GDT Game 1 MIN @ BLUES

[sdaltons]

Idk the team didn't even play THAT bad, at least for the first two periods. Leading in shots, hits, faceoffs, etc.

Just had a couple dumb bounces go the wrong way.

That said, I didn't get to watch the 3rd closely so it may have gone down hill then.

There were 1-2 I would have liked Binny to have but also let's not put every one of our shots right into the goalie's chest.

Anyway, disappointed with the result, but far from feeling any doom and gloom just yet.

[Natl20]

Idk the team didn't even play THAT bad, at least for the first two periods. Leading in shots, hits, faceoffs, etc.

Just had a couple dumb bounces go the wrong way.

That said, I didn't get to watch the 3rd closely so it may have gone down hill then.

There were 1-2 I would have liked Binny to have but also let's not put every one of our shots right into the goalie's chest.

Anyway, disappointed with the result, but far from feeling any doom and gloom just yet.

100% agree, be diff if we were just dominated but we werent. Also ive never seen more shots into a goalies stomach, my kids 8U team does better at picking corners and they play on nets a quarter of the size of NHL nets.

[dhsux]

ah.. the knee jerk reactions after ONE game.. predictable

I don't think its knee jerk at all.

First of all I don't even see anyone saying anything crazy but yes game 1 carries some weight.

We had an off season to get geared up and improve as A team and on an individual level. While its not the end all of everything I personally think how you come out in game 1 is important and it was not good nor was I a big fan of our preseason performance.

I would feel different about that if we had went deep in the playoffs etc. but IMO I team where we are at we should be firing pretty hard in the preseason and to start the NHL season and I didn't see either of those things.

As far as Mailloux, I'm good I am good with letting him develop and I'm glad we have him but you don't trade Bolduc for that IMO. Nor do I think anyone defending it would have made that move.

But yes you do make that trade if you think Mailloux has top 4 potential.

Bolduc does not bring a proven top 4 RHD.

[hotrivets]

It was disappointing that on opening night in front of their fans they could not mount an effort to overcome the first couple of goals. It's almost like players have to learn the same lessons at the beginning of each season. That makes me wonder how good the coaching was during the preseason.

But the next few games will give us a much better feel. Not crazy about the 3:00 start in Calgary but it's great to get the 6:30 start in Vancouver on Columbus Day.

[seattleblue]

Mailloux cannot be this bad, can he? That was as bad as I have seen a defender play in the NHL in some time, that was not even AHL worthy.

[John Cocktoastin]

Of note...the Blues missed the net 17 times.

No telling how many pucks nailed their goalie right in the chest.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Mailloux cannot be this bad, can he? That was as bad as I have seen a defender play in the NHL in some time, that was not even AHL worthy.

No. He's not. But he has played less than 10 NHL games. The entire team seemed jittery to start the game. The early penalty and falling behind seemed to make the whole building feel tense. Let's see how the next stretch of games go ... especially for the young guys and guys who are new to the team.

[LGB73]

Mailloux cannot be this bad, can he? That was as bad as I have seen a defender play in the NHL in some time, that was not even AHL worthy.

Hope not but I'm chalking it up to opening night and the team seeming a little off. When the trade happened, it was touted that this kid was an AHL all-star and ready to make the jump to NHL. If we really were buying a lottery ticket and hoping he develops, then we paid way too much for him. That being said they need to trot him out there 70+ games and coach him.

If he's not ready for the NHL, then we're stupid because Bolduc put up 14g in his last 30 regular season games with freaking Sunny as his C. The lightbulb had gone off and he looks to be picking right back up from there. You might want to sell that asset for some reason but you don't give it away for a lottery ticket hoping it pays off.

[skilles]

ah.. the knee jerk reactions after ONE game.. predictable

I don't think its knee jerk at all.

First of all I don't even see anyone saying anything crazy but yes game 1 carries some weight.

We had an off season to get geared up and improve as A team and on an individual level. While its not the end all of everything I personally think how you come out in game 1 is important and it was not good nor was I a big fan of our preseason performance.

I would feel different about that if we had went deep in the playoffs etc. but IMO I team where we are at we should be firing pretty hard in the preseason and to start the NHL season and I didn't see either of those things.

As far as Mailloux, I'm good I am good with letting him develop and I'm glad we have him but you don't trade Bolduc for that IMO. Nor do I think anyone defending it would have made that move.

But yes you do make that trade if you think Mailloux has top 4 potential.

Bolduc does not bring a proven top 4 RHD.

I'd be shocked if you agreed with that trade before it happened.

[Cahokanut]

This was my first look at the team.
The excitement, hope and belief that was being beat into me and everyone around here from all that saw. Was verified. For what it is.
To much negative that means little after game one.
So heres. Some of the positive.

•Kyrou is our best player.
•Thomas does his job. No matter his title.
•Mailoux wont have go through needed or any of that bull[shirt] unneeded, 'More Seasoning, Others need.
and finally.
•Without Bolduc to yell at. Coach did none of that.
All were positive and things to build on.

[MiamiLaw]

Good lord…it’s one game. Let’s see where they are at after 10 games. Some of you clowns already complaining about Mailloux….freaking comical. He was far from the biggest issue last night and it’s gonna take him some time.
Bolduc sealed his fate against Winnipeg in the playoffs, he was terrible. Blues saw something they didn’t like and decided they could move on from him. It’s going to take Mailloux a couple of years to get him playing like he did in the AHL.
We had chances, we just couldn’t finish. When Justin Faulk and Nathan Walker are your two best players …that’s gonna make for a long night.
Parayko was terrible, nothing from Thomas, Fowler and Buch not good. Not sure if Neighbours even realized this game counted because he brought nothing to the table last night.

Yea the whole team sucked, but you’re insane if you don’t understand why the guy that was the center of the biggest offseason move is going to be under a microscope. It wasn’t that it was all Mailloux’s fault, it was that he barely looked NHL caliber.

Years? We traded Bolduc for a guy that might be serviceable years from now? You just don’t do that…that’s a guy you get for a 2nd or an ok-ish prospect.

Next season Bolduc will get an extension and could be a big one if he nets more than 25 this year. The Blues are going to extend both Holloway and Broberg the Blues wont be in cap trouble at that point they will use a prospect or two to fill some gaps but they simply didnt have space for Bolduc.

The Blues feel like they already have their top 4 wingers set they like Snuggerud more than Bolduc so they dealt Bolduc. Whether or not the trade was good for the Blues as it relates to Mailloux will not be known soon which of course doesnt mesh with sports fan forum characteristics.

Needing to find ways to sign good players is a good thing. It isn't a reason you take a huge gamble way prematurely. The Blues paid a premium for LM. Just because the Blues had a glut of wingers doesn't mean you rush to trade him or that it has to be for LM in particular. I hated it when it happened and, if it is even possible, I hate it more today after seeing him play.

[Pierre McGuire]

Good lord…it’s one game. Let’s see where they are at after 10 games. Some of you clowns already complaining about Mailloux….freaking comical. He was far from the biggest issue last night and it’s gonna take him some time.
Bolduc sealed his fate against Winnipeg in the playoffs, he was terrible. Blues saw something they didn’t like and decided they could move on from him. It’s going to take Mailloux a couple of years to get him playing like he did in the AHL.
We had chances, we just couldn’t finish. When Justin Faulk and Nathan Walker are your two best players …that’s gonna make for a long night.
Parayko was terrible, nothing from Thomas, Fowler and Buch not good. Not sure if Neighbours even realized this game counted because he brought nothing to the table last night.

Yea the whole team sucked, but you’re insane if you don’t understand why the guy that was the center of the biggest offseason move is going to be under a microscope. It wasn’t that it was all Mailloux’s fault, it was that he barely looked NHL caliber.

Years? We traded Bolduc for a guy that might be serviceable years from now? You just don’t do that…that’s a guy you get for a 2nd or an ok-ish prospect.

Next season Bolduc will get an extension and could be a big one if he nets more than 25 this year. The Blues are going to extend both Holloway and Broberg the Blues wont be in cap trouble at that point they will use a prospect or two to fill some gaps but they simply didnt have space for Bolduc.

The Blues feel like they already have their top 4 wingers set they like Snuggerud more than Bolduc so they dealt Bolduc. Whether or not the trade was good for the Blues as it relates to Mailloux will not be known soon which of course doesnt mesh with sports fan forum characteristics.

Needing to find ways to sign good players is a good thing. It isn't a reason you take a huge gamble way prematurely. The Blues paid a premium for LM. Just because the Blues had a glut of wingers doesn't mean you rush to trade him or that it has to be for LM in particular. I hated it when it happened and, if it is even possible, I hate it more today after seeing him play.

I never felt this move was strictly because they wanted to add a young dman but sure that’s part of it. I believe that LM was definitely a target based on teams that might have a young dman available…you can’t argue the fact that he is an AHL all star dman.
I still believe there is more to the story. I remember saying at least twice here during the Winnipeg series that Bolduc should have been benched for his play. Something happened that accelerated Bolduc’s exit…just my gut feeling.

[MiamiLaw]

Good lord…it’s one game. Let’s see where they are at after 10 games. Some of you clowns already complaining about Mailloux….freaking comical. He was far from the biggest issue last night and it’s gonna take him some time.
Bolduc sealed his fate against Winnipeg in the playoffs, he was terrible. Blues saw something they didn’t like and decided they could move on from him. It’s going to take Mailloux a couple of years to get him playing like he did in the AHL.
We had chances, we just couldn’t finish. When Justin Faulk and Nathan Walker are your two best players …that’s gonna make for a long night.
Parayko was terrible, nothing from Thomas, Fowler and Buch not good. Not sure if Neighbours even realized this game counted because he brought nothing to the table last night.

Yea the whole team sucked, but you’re insane if you don’t understand why the guy that was the center of the biggest offseason move is going to be under a microscope. It wasn’t that it was all Mailloux’s fault, it was that he barely looked NHL caliber.

Years? We traded Bolduc for a guy that might be serviceable years from now? You just don’t do that…that’s a guy you get for a 2nd or an ok-ish prospect.

Next season Bolduc will get an extension and could be a big one if he nets more than 25 this year. The Blues are going to extend both Holloway and Broberg the Blues wont be in cap trouble at that point they will use a prospect or two to fill some gaps but they simply didnt have space for Bolduc.

The Blues feel like they already have their top 4 wingers set they like Snuggerud more than Bolduc so they dealt Bolduc. Whether or not the trade was good for the Blues as it relates to Mailloux will not be known soon which of course doesnt mesh with sports fan forum characteristics.

Needing to find ways to sign good players is a good thing. It isn't a reason you take a huge gamble way prematurely. The Blues paid a premium for LM. Just because the Blues had a glut of wingers doesn't mean you rush to trade him or that it has to be for LM in particular. I hated it when it happened and, if it is even possible, I hate it more today after seeing him play.

I never felt this move was strictly because they wanted to add a young dman but sure that’s part of it. I believe that LM was definitely a target based on teams that might have a young dman available…you can’t argue the fact that he is an AHL all star dman.
I still believe there is more to the story. I remember saying at least twice here during the Winnipeg series that Bolduc should have been benched for his play. Something happened that accelerated Bolduc’s exit…just my gut feeling.

Yea he wasn't great in the playoffs, but plenty of players have taken time to adapt. I can't imagine that's the only reason so it would not surprise me if you're right about something behind the scenes.

And yes, I think Army said that LM was a player they had liked in that draft even but had stayed away because of the baggage.

[Harry York 37]

ah.. the knee jerk reactions after ONE game.. predictable

One of the great things about sports is you get to see how people respond to adversity. Coaches, players, fans. It's fun to sit back and grab some popcorn. Good entertainment.

The two best posts in this excruciating thread.

[dhsux]

ah.. the knee jerk reactions after ONE game.. predictable

I don't think its knee jerk at all.

First of all I don't even see anyone saying anything crazy but yes game 1 carries some weight.

We had an off season to get geared up and improve as A team and on an individual level. While its not the end all of everything I personally think how you come out in game 1 is important and it was not good nor was I a big fan of our preseason performance.

I would feel different about that if we had went deep in the playoffs etc. but IMO I team where we are at we should be firing pretty hard in the preseason and to start the NHL season and I didn't see either of those things.

As far as Mailloux, I'm good I am good with letting him develop and I'm glad we have him but you don't trade Bolduc for that IMO. Nor do I think anyone defending it would have made that move.

But yes you do make that trade if you think Mailloux has top 4 potential.

Bolduc does not bring a proven top 4 RHD.

I'd be shocked if you agreed with that trade before it happened.

Well I was shocked when it happened if that helps with my answer. But I was not in the room.

And that's where the decision was made. As has been noted, the weight of surplus and need was critical and all part of the decision process.

You said you are glad to have him so I think we are in agreement there. He's raw on his Blue line responsibilities and it can hopefully get addressed with coaching and game experience.

[2forDiving]

A lot are forgetting that Bolduc was largely garbage after the first 20 games last year. I don’t believe his first goal came until after the coaching change. I’m not any more concerned that Mailloux is a failure after one game than I was Boldic after 20 last season.