ESPN: Jeff Albert to be named Mets’ lead hitting coach

[Ozziesfan41]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

Well Jeff Albert himself cited outside criticism for his decision to move on from St. Louis maybe old friend thinks he completely fabricated it himself as to the reason why he left lol

No, John Mozeliak said that. Mozeliak was absolving himself of blame because he’s lacked any semblance of accountability.

I’m interested, though - you’re claiming Jeff Albert said this himself. Can you share the quote(s) with links that you’re referring to? I’ve seen what John Denton reported with Mozeliak’s narrative spin… that Maddux had “just done it for so long and he’s looking for a change of pace”. Did you believe that, too? That Maddux just changed his mind within 4 weeks of that?

No, they both saw what was going on in the organization and decided to leave. Mozeliak was uncomfortable with the truth.

Google it yourself you’re the one who responded to me asking why do I believe it I told you he said it I read it I don’t care if you believe me or him or mo or anyone else you responded to me I said why I believe it. Don’t respond to me asking why I believe it then start saying I need to google it and share it with you that’s dumb. And if mo lied and made him look like a punk saying he couldn’t handle criticism and quit why wouldn’t he refute it if mo just outright lied and completely made it up?

I have searched. I can’t find a quote from Albert anywhere.

You claimed he said it. It sounds like you can’t support that claim. That’s not my fault.

Albert refuted what Mozeliak said BY GOING TO NEW YORK. It was never about him being too weak to take online criticism.

I don’t have to support it I told you I read it I don’t care if you believe me or don’t i don’t have anything to prove to you I didn’t ask you to post links on why you believe everyone including him lied and him going to new York refutes nothing it just proves he wanted a hitting instructor job. But I don’t care you’re arrogant and believe your opinions are facts anyway

[An Old Friend]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

We can think through this with rational intuition.

Are we really going to believe that Jeff Albert was so negatively affected by social media criticism that he left St Louis… and then did a complete 180 inside of 3 weeks going to the toughest media market in his profession?

It made no sense at the time, and makes less sense in hindsight. Albert, Maddux, and then Holliday were the canaries in the coal mine that too many people chose to ignore.

You missed the point. I’m not saying he WAS negatively affected by social media. I’m suggesting it might have been a polite reason he gave Mo, rather than telling him his whole system was (bleep).

Ok… maybe? But we can agree that wasn’t true?

[An Old Friend]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

Well Jeff Albert himself cited outside criticism for his decision to move on from St. Louis maybe old friend thinks he completely fabricated it himself as to the reason why he left lol

No, John Mozeliak said that. Mozeliak was absolving himself of blame because he’s lacked any semblance of accountability.

I’m interested, though - you’re claiming Jeff Albert said this himself. Can you share the quote(s) with links that you’re referring to? I’ve seen what John Denton reported with Mozeliak’s narrative spin… that Maddux had “just done it for so long and he’s looking for a change of pace”. Did you believe that, too? That Maddux just changed his mind within 4 weeks of that?

No, they both saw what was going on in the organization and decided to leave. Mozeliak was uncomfortable with the truth.

Google it yourself you’re the one who responded to me asking why do I believe it I told you he said it I read it I don’t care if you believe me or him or mo or anyone else you responded to me I said why I believe it. Don’t respond to me asking why I believe it then start saying I need to google it and share it with you that’s dumb. And if mo lied and made him look like a punk saying he couldn’t handle criticism and quit why wouldn’t he refute it if mo just outright lied and completely made it up?

I have searched. I can’t find a quote from Albert anywhere.

You claimed he said it. It sounds like you can’t support that claim. That’s not my fault.

Albert refuted what Mozeliak said BY GOING TO NEW YORK. It was never about him being too weak to take online criticism.

I don’t have to support it I told you I read it I don’t care if you believe me or don’t i don’t have anything to prove to you I didn’t ask you to post links on why you believe everyone including him lied and him going to new York refutes nothing it just proves he wanted a hitting instructor job. But I don’t care you’re arrogant and believe your opinions are facts anyway

Dude, YOU are the one claiming that Albert said something that there is no record of him saying. I don’t know why that’s my fault

You’d think people, especially with the benefit of hindsight, could discern and acknowledge fake news.

But some people really struggle with owning up to believing a completely fabricated narrative, even years later. That’s the choice you are making.

Here’s what Denton wrote:

” Both [Maddux and Albert] have their own separate narratives,” Mozeliak said. “In [Maddux’s] case, he’s just done it for so long and he’s looking for a change of pace. If you look at Jeff’s particular case, I think there were some levels of frustration, and he took a lot of the blame when things weren't going well, and he’s open to change. … I was prepared to offer [Albert] a contract, but before I even got that out of my mouth, he had told me he wasn’t coming back.”

Mozeliak even CALLED it a narrative… which can be fiction. That was his out, he was telling / selling a story that he thought people would mindlessly believe.

[Quincy Varnish]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

We can think through this with rational intuition.

Are we really going to believe that Jeff Albert was so negatively affected by social media criticism that he left St Louis… and then did a complete 180 inside of 3 weeks going to the toughest media market in his profession?

It made no sense at the time, and makes less sense in hindsight. Albert, Maddux, and then Holliday were the canaries in the coal mine that too many people chose to ignore.

You missed the point. I’m not saying he WAS negatively affected by social media. I’m suggesting it might have been a polite reason he gave Mo, rather than telling him his whole system was (bleep).

Ok… maybe? But we can agree that wasn’t true?

I doubt it’s true that social media had much, if anything to do with why he left. But I do see why he would get tired of being blamed for problems he did not create.

[Ozziesfan41]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

Well Jeff Albert himself cited outside criticism for his decision to move on from St. Louis maybe old friend thinks he completely fabricated it himself as to the reason why he left lol

No, John Mozeliak said that. Mozeliak was absolving himself of blame because he’s lacked any semblance of accountability.

I’m interested, though - you’re claiming Jeff Albert said this himself. Can you share the quote(s) with links that you’re referring to? I’ve seen what John Denton reported with Mozeliak’s narrative spin… that Maddux had “just done it for so long and he’s looking for a change of pace”. Did you believe that, too? That Maddux just changed his mind within 4 weeks of that?

No, they both saw what was going on in the organization and decided to leave. Mozeliak was uncomfortable with the truth.

Google it yourself you’re the one who responded to me asking why do I believe it I told you he said it I read it I don’t care if you believe me or him or mo or anyone else you responded to me I said why I believe it. Don’t respond to me asking why I believe it then start saying I need to google it and share it with you that’s dumb. And if mo lied and made him look like a punk saying he couldn’t handle criticism and quit why wouldn’t he refute it if mo just outright lied and completely made it up?

I have searched. I can’t find a quote from Albert anywhere.

You claimed he said it. It sounds like you can’t support that claim. That’s not my fault.

Albert refuted what Mozeliak said BY GOING TO NEW YORK. It was never about him being too weak to take online criticism.

I don’t have to support it I told you I read it I don’t care if you believe me or don’t i don’t have anything to prove to you I didn’t ask you to post links on why you believe everyone including him lied and him going to new York refutes nothing it just proves he wanted a hitting instructor job. But I don’t care you’re arrogant and believe your opinions are facts anyway

Dude, YOU are the one claiming that Albert said something that there is no record of him saying. I don’t know why that’s my fault

You’d think people, especially with the benefit of hindsight, could discern and acknowledge fake news.

But some people really struggle with owning up to believing a completely fabricated narrative, even years later. That’s the choice you are making.

Here’s what Denton wrote:

” Both [Maddux and Albert] have their own separate narratives,” Mozeliak said. “In [Maddux’s] case, he’s just done it for so long and he’s looking for a change of pace. If you look at Jeff’s particular case, I think there were some levels of frustration, and he took a lot of the blame when things weren't going well, and he’s open to change. … I was prepared to offer [Albert] a contract, but before I even got that out of my mouth, he had told me he wasn’t coming back.”

Mozeliak even CALLED it a narrative… which can be fiction. That was his out, he was telling / selling a story that he thought people would mindlessly believe.

A narrative is just a written or spoken account of events lol of course Albert and Maddox had their own separate narratives it’s just their reasons for leaving that proves nothing it’s just mo saying they had their own different reasons for leaning. And why did Albert take the job? He had been in the minors and was offered a promotion to the majors

[Goldfan]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

He did well in St Louis.

I have to assume you’re referencing the nonsense story that Mozeliak told suggesting he had a hard time with criticism. In reality, that was Mozeliak spinning a narrative while avoiding accountability about the building culture and development program in the organization.

Recall he also said Maddux left because he wanted to spend more time with his family… Maddux promptly took on the same role with the Rangers.

How did he do well in St Louis?

https://x.com/nuyoriican/status/1978242 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Data shows losing hitting coach Jeff Albert undermined the Cardinals' offense

https://x.com/enosarris/status/17831648 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Pulled balls in the air are the best batted ball type by outcome. Here's how St. Louis has ranked in pull% on fly balls by season, with an annotation.

2017 17th
hired Jeff Albert
2018 5th
2019 9th
2020 19th
2021 1st
2022 1st
Albert leaves
2023 8th
2024 30th

There’s a lot more, I don’t have time to spell it all out. He made a meaningful positive impact for the org and they’ve gone backwards since he left.

LMAO...pull %?! No stats given by some twatter. He left after 2022

You got nothing

It’s gotta be a strange way to live to completely ignore or dismiss that which challenges your preconceived notions.

Unless you’re playing in Fenway…..aren’t most pulled fly balls outs?

Pulled fly balls are far and away the best fly balls.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled- ... -underway/

I see they somehow differentiate between fly ball, pop up and linedrive…..do you have the % non-outs for each of these. Does it really matter the arc if one bat strike isn’t more effective at procuring a safe base.

I don’t really know what you’re asking me to explain.

Pulled fly balls do damage. Albert focused intently on swing decisions so that players would be attacking pitchers they could do the most damage with, and that showed up in batted ball data.

You don’t know what I’m asking?? I’d like the data showing that PULLed FLY BALLS somehow produce less outs……Are these pulled fly balls producing some outsized damage over all other types of hits?? If they’re mostly outs who cares. Showing that Pulled Fly Balls are increasing really mean nothing if those hits don’t produce more safe bases than any other type of batted ball

[Quincy Varnish]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

He did well in St Louis.

I have to assume you’re referencing the nonsense story that Mozeliak told suggesting he had a hard time with criticism. In reality, that was Mozeliak spinning a narrative while avoiding accountability about the building culture and development program in the organization.

Recall he also said Maddux left because he wanted to spend more time with his family… Maddux promptly took on the same role with the Rangers.

How did he do well in St Louis?

https://x.com/nuyoriican/status/1978242 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Data shows losing hitting coach Jeff Albert undermined the Cardinals' offense

https://x.com/enosarris/status/17831648 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Pulled balls in the air are the best batted ball type by outcome. Here's how St. Louis has ranked in pull% on fly balls by season, with an annotation.

2017 17th
hired Jeff Albert
2018 5th
2019 9th
2020 19th
2021 1st
2022 1st
Albert leaves
2023 8th
2024 30th

There’s a lot more, I don’t have time to spell it all out. He made a meaningful positive impact for the org and they’ve gone backwards since he left.

LMAO...pull %?! No stats given by some twatter. He left after 2022

You got nothing

It’s gotta be a strange way to live to completely ignore or dismiss that which challenges your preconceived notions.

Unless you’re playing in Fenway…..aren’t most pulled fly balls outs?

Pulled fly balls are far and away the best fly balls.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled- ... -underway/

I see they somehow differentiate between fly ball, pop up and linedrive…..do you have the % non-outs for each of these. Does it really matter the arc if one bat strike isn’t more effective at procuring a safe base.

I don’t really know what you’re asking me to explain.

Pulled fly balls do damage. Albert focused intently on swing decisions so that players would be attacking pitchers they could do the most damage with, and that showed up in batted ball data.

You don’t know what I’m asking?? I’d like the data showing that PULLed FLY BALLS somehow produce less outs……Are these pulled fly balls producing some outsized damage over all other types of hits?? If they’re mostly outs who cares. Showing that Pulled Fly Balls are increasing really mean nothing if those hits don’t produce more safe bases than any other type of batted ball

Pulled fly balls have a BABIP in the .450-.500 range. Opposite field and straightaway is .300-.350. So sayeth the lord.

[An Old Friend]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

lol +1 was going to post the same thing he will be eaten alive in New York

Why do you believe that story? It was totally fabricated.

How do you know it was completely fabricated?

Seems to me he might have actually said something like that to Mo, as a more professional alternative to calling him an incompetent (donkey) clown.

We can think through this with rational intuition.

Are we really going to believe that Jeff Albert was so negatively affected by social media criticism that he left St Louis… and then did a complete 180 inside of 3 weeks going to the toughest media market in his profession?

It made no sense at the time, and makes less sense in hindsight. Albert, Maddux, and then Holliday were the canaries in the coal mine that too many people chose to ignore.

You missed the point. I’m not saying he WAS negatively affected by social media. I’m suggesting it might have been a polite reason he gave Mo, rather than telling him his whole system was (bleep).

Ok… maybe? But we can agree that wasn’t true?

I doubt it’s true that social media had much, if anything to do with why he left. But I do see why he would get tired of being blamed for problems he did not create.

Exactly. That’s all I’m saying, that this “story” that he couldn’t handle criticism was bunk, and that was quickly proven to be true when he went to New York. So it bugs me when I see people regurgitate that nonsense storyline.

[An Old Friend]

A narrative is just a written or spoken account of events lol of course Albert and Maddox had their own separate narratives it’s just their reasons for leaving that proves nothing

His stated reasons for them leaving were quickly disproven by Maddux and Albert’s actions. Surely you can see and acknowledge that??

it’s just mo saying they had their own different reasons for leaning. And why did Albert take the job? He had been in the minors and was offered a promotion to the majors

Uh, that’s just not true. He was in the minors his first time with St Louis and went to Houston. He returned to St Louis with a major league job.

You can stop spouting nonsense anytime

[Goldfan]

If Albert couldn't handle the heat in StL, this NY thing should be fun. Hahahaha

He did well in St Louis.

I have to assume you’re referencing the nonsense story that Mozeliak told suggesting he had a hard time with criticism. In reality, that was Mozeliak spinning a narrative while avoiding accountability about the building culture and development program in the organization.

Recall he also said Maddux left because he wanted to spend more time with his family… Maddux promptly took on the same role with the Rangers.

How did he do well in St Louis?

https://x.com/nuyoriican/status/1978242 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Data shows losing hitting coach Jeff Albert undermined the Cardinals' offense

https://x.com/enosarris/status/17831648 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Pulled balls in the air are the best batted ball type by outcome. Here's how St. Louis has ranked in pull% on fly balls by season, with an annotation.

2017 17th
hired Jeff Albert
2018 5th
2019 9th
2020 19th
2021 1st
2022 1st
Albert leaves
2023 8th
2024 30th

There’s a lot more, I don’t have time to spell it all out. He made a meaningful positive impact for the org and they’ve gone backwards since he left.

LMAO...pull %?! No stats given by some twatter. He left after 2022

You got nothing

It’s gotta be a strange way to live to completely ignore or dismiss that which challenges your preconceived notions.

Unless you’re playing in Fenway…..aren’t most pulled fly balls outs?

Pulled fly balls are far and away the best fly balls.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled- ... -underway/

I see they somehow differentiate between fly ball, pop up and linedrive…..do you have the % non-outs for each of these. Does it really matter the arc if one bat strike isn’t more effective at procuring a safe base.

I don’t really know what you’re asking me to explain.

Pulled fly balls do damage. Albert focused intently on swing decisions so that players would be attacking pitchers they could do the most damage with, and that showed up in batted ball data.

You don’t know what I’m asking?? I’d like the data showing that PULLed FLY BALLS somehow produce less outs……Are these pulled fly balls producing some outsized damage over all other types of hits?? If they’re mostly outs who cares. Showing that Pulled Fly Balls are increasing really mean nothing if those hits don’t produce more safe bases than any other type of batted ball

Pulled fly balls have a BABIP in the .450-.500 range. Opposite field and straightaway is .300-.350. So sayeth the lord.

Interesting and odd that BABIP doesn’t include HR……would seem to be a vital data point for Pulled Fly balls..

[An Old Friend]

He did well in St Louis.

I have to assume you’re referencing the nonsense story that Mozeliak told suggesting he had a hard time with criticism. In reality, that was Mozeliak spinning a narrative while avoiding accountability about the building culture and development program in the organization.

Recall he also said Maddux left because he wanted to spend more time with his family… Maddux promptly took on the same role with the Rangers.

How did he do well in St Louis?

https://x.com/nuyoriican/status/1978242 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Data shows losing hitting coach Jeff Albert undermined the Cardinals' offense

https://x.com/enosarris/status/17831648 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Pulled balls in the air are the best batted ball type by outcome. Here's how St. Louis has ranked in pull% on fly balls by season, with an annotation.

2017 17th
hired Jeff Albert
2018 5th
2019 9th
2020 19th
2021 1st
2022 1st
Albert leaves
2023 8th
2024 30th

There’s a lot more, I don’t have time to spell it all out. He made a meaningful positive impact for the org and they’ve gone backwards since he left.

LMAO...pull %?! No stats given by some twatter. He left after 2022

You got nothing

It’s gotta be a strange way to live to completely ignore or dismiss that which challenges your preconceived notions.

Unless you’re playing in Fenway…..aren’t most pulled fly balls outs?

Pulled fly balls are far and away the best fly balls.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled- ... -underway/

I see they somehow differentiate between fly ball, pop up and linedrive…..do you have the % non-outs for each of these. Does it really matter the arc if one bat strike isn’t more effective at procuring a safe base.

I don’t really know what you’re asking me to explain.

Pulled fly balls do damage. Albert focused intently on swing decisions so that players would be attacking pitchers they could do the most damage with, and that showed up in batted ball data.

You don’t know what I’m asking?? I’d like the data showing that PULLed FLY BALLS somehow produce less outs……Are these pulled fly balls producing some outsized damage over all other types of hits?? If they’re mostly outs who cares. Showing that Pulled Fly Balls are increasing really mean nothing if those hits don’t produce more safe bases than any other type of batted ball

Pulled fly balls have a BABIP in the .450-.500 range. Opposite field and straightaway is .300-.350. So sayeth the lord.

Interesting and odd that BABIP doesn’t include HR……would seem to be a vital data point for Pulled Fly balls..

Did you read the articles I linked?

[Ozziesfan41]

A narrative is just a written or spoken account of events lol of course Albert and Maddox had their own separate narratives it’s just their reasons for leaving that proves nothing

His stated reasons for them leaving were quickly disproven by Maddux and Albert’s actions. Surely you can see and acknowledge that??

it’s just mo saying they had their own different reasons for leaning. And why did Albert take the job? He had been in the minors and was offered a promotion to the majors

Uh, that’s just not true. He was in the minors his first time with St Louis and went to Houston. He returned to St Louis with a major league job.

You can stop spouting nonsense anytime

You’re an idiot he was the Mets organization director of hitting for the minor leagues and received a promotion to over see the majors hitting program so stop spouting nonsense lol and his actions don’t disprove anything you’re just a clown grasping at straws and I will acknowledge you have no facts and are just making things up

[ScotchMIrish]

"Lead" hitting coach. How many hitting coaches do they have?

With the maga billions owner I wonder if each player will have his own personal hitting coach.

[HighHeet]

A narrative is just a written or spoken account of events lol of course Albert and Maddox had their own separate narratives it’s just their reasons for leaving that proves nothing

His stated reasons for them leaving were quickly disproven by Maddux and Albert’s actions. Surely you can see and acknowledge that??

it’s just mo saying they had their own different reasons for leaning. And why did Albert take the job? He had been in the minors and was offered a promotion to the majors

Uh, that’s just not true. He was in the minors his first time with St Louis and went to Houston. He returned to St Louis with a major league job.

You can stop spouting nonsense anytime

You’re an idiot he was the Mets organization director of hitting for the minor leagues and received a promotion to over see the majors hitting program so stop spouting nonsense lol and his actions don’t disprove anything you’re just a clown grasping at straws and I will acknowledge you have no facts and are just making things up

Yep.

[NYCardsFan]

He did well in St Louis.

I have to assume you’re referencing the nonsense story that Mozeliak told suggesting he had a hard time with criticism. In reality, that was Mozeliak spinning a narrative while avoiding accountability about the building culture and development program in the organization.

Recall he also said Maddux left because he wanted to spend more time with his family… Maddux promptly took on the same role with the Rangers.

How did he do well in St Louis?

https://x.com/nuyoriican/status/1978242 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Data shows losing hitting coach Jeff Albert undermined the Cardinals' offense

https://x.com/enosarris/status/17831648 ... bW4cOs6KJw

Pulled balls in the air are the best batted ball type by outcome. Here's how St. Louis has ranked in pull% on fly balls by season, with an annotation.

2017 17th
hired Jeff Albert
2018 5th
2019 9th
2020 19th
2021 1st
2022 1st
Albert leaves
2023 8th
2024 30th

There’s a lot more, I don’t have time to spell it all out. He made a meaningful positive impact for the org and they’ve gone backwards since he left.

LMAO...pull %?! No stats given by some twatter. He left after 2022

You got nothing

It’s gotta be a strange way to live to completely ignore or dismiss that which challenges your preconceived notions.

Unless you’re playing in Fenway…..aren’t most pulled fly balls outs?

Pulled fly balls are far and away the best fly balls.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled- ... -underway/

I see they somehow differentiate between fly ball, pop up and linedrive…..do you have the % non-outs for each of these. Does it really matter the arc if one bat strike isn’t more effective at procuring a safe base.

I don’t really know what you’re asking me to explain.

Pulled fly balls do damage. Albert focused intently on swing decisions so that players would be attacking pitchers they could do the most damage with, and that showed up in batted ball data.

You don’t know what I’m asking?? I’d like the data showing that PULLed FLY BALLS somehow produce less outs……Are these pulled fly balls producing some outsized damage over all other types of hits?? If they’re mostly outs who cares. Showing that Pulled Fly Balls are increasing really mean nothing if those hits don’t produce more safe bases than any other type of batted ball

Pulled fly balls have a BABIP in the .450-.500 range. Opposite field and straightaway is .300-.350. So sayeth the lord.

Interesting and odd that BABIP doesn’t include HR……would seem to be a vital data point for Pulled Fly balls..

Agreed, which is one of the reasons the linked Fangraphs article focuses on direct measures of production/damage like wOBA and wOBAcon. What remains unclear is why you chose to introduce frequency stats (like BABIP and “% non-outs”)—which don’t account for severity—into the discussion when AOF’s point (and the accompanying FG article) is about overall productivity by batted-ball type.

[An Old Friend]

A narrative is just a written or spoken account of events lol of course Albert and Maddox had their own separate narratives it’s just their reasons for leaving that proves nothing

His stated reasons for them leaving were quickly disproven by Maddux and Albert’s actions. Surely you can see and acknowledge that??

it’s just mo saying they had their own different reasons for leaning. And why did Albert take the job? He had been in the minors and was offered a promotion to the majors

Uh, that’s just not true. He was in the minors his first time with St Louis and went to Houston. He returned to St Louis with a major league job.

You can stop spouting nonsense anytime

You’re an idiot he was the Mets organization director of hitting for the minor leagues and received a promotion to over see the majors hitting program so stop spouting nonsense lol and his actions don’t disprove anything you’re just a clown grasping at straws and I will acknowledge you have no facts and are just making things up

I don’t know why you have this wrong.

Jeff Albert was most certainly in the majors with the Cardinals, not the minors. He left St Louis for a team investing properly in player development. It had nothing to do with social media criticism. Him going to New York is proof enough of that… it’s super weird that you’d continue to believe it when the truth has already hit you in the face.