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TheJackBurton
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Re: Buffalo

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netboy65 wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:01 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:00 am I'd have to imagine Lindy Ruff is on a really short leash.

Constantly changing coaches is a recipe for disaster but I believe Ruffs time coaching in the league is over.

Quite frankly, as much as we all despise him, if I'm Buffalo I'm finding out if Pete Deboer is interested. If nothing else he is a winning coach and has handled plenty of young teams.

He has a shelf life, but if you can get a few playoff runs out of him it is definitely worth it.
A few? I think at this point they’d settle for one!
Well yeah, that's true.
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The thing is with teams like Buffalo, once the losing sets in, it's hard to get out of it. It's one thing if it last 2,3,4 years. But once there's full contracts being signed and those players are leaving and never seen a playoff situation, you start getting an uneasy feeling in that locker room and losing is the norm. If you are signing up there you are signing up for a loser. There are some people that can change that around, but it's a lot harder than you would think. Because it's not your individual play you have to worry about, you have to impact those around you that have been making losing plays for multiple years.

Anyways, it's why it's scary to be in the Red Wings and Chicago's current situation. Prideful orgs with a lot of history and multiple cups. But now they are flirting the decade club of no playoffs. The Red Wings are facing that this year, and the Hawks will be approaching that unless you want to count the covid bubble as a playoff appearance.
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I was really hoping Alex Tuch would've helped turn that around, being from upstate NY and all.

And good idea on hiring Peter Deboer. He would definitely do some winning there.
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somni wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:26 am I was really hoping Alex Tuch would've helped turn that around, being from upstate NY and all.

And good idea on hiring Peter Deboer. He would definitely do some winning there.
That team doesn't lack talent. It lacks discipline, structure, cohesion, game planning, and a vision.

They need a coach that can instill all of that and I don't think Ruff can anymore.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:08 am The thing is with teams like Buffalo, once the losing sets in, it's hard to get out of it. It's one thing if it last 2,3,4 years. But once there's full contracts being signed and those players are leaving and never seen a playoff situation, you start getting an uneasy feeling in that locker room and losing is the norm. If you are signing up there you are signing up for a loser. There are some people that can change that around, but it's a lot harder than you would think. Because it's not your individual play you have to worry about, you have to impact those around you that have been making losing plays for multiple years.

Anyways, it's why it's scary to be in the Red Wings and Chicago's current situation. Prideful orgs with a lot of history and multiple cups. But now they are flirting the decade club of no playoffs. The Red Wings are facing that this year, and the Hawks will be approaching that unless you want to count the covid bubble as a playoff appearance.
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Buffalo needs a top playmaking center that is creative and makes his wingers better and can improve their garbage PP.

In recent years they were rolling out T. Thompson (shooter) and D. Cozens (grinder that might be better suited as a winger) as their top 2 centers.
Since the Cozens trade and the move of Thompson to the wing, their top 2 centers are/were J. Norris & J. Kulich.

Norris is not a playmaker and of course got hurt in the first game. He’s definitely made of glass.
Kulich is inexperienced and also seems more like a shooter than a pivot that will make his wingers better.
Thompson will probably be forced back to center with the Norris injury which will leave the Sabres very weak on the wing.
They really need Benson and Quinn to be legit top 2 line wingers.

The Sabres also started the year banged up which didn’t help their already fragile psyche.
Ruff & Adams are both gone if they don’t turn it around this year.
The disdain for Adams from the Sabres fans is off the charts.
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The compass arrow points early to another losing season. Let us all hope and pray that if this sheetshow continues they can land that coveted top 5 pick, one they haven't had since 2021 (I found that to be strange) when they picked Power. They get that top 5 pick look out world, here come the Sabres. That top 5 pick should finally convince the Pegula's to maybe move the Sabres ahead of Jessica's tennis career in terms of what they support the most. The Bills, the tennis and then the Sabres are a distant third.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:28 am
somni wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:26 am I was really hoping Alex Tuch would've helped turn that around, being from upstate NY and all.

And good idea on hiring Peter Deboer. He would definitely do some winning there.
That team doesn't lack talent. It lacks discipline, structure, cohesion, game planning, and a vision.

They need a coach that can instill all of that and I don't think Ruff can anymore.
I watch a decent amount of Buffalo games and watched the Avalanche game yesterday and this is spot on. They have talent but man alive they lack structure. Even their PP - it’s like watching 5 individuals who’ve never played a shift together before. Everyone is going in a different direction.
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Backesdraft wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:28 am
somni wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:26 am I was really hoping Alex Tuch would've helped turn that around, being from upstate NY and all.

And good idea on hiring Peter Deboer. He would definitely do some winning there.
That team doesn't lack talent. It lacks discipline, structure, cohesion, game planning, and a vision.

They need a coach that can instill all of that and I don't think Ruff can anymore.
I watch a decent amount of Buffalo games and watched the Avalanche game yesterday and this is spot on. They have talent but man alive they lack structure. Even their PP - it’s like watching 5 individuals who’ve never played a shift together before. Everyone is going in a different direction.
Yep. It's like watching a perpetual preseason game.

You have vets still continually making rookie mistakes.

They'll go on a run where everything clicks for them for 12-15 games, but that's about it.
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If there was ever a team that needed to blow it up, it would be Buffalo.

Trade everyone and ice whatever AHL team you have and go from there.
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Hooking wrote: 14 Oct 2025 13:39 pm If there was ever a team that needed to blow it up, it would be Buffalo.

Trade everyone and ice whatever AHL team you have and go from there.
It's time for Pegula to sell. You can't be that bad, that long and blow it up again. Ownership will have to enter the arena with guards.
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TAFKAP wrote: 14 Oct 2025 18:34 pm
Hooking wrote: 14 Oct 2025 13:39 pm If there was ever a team that needed to blow it up, it would be Buffalo.

Trade everyone and ice whatever AHL team you have and go from there.
It's time for Pegula to sell. You can't be that bad, that long and blow it up again. Ownership will have to enter the arena with guards.
I don't think he needs to sell, he just needs to take the team seriously and hire good qualified people.
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Perhaps the real plan is to tank for Mckenna? Pegula is already paying his NIL salary at Penn State- just put him on the payroll in Buffalo.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 14 Oct 2025 09:15 am I wonder if Army still has interest in Byram. Just a matter of time before a few guys ask out. Hard to believe they can’t figure it out because they have had the talent.
Who are you sending if this happens?
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lol TT and Dahlin 2 points and combined -5

Maybe try being the reason they don't suck.
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skilles wrote: 14 Oct 2025 21:40 pm lol TT and Dahlin 2 points and combined -5

Maybe try being the reason they don't suck.
44 goals for T and both players at a ppg last year…

Were they the reason they sucked last year or the year before?
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