Exactly...he's smiling and the ball is jumping off the bat...hopefully it will help his confidence and translate to in game....they way they handled him definitely had to play on his mental state...obviously it's on him to produce at the plate and hopefully he will...
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You can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
Re: Walker working out at Driveline
The only question is....why wasn't he at Driveline last offseason? Or the year before?billybaseball wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 15:06 pm I know people want to roll your eyes when these pop up but this is very notable. People should not discount Driveline. The Dodgers and Red Sox both use them as their offseason training. The Dodgers especially use them almost exclusively for their teams offseason training. Ohtani, Betts and Muncy go every offseason.
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Nootbar worked with Driveline in 2020 during the covid lockdown. He doesn't make it to the majors leagues at all without the swing changes from Driveline. He went from a .712 OPS in 2019 to a .900 OPS in 2021.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Noot is 28 yrs old, we’ve been waiting on Noot to “bust out” since he was 23An Old Friend wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 06:40 amYou can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
.239…….739OPS
.228…….788
.261……..784
.244………758
And when you finally plays as CLOSE to a FULL season as he ever has in ‘25 135g
Drumroll please
.234…….686
But some how his struggles have been because of injuries???? This doesn’t play
He had extended periods of being BAD in ‘25 when he was healthy.
Again, he’s 28. This is a flameout like TO, Bader, Carlson
This odd fascination with metrics that obviously have NOTHING to do productive MLB stats. Does it look like his exit velocity or bat speed helped his stats.
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Shows harder hit outs. YayAn Old Friend wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 06:40 amYou can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
You know who else hits the ball hard, JW. How's that working out?
Ignore his failing WAR and OPS+. Make excuses that he's injured. Or is it, he's injury prone?
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
And he's gotten worse every year. Fantastic! I think he also did it last off-season too. There were videos. How's that working out? Below league average hitterbillybaseball wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 07:33 amNootbar worked with Driveline in 2020 during the covid lockdown. He doesn't make it to the majors leagues at all without the swing changes from Driveline. He went from a .712 OPS in 2019 to a .900 OPS in 2021.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
AOF must be a Driveline investor…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:09 amShows harder hit outs. YayAn Old Friend wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 06:40 amYou can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
You know who else hits the ball hard, JW. How's that working out?
Ignore his failing WAR and OPS+. Make excuses that he's injured. Or is it, he's injury prone?


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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
I love that players go elsewhere in the off-season to try and build their talent, just not sure that it does much, as well as it truly depends on the player.Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:12 amAOF must be a Driveline investor…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:09 amShows harder hit outs. YayAn Old Friend wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 06:40 amYou can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
You know who else hits the ball hard, JW. How's that working out?
Ignore his failing WAR and OPS+. Make excuses that he's injured. Or is it, he's injury prone?![]()
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Only so much to work with, and some learn by different methods
Re: Walker working out at Driveline
I think you are right that he doesn't listen- to these coaches.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:54 pm "Real adjustments have to be made, physically and approach-wise, for him to have success,” Marmol said. “At the end of the day, all you can do is — with conviction — show the player what needs to take place, and then it’s up to the player to take hold of that and allow it to transfer into the game.”
“At some point in time he’s going to have to devote more focus on preparation,” Brown said. “One thing with (Walker) is we’ve played a massive game of tennis, going back and forth with what he feels like he needs to do versus what he really needs to do. … But for me, there’s a really easy way out. He might have to be a little bit more uncomfortable to be able to achieve what we wanted to achieve.”
Walker won’t push back against that notion
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Is this J. Walk's first time to visit?
If so, then it took C. Bloom all of a week to send him there while Mo did.
D. Gould reporting aside I hope Bloom keeps him at Memphis and resist calling him up until September.
And only then if he's showing marked improvement in pitch recognition, is laying off those sweeping curves/sliders and driving the ball in the air more than he's killing gophers w/ground balls.
If so, then it took C. Bloom all of a week to send him there while Mo did.

D. Gould reporting aside I hope Bloom keeps him at Memphis and resist calling him up until September.
And only then if he's showing marked improvement in pitch recognition, is laying off those sweeping curves/sliders and driving the ball in the air more than he's killing gophers w/ground balls.
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:11 amAnd he's gotten worse every year. Fantastic! I think he also did it last off-season too. There were videos. How's that working out? Below league average hitterbillybaseball wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 07:33 amNootbar worked with Driveline in 2020 during the covid lockdown. He doesn't make it to the majors leagues at all without the swing changes from Driveline. He went from a .712 OPS in 2019 to a .900 OPS in 2021.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
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And that .900/2021 OPS was at Memphis.
After getting called up in 2021 he had a .739 OPS against ML pitching where it matters.
But as we've seen by numbers that have been posted, he's a Statcast wonder and many POBO/GM's around MLB love those metrics so he'll have a solid trade market.
Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Swinging the bat really hard and corresponding exit velocity, when he hits the ball, is not JW’s issuerockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:42 am Is this J. Walk's first time to visit?
If so, then it took C. Bloom all of a week to send him there while Mo did.![]()
D. Gould reporting aside I hope Bloom keeps him at Memphis and resist calling him up until September.
And only then if he's showing marked improvement in pitch recognition, is laying off those sweeping curves/sliders and driving the ball in the air more than he's killing gophers w/ground balls.
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Why does it bother you that players work to improve? I honestly don’t know why it annoys you so much.Goldfan wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:12 amAOF must be a Driveline investor…..scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:09 amShows harder hit outs. YayAn Old Friend wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 06:40 amYou can pretend that hitting the ball harder more frequently is bad if you want. People make choices to ignore facts every day.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:37 pmHis OPS+ has dropped every year to where he's now at 95. Just like his WAR...down from 3.3 to a measly 1.3!An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 22:12 pmYou have a weird obsession with Nootbaar. Do you blame Driveline for his injuries?Goldfan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:58 pmDid Noot get a refund?An Old Friend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025 21:51 pm This is excellent news and good to see him there so early in the offseason. There is no doubt that this is driven by Bloom and the new player development engine. It's been my understanding that Mozeliak didn't really compel any players to hit these labs in prior off-seasons and training was largely unstructured.
Walker was given a specific homework assignment and he's getting to work. Hope it works wonders!![]()
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I honestly don't know what you're trying to impress upon people... you're banging on guys who are working to get better.
Average Exit Velocity:
2023 - 89.1 (44th percentile)
2024 - 91.8 (88th percentile)
2025 - 91.3 (79th percentile)
Hard Hit Percentage:
2023 - 37.8 (30th percentile)
2024 - 49.5 (91st percentile)
2025 - 50.0 (87th percentile)
Bat Speed:
2023 - 52nd percentile
2024 - N/A
2025 - 67nd percentile
You think you're making a point... and ripping a guy who has shown meaningful improvements in quality of contact. It's weird, and you should stop.![]()
Meaningful improvements?
![]()
His results haven’t been as hoped as he’s had to struggle through injuries. That doesn’t mean we should just ignore the clear improvements made immediately after a player goes to work to improve on those aspects of his game.
You know who else hits the ball hard, JW. How's that working out?
Ignore his failing WAR and OPS+. Make excuses that he's injured. Or is it, he's injury prone?![]()
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
Lordy, it's up to JW to search out improvements upon what the Cards tried drilling into his thick skull. he worked extensively with Brown in the offseason, prior offseason :rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:42 am Is this J. Walk's first time to visit?
If so, then it took C. Bloom all of a week to send him there while Mo did.![]()
D. Gould reporting aside I hope Bloom keeps him at Memphis and resist calling him up until September.
And only then if he's showing marked improvement in pitch recognition, is laying off those sweeping curves/sliders and driving the ball in the air more than he's killing gophers w/ground balls.
"Real adjustments have to be made, physically and approach-wise, for him to have success,” Marmol said. “At the end of the day, all you can do is — with conviction — show the player what needs to take place, and then it’s up to the player to take hold of that and allow it to transfer into the game.”
“At some point in time he’s going to have to devote more focus on preparation,” Brown said. “One thing with (Walker) is we’ve played a massive game of tennis, going back and forth with what he feels like he needs to do versus what he really needs to do. … But for me, there’s a really easy way out. He might have to be a little bit more uncomfortable to be able to achieve what we wanted to achieve.”
Walker won’t push back against that notion
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Re: Walker working out at Driveline
He either accepts coaching or his career will continue to fizzle out.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 12:45 pmLordy, it's up to JW to search out improvements upon what the Cards tried drilling into his thick skull. he worked extensively with Brown in the offseason, prior offseason :rockondlouie wrote: ↑10 Oct 2025 08:42 am Is this J. Walk's first time to visit?
If so, then it took C. Bloom all of a week to send him there while Mo did.![]()
D. Gould reporting aside I hope Bloom keeps him at Memphis and resist calling him up until September.
And only then if he's showing marked improvement in pitch recognition, is laying off those sweeping curves/sliders and driving the ball in the air more than he's killing gophers w/ground balls.
"Real adjustments have to be made, physically and approach-wise, for him to have success,” Marmol said. “At the end of the day, all you can do is — with conviction — show the player what needs to take place, and then it’s up to the player to take hold of that and allow it to transfer into the game.”
“At some point in time he’s going to have to devote more focus on preparation,” Brown said. “One thing with (Walker) is we’ve played a massive game of tennis, going back and forth with what he feels like he needs to do versus what he really needs to do. … But for me, there’s a really easy way out. He might have to be a little bit more uncomfortable to be able to achieve what we wanted to achieve.”
Walker won’t push back against that notion