BalotelliMassive wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:27 am
Nobody ever mentions that he was traded because he was arrested for a drunken brawl at a bar and then a DWI....
Who was, Shannie or Pronger?
Pronger - you didn't know that...?
No i didnt know that Prongs got arrested this was in Hartford?
Yes, he was arrested. But it was late in his first season. He wasn't traded until after his 2nd year in Hartford.
It wasn't the sole reason the Whalers traded him. They thought he was immature and wasn't developing fast enough. Plus, they had Shanahan dangled in front of them. But I don't recall the Whalers actively shopping him around.
That Whalers team was terrible and a bad place for someone like Pronger being so young.
Once he got to STL, Keenan put him on a training regiment. And as he has said, the best thing Keenan did for him was to continually play him. Plus, he was now around real pros...MacInnis, Hull, etc. as well as Gretzky in his first year.
BalotelliMassive wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:27 am
Nobody ever mentions that he was traded because he was arrested for a drunken brawl at a bar and then a DWI....
Who was this a shot at? The Blues? Pronger? Blues fans? Blues management?
Why does it have to be a shot at somebody? Hartford thought he was a lost cause so they traded him.
It just kind of felt like a snipe. I’ll stand down.
Honestly, I never knew the story about the bar brawl and DWI.
It was baggage, but it wasn't the reason they traded him. It surely didn't help with the idea that Pronger was immature and lack discipline.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
xpath wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:51 am
Shanahan (sp?) was sleeping with Craig Janey's wife. I think they eventually married
While that’s true, you’re leaving out the part about Shanny sleeping with Janney’s wife, with Janney’s approval. It wasnt like Shanny was bangin her behind Janney’s back without his knowledge. Not something id necessarily be cool with, but to each their own.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
That is 100% your opinion. People who disagree with that opinion are no less valid.
The Blues objectively gave up the more proven prospect and took on the riskier prospect.
xpath wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:51 am
Shanahan (sp?) was sleeping with Craig Janey's wife. I think they eventually married
While that’s true, you’re leaving out the part about Shanny sleeping with Janney’s wife, with Janney’s approval. It wasnt like Shanny was bangin her behind Janney’s back without his knowledge. Not something id necessarily be cool with, but to each their own.
Depending on who you believe, Janney and his wife were separated. He was traded to San Jose in March of 1995. Shanny was traded to Hartford in July of 1995. According to Wikipedia, they got married July 4th 1998. 3 kids, still married. Last I heard Janney married a Playmate had kids and still married.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
You don't even have to go back that far. Jay Bouwmeester was booed and trash talked on this forum and others a ton. Back then the likes of Karlsson were popular because they scored a ton of points. JBo was never that type but was always one of the best defensive D-men in the league. Nobody saw it until the cup run.
I am sure a lot of people who were trash talking will never admit it but JBo was not liked very much until 2019.
xpath wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:51 am
Shanahan (sp?) was sleeping with Craig Janey's wife. I think they eventually married
While that’s true, you’re leaving out the part about Shanny sleeping with Janney’s wife, with Janney’s approval. It wasnt like Shanny was bangin her behind Janney’s back without his knowledge. Not something id necessarily be cool with, but to each their own.
Since when has the story ever been that he had Janney’s approval? The rumor all around town for years was that Twist roughed him up when it all came out. Both Shanny and Janney got moved in the aftermath.
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leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
That is 100% your opinion. People who disagree with that opinion are no less valid.
The Blues objectively gave up the more proven prospect and took on the riskier prospect.
While "objectively" true, people are acting as if we traded a Calder Trophy winner for a project.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
xpath wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 10:51 am
Shanahan (sp?) was sleeping with Craig Janey's wife. I think they eventually married
While that’s true, you’re leaving out the part about Shanny sleeping with Janney’s wife, with Janney’s approval. It wasnt like Shanny was bangin her behind Janney’s back without his knowledge. Not something id necessarily be cool with, but to each their own.
Since when has the story ever been that he had Janney’s approval? The rumor all around town for years was that Twist roughed him up when it all came out. Both Shanny and Janney got moved in the aftermath.
The bar fight with Twist and Shanny wasnt rumored, it was true, but ive heard from a couple reliable people that it was known and Janney even joined in a time or 3 .
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
That is 100% your opinion. People who disagree with that opinion are no less valid.
The Blues objectively gave up the more proven prospect and took on the riskier prospect.
He scored 24 goals in 97 games with the Blues. Like I said, a good forward. Had we traded Kyrou, Parayko, Holloway or Binnington, then yes, I'd say we paid a premium. I like Zach, and hope he does well. But those already putting a state of him outside Bell Centre and a bust of him in the HHOF seem to have a much higher opinion of him than most.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
How do you know?
The way Bolduc is going he might win the Richard. Mailloux would be in the ahl now except that Army has to play him for obvious reasons. It's not going well...
Win the Richard? Jesus dude, do you even hear yourself? That's the dumbest [fork]ing thing I've read in... well, since the last comment you made.
Bolduc is a good forward. We know that from the very limited time last year (except for the playoffs) where he scored 19 goals. But now he's going to lead the league in goals? You wankers will make up any bull[shirt] to cry about Army.
That's a bit of a harsh reaction. While highly unlikely, its not outside the realm of possibilty that Bolduc continues to develop and becomes a Shanahan type player and/or potentially win a scoring award. I'm happy enough to have Mailloux, but the cost is not something to just be forgotten. It's a risk that we all obviously hope works out and It's clearly going to take some time for that to play out.
How can we forget about the cost when the small-minded choose to remind us every time Bolduc takes a dump or wins a hand of Uno? Yes, it was a risk, one given what we know about our current roster and prospects who may be on the team in the next couple of years, was one worth taking. Some fans want us to never include good players in a trade and yet somehow acquire good players. Or they want us to acquire good players for nothing. Neither of those typically happen in the real world (offer sheets aside). You have to give to get.
leedog68 wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 12:02 pm
Actually, my purpose for starting this was so people might be a little patient with Mailoux.
I don't think there is anyone that does not understand this or was expecting him to be an all star immediately. People are mad at the cost to acquire him.
Fortunately, they didn't pay a premium to get LM. Traded a good forward for a good RHD.
That is 100% your opinion. People who disagree with that opinion are no less valid.
The Blues objectively gave up the more proven prospect and took on the riskier prospect.
Yep the Blues said something to the effect that Bolduc didnt fit into their top 2 lines and the Blues have Snuggerud and Neighbours. Who "won" the trade remains to be seen its going to take some time to determine
.