JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
It sure does
I had heard some rumblings but never that he was that crazed.
He got married in 2020 and already divorced a couple years ago. So it seems his behavior isn't just limited to the field and maybe he's just not a pleasant person to be around.
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
I've worked for people - civilian life and military - who were largely incompetent but were verbally abusive to people. One of them in the military ordered me to do something which alerted the enemy to our position and we started taking artillery fire. After it went sideways he denied giving the order but fortunately everybody who was there backed me up and he got in trouble.
Those are the kind of people who cause others to want to distance themselves from the abusive person. Perhaps that's why Shildt rubbed people the wrong way.
scotts-rolen wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 10:25 am
He got married in 2020 and already divorced a couple years ago. So it seems his behavior isn't just limited to the field and maybe he's just not a pleasant person to be around.
Good point. Too much smoke he’s a hot head. Most certainly not someone who should be the front man of your org s team
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
There are not exactly tons of these ML coaching jobs around. So if multiple coaches are willing to walk away because of him, it has to be over the top. I know a few retired ML players, a few who would love to get back into coaching if the opportunity arose. There is not one single one of those guys that are wallflowers that would be walked on or are so sensitive they would quit over a bit of screaming. It would have to be at the point where they just couldn't stand being in the same room with the guy ever without being tempted to beat him up. Probably the ones that said they would quit were afraid they might actually lose it with him.
Like we have seen before, sometimes people rise to their level of incompetence. We saw a similar thing play out with Steve Spagnuolo with the Rams. Great defensive coordinator, terrible head coach. Apparently terrible because he couldn't get along with his assistance coaches or even the janitors in the building. But leave him to his one area of expertise, defense, and he is great.
Boooyah wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 11:03 am
Not a MO fan but kudos to the Cardinals and MO for not letting this leak to the public. Throwing people under the bus is never a good idea.
If true then I agree but I thought the reason Shildt got fired was because he went on a local radio show after the season and said he did as good as he could given the roster he had to work with. That would fit with the narrative of a big ego demeaning other people but it seems Mozeliak was okay with the abusive personality until Shildt went after him in public.
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
It's a bit of a mixed bag of managers who get to design their own staff.
It usually takes more cache than first year managers for a few reasons. POBO's
usually like to lose their job for what they do, not what others do. New managers
may or may noy have the ability to draw good staffs. A different discussion.
Oli will get his assistant Yadi soon, it will be all better then right?
hmoss859 wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 17:03 pm
and if you didn't know there was a Shildt anger issue, you aren't doing your job. If you aren't reporting it, you are just a shill for the organization.
Wait a minute - I'm not even a baseball fan but I know that this guy was a hot head. How did people miss it?
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
JaseMan wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025 16:02 pm
Bernie 100% reported it in his podcast a few years ago
+1
He also reported that the final straw was Shildt "demanding" Mo trade for or sign the players he wanted (not a bad idea given Mo's ineptness but not something you do to your BOSS).
I wonder if TLR ever hurt anyone’s feelings or wanted his own players?? Sorry, but I’m old school…..if the manager is being an (bleep) then leave or perhaps the manager should choose his own staff and not have it dictated by the POBO. Now if Schildty is some unhinged lunatic thats a different story…..very curious what level of “abuse” we’re talking about. Everyone today is offended about everything.
TLR sure did
But unlike Shildt, TLR had built up credibility and Mo seem to be afraid to confront him.
That's why we got three "yes men" after TLR.
When one (Shildt) did push back, Mo canned him.
That’s my feeling but this “news” seems to implicate Schildty as some sort of deranged lunatic abusing all that crossed his path. I’m attempting to understand if he’s just a guy like all 70’s,80,90’s hardazzzes and today’s delicate society sees as abusive…..
lots of them were abusive
Maybe, but so many people also weren’t sissies and could take it
