the fact that they would have instant credibility with the players, at least for a while. Playing and managing are two very different skill sets.

If I was a young player, I’d rather learn about hitting from Pujols than Brant Brown. If I’m a pitcher, I’d rather learn from Yadi than from what’s his name.