Throwing Pribula under the bus ???

[winonsports]

I can only imagine this group of whiners with Arch Manning

It's difficult to find a reason to even think of imagining that

[onemizzou]

This board despises Mizzou QB's - remember the abuse Brady Cook received? I guess Chase Daniel wasn't up to the minimum either?

This is Mizzou - they don't get the pick of the litter, like the bluebloods. I can only imagine this group of whiners with Arch Manning (until yesterday).

With Chase Daniel at QB yesterday, this would almost certainly have been a W. I don't recall too many having issues with Chase.

Chase had confidence in himself as did the coaching staff. This staff AND Beau seem to be losing confidence. They need to be more aggressive not less. Suffer through some struggles while the defense pulls you through.

The "staff' did not make the correct evaluation of what Prib was capable of on that day.

They asked him to do what he wasn't going to get done Saturday.

Missouri could well have won that game but not the way it was called.

It wasn't Pribula's deficiencies that were the problem or was the coaching staff's. The passing game plan was pathetic at best. They're were no slants or quick outs to get some rhythm going. They had a good few plays scripted that got a touchdown but the rest of the way was not conducive to creating a trust in the passing game against their defense. Then there is the problem is ONLY running to the right side. The lack of diversity in the run game caused it to lose effectiveness.

This is not on Pribula, it's on the staff, 100%.

[winonsports]

It wasn't Pribula's deficiencies that were the problem or was the coaching staff's.

Exactly. There's no reason to play the blame game, when Mizzou took Alabama to the limit.

Pribula had as many yards as Simpson, and the team had nearly as many as the Tide in far fewer plays.

[Rvrartst]

It's hilarious how you people think this is a video game, or sandlot football where you huddle up, tell everybody to go deep, and then look around to find whoever is open. Football consists of called plays. There is always a primary receiver. The quarterback knows where that primary receiver is supposed to go and where to make the pass. If it breaks down, THEN the quarterback has to look for other options. Not this stupid "go through his progressions". That was some talking head on NFL games that came up with that one. There's the primary receiver, and then maybe a safety valve running back or tight end that stops blocking and moves to where an open area is expected to be. MOST quarterbacks don't depend upon getting five seconds in the pocket to survey the whole field and find somebody open. They get maybe 3 seconds at most before all those huge bodies start crowding them, blocking off sight lanes, obscuring large areas of the field. Then they need to start moving to get the sight lines to find open receivers. Just think of how hard it is to see the whole field when you're surrounded by guys bigger and taller than you are.

If there is a failure in all this, it's probably the offensive coordinator. He's up in the booth and can see the whole field. He should be able to see that, hey, Johnson was open on that play, so let's put it in our back pocket and later on call Johnson's number out of a similar formation and routes. If receivers are getting open frequently deeper than the plays have been calling for, then yeah, start dialing up some plays to hit those receivers. Why was this not done, if receivers were getting open? Could it be because the coaching staff doesn't have confidence Pribula can make the passes? If so, then you aren't going to see things change, and Mizzou's ceiling goes down considerably.

It takes a truly elite quarterback to routinely find open receivers when the play breaks down, or to see an open receiver before he has to commit to making the called play and switch gears to get him the ball. Most college qbs can't do it, and aren't really expected to do it consistently.

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It's hilarious how you people think this is a video game, or sandlot football where you huddle up, tell everybody to go deep, and then look around to find whoever is open. Football consists of called plays. There is always a primary receiver. The quarterback knows where that primary receiver is supposed to go and where to make the pass. If it breaks down, THEN the quarterback has to look for other options. Not this stupid "go through his progressions". That was some talking head on NFL games that came up with that one. There's the primary receiver, and then maybe a safety valve running back or tight end that stops blocking and moves to where an open area is expected to be. MOST quarterbacks don't depend upon getting five seconds in the pocket to survey the whole field and find somebody open. They get maybe 3 seconds at most before all those huge bodies start crowding them, blocking off sight lanes, obscuring large areas of the field. Then they need to start moving to get the sight lines to find open receivers. Just think of how hard it is to see the whole field when you're surrounded by guys bigger and taller than you are.

If there is a failure in all this, it's probably the offensive coordinator. He's up in the booth and can see the whole field. He should be able to see that, hey, Johnson was open on that play, so let's put it in our back pocket and later on call Johnson's number out of a similar formation and routes. If receivers are getting open frequently deeper than the plays have been calling for, then yeah, start dialing up some plays to hit those receivers. Why was this not done, if receivers were getting open? Could it be because the coaching staff doesn't have confidence Pribula can make the passes? If so, then you aren't going to see things change, and Mizzou's ceiling goes down considerably.

It takes a truly elite quarterback to routinely find open receivers when the play breaks down, or to see an open receiver before he has to commit to making the called play and switch gears to get him the ball. Most college qbs can't do it, and aren't really expected to do it consistently.

I see QBs pro and college scan the field in a few seconds all the time if they need to and have time to throw. The good ones can do that. The average ones at times. The bad ones almost never. The good ones also know how to find space in the pocket without bailing out. Pribula has been bailing out far too much. And Drink talked about that after the UMass game. So the Bama game comes along, and Pribula is doing the same thing. And his throwing on the run sucks. Elway he is not. If he's going to roll out, he had better try to set his feet before throwing.

[Kenny Boy]

You can see Johnson’s and Coleman’s frustrations growing by the week. It matches the fans. It’s been weeks since they’ve taken shots down the field. As soon as there is the least little bit of pressure, Pribula leaves the pocket and starts to improvise, often reducing his options and missing open receivers. The bootleg pass has become predictable, coming at least once a series. On Mizzou’s first TD, Johnson was running wide open down the seam, but Pribula went to the more difficult target, Norfleet. Not only did Norfleet make a great catch, saving Pribula, but then by sheer effort turned it into a TD.

Now, Pribula was awesome running the ball yesterday. That Bama defender is STILL looking for his jock. However, he’s the QB and not a running back. Gone are the days you can destroy Alabama throwing 2 passes (love you, Terry McMillian). You have to be able to toss the rock and as well as pound it. Drinkwitz came to MU with the rep of being a QB whisperer. It’s time we started to see it.

To be fair, the MU O-Lone is MUCH better when they run versus when they pass. Beau had very little time yesterday. That said, he was still awful.

[Kenny Boy]

You can see Johnson’s and Coleman’s frustrations growing by the week. It matches the fans. It’s been weeks since they’ve taken shots down the field. As soon as there is the least little bit of pressure, Pribula leaves the pocket and starts to improvise, often reducing his options and missing open receivers. The bootleg pass has become predictable, coming at least once a series. On Mizzou’s first TD, Johnson was running wide open down the seam, but Pribula went to the more difficult target, Norfleet. Not only did Norfleet make a great catch, saving Pribula, but then by sheer effort turned it into a TD.

Now, Pribula was awesome running the ball yesterday. That Bama defender is STILL looking for his jock. However, he’s the QB and not a running back. Gone are the days you can destroy Alabama throwing 2 passes (love you, Terry McMillian). You have to be able to toss the rock and as well as pound it. Drinkwitz came to MU with the rep of being a QB whisperer. It’s time we started to see it.

To be fair, the MU O-Line is MUCH better when they run versus when they pass. Beau had very little time yesterday. That said, he was still awful.

[jcgmoi]

To be fair, the MU O-Lone is MUCH better when they run versus when they pass.

Agreed, so why was Missouri so quick to get away from running the ball? Hardy got just 12 carries, Roberts 5. Leaning on the run more could have gone a long way towards keeping the Alabama offense off the field and made Pribula's life easier when they did throw.

[Bluesbacker]

Marquis Johnson, WR wearing number 2 for those who may not know, is not the kind of teammate I would want on my team. We all know what it means to throw someone under the bus....blaming someone else in an attempt to save your own butt from ridicule or worse.

When a team is winning, many mistakes can be overlooked....it's easy not to throw someone under the bus when you get a W. But when you suffer a tough loss, you might be tempted to point your finger at someone else, but the whole concept of "team" means you can't do it. For example, rarely do you see a HC blame a particular player after a tough loss, they often say I or we didn't do a good enough job getting our team prepared, or we didn't coach good enough, etc....

The same is true on the field, sometimes a player will get upset if he was wide open and didn't get the ball. But, by the time they huddle up again the "slight" is resolved and we often see the player get a few more looks later on. Sometimes the QB gets upset at a player for running a poor route, or not lining up correctly, or dropping a pass. Often you hear the QB say in post-game comments I didn't play good enough, even if he played pretty good.

At least three times, possibly four, (I'm hoping to re-watch the game) #2 threw a literal conniption fit on the field when he wasn't targeted and/or Pribula threw a bad ball his way. I guess the emotion of the game can get to ya once, but twice, three times, maybe four...leaving you yelling and screaming at your own QB and throwing your hands up in the air and jumping up and down like a (bleep). For guy who's not contributing a whole lot this year, (outside of the SC win) throwing your QB "under the bus" during the game is not the way to get more looks.

I would need to re-watch the game, but on Pribula's two INT wherein he appears to of locked on a receiver running a seam route, the ball was already in the air before Johnson's defender left him to pursue towards where the ball was thrown. Johnson is wide open on the sideline both times, but the decision to throw had already been made by Pribula and on the game ender anyways the ball was already in the air. And Pribula's throw towards him on the opposite sideline, when 'Bama almost intercepted the ball again, was obviously thrown too high but Johnson had barely hit the ground before he started his histrionics throwing his arms in the air and mean-mugging Pribula.

There's no place for that sort of reaction on the filed directed at another teammate, and I hope Drink addresses it in the locker room....if Johnson is a needed talent on the team, given the loss of talent at that position last year, then he better grow up and start acting like a team player. Who knows, he might get a few more targets and start to get some positive attention from NFL scouts. Clearly, he's not getting attention from Pribula on the field....

I don’t know what makes you think Drink will address this issue because this team has been totally undisciplined during Drinks tenure. Look at all the times Burden needed to kick in the (donkey) and not once did Drink hold him accountable.

[winonsports]

Just ignore him people.

Thanks

I don't think many will put stock in what somebody named Bluesbacker, making his maiden appearance in Mizzou Talk, has to say

[HoopsGuruII]

After further review, the ruling on the field stands, "Pribula should be under the bus!"

[winonsports]

Just ignore him people.

Thanks

It's easy to ignore the "throw the baby out with the bath water" crowd.

[11WSChamps]

It wasn't Pribula's deficiencies that were the problem or was the coaching staff's.

Exactly. There's no reason to play the blame game, when Mizzou took Alabama to the limit.

Pribula had as many yards as Simpson, and the team had nearly as many as the Tide in far fewer plays.

Your ignorance is only second to your stupidity.

Not pointing fingers just talking facts.

Two critical INTs and 1 for 10 on third down and only
had the ball 21 minutes.

Their QB made big plays when needed ours didn't.

If you’re going to be comparing QB numbers as you continue to do best to use context and not look like an amateur just spouting yardage.

[mdkieffer]

Pribula;s biggest weakness is that he has trouble throwing when on the run.

He got exposed on this against a team like Alabama,

Something he needs to work on.

[mdkieffer]

It wasn't Pribula's deficiencies that were the problem or was the coaching staff's.

Exactly. There's no reason to play the blame game, when Mizzou took Alabama to the limit.

Pribula had as many yards as Simpson, and the team had nearly as many as the Tide in far fewer plays.

Your ignorance is only second to your stupidity.

Not pointing fingers just talking facts.

Two critical INTs and 1 for 10 on third down and only
had the ball 21 minutes.

Their QB made big plays when needed ours didn't.

If you’re going to be comparing QB numbers as you continue to do best to use context and not look like an amateur just spouting yardage.

the ttotal offensive yards were only off by a couple of yards

[11WSChamps]

It wasn't Pribula's deficiencies that were the problem or was the coaching staff's.

Exactly. There's no reason to play the blame game, when Mizzou took Alabama to the limit.

Pribula had as many yards as Simpson, and the team had nearly as many as the Tide in far fewer plays.

Your ignorance is only second to your stupidity.

Not pointing fingers just talking facts.

Two critical INTs and 1 for 10 on third down and only
had the ball 21 minutes.

Their QB made big plays when needed ours didn't.

If you’re going to be comparing QB numbers as you continue to do best to use context and not look like an amateur just spouting yardage.

the ttotal offensive yards were only off by a couple of yards

That's not the point.

The point is making big plays when needed.

That's how games are won and lost.