OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
They could barely win with a passing game (but still no running game). I wasn't impressed with them against Auburn and not impressed with Auburn at all. We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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onemizzou wrote: 25 Sep 2025 15:04 pm
icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
....We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
That's a bold prediction.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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JW wrote: 25 Sep 2025 20:20 pm
onemizzou wrote: 25 Sep 2025 15:04 pm
icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
....We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
That's a bold prediction.
Not if you've watched their games. Mateer is a decent enough QB but not spectacular and OU has no run game. They're basically SC with a lesser QB and a little better defense. Auburn is about the same with an even lesser QB than OU but a little more run game and a little less defense. Auburn does have a major stud WR though so that could cause us problems.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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onemizzou wrote: 26 Sep 2025 10:45 am
JW wrote: 25 Sep 2025 20:20 pm
onemizzou wrote: 25 Sep 2025 15:04 pm
icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
....We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
That's a bold prediction.
Not if you've watched their games. Mateer is a decent enough QB but not spectacular and OU has no run game. They're basically SC with a lesser QB and a little better defense. Auburn is about the same with an even lesser QB than OU but a little more run game and a little less defense. Auburn does have a major stud WR though so that could cause us problems.
It'll be interesting to see what Vegas thinks prior to each game.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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JW wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:08 am
onemizzou wrote: 26 Sep 2025 10:45 am
JW wrote: 25 Sep 2025 20:20 pm
onemizzou wrote: 25 Sep 2025 15:04 pm
icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
....We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
That's a bold prediction.
Not if you've watched their games. Mateer is a decent enough QB but not spectacular and OU has no run game. They're basically SC with a lesser QB and a little better defense. Auburn is about the same with an even lesser QB than OU but a little more run game and a little less defense. Auburn does have a major stud WR though so that could cause us problems.
It'll be interesting to see what Vegas thinks prior to each game.
Based on the current Power Index and adding three points for HFA, Oklahoma would be -2.5 over Mizzou and Auburn would be Pick Em.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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JW wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:08 am
onemizzou wrote: 26 Sep 2025 10:45 am
JW wrote: 25 Sep 2025 20:20 pm
onemizzou wrote: 25 Sep 2025 15:04 pm
icon wrote: 23 Sep 2025 16:31 pm That changes their trajectory. Can't win on D alone.

Hopefully, they're out of contention by the time the Tigers play them in Norman. They squeaked by Auburn at home with Mateer with a huge lift from the refs.
....We should handily beat both teams even with Mateer at the helm.
That's a bold prediction.
Not if you've watched their games. Mateer is a decent enough QB but not spectacular and OU has no run game. They're basically SC with a lesser QB and a little better defense. Auburn is about the same with an even lesser QB than OU but a little more run game and a little less defense. Auburn does have a major stud WR though so that could cause us problems.
It'll be interesting to see what Vegas thinks prior to each game.
Well, they're not going to like the next three or four games without Mateer. They'll basically be the 2024 Sooners for those games (with a slightly lesser defense).
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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onemizzou wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Well, they're not going to like the next three or four games without Mateer. They'll basically be the 2024 Sooners for those games (with a slightly lesser defense).
Interesting note on Mateer from CBS' Matt Zenitz:

https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1971721689722691842

@mzenitz

"A John Mateer update:

The feeling is the surgery performed by Dr. Steven Shin went very well, sources tell
@cbssports.

It’s too early to tell how realistic this is but there seems to be at least an outside chance Mateer could be back as early as OU’s game vs. Texas Oct. 11."
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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JW wrote: 26 Sep 2025 18:48 pm
onemizzou wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:39 pm
Well, they're not going to like the next three or four games without Mateer. They'll basically be the 2024 Sooners for those games (with a slightly lesser defense).
Interesting note on Mateer from CBS' Matt Zenitz:

https://x.com/mzenitz/status/1971721689722691842

@mzenitz

"A John Mateer update:

The feeling is the surgery performed by Dr. Steven Shin went very well, sources tell
@cbssports.

It’s too early to tell how realistic this is but there seems to be at least an outside chance Mateer could be back as early as OU’s game vs. Texas Oct. 11."
Will see how he actually recovers. I can't imagine being ready in two weeks after surgery.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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Probable for Red River it is for Mateer.

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1976440521905324213

"@PeteThamel
John Mateer upgraded to probable on the SEC availability report."
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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JW wrote: 09 Oct 2025 21:18 pm Probable for Red River it is for Mateer.

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1976440521905324213

"@PeteThamel
John Mateer upgraded to probable on the SEC availability report."
The spread has been dropping. But still -1.5 Tejas as far as I can see.
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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icon wrote: 09 Oct 2025 22:53 pm
JW wrote: 09 Oct 2025 21:18 pm Probable for Red River it is for Mateer.

https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1976440521905324213

"@PeteThamel
John Mateer upgraded to probable on the SEC availability report."
The spread has been dropping. But still -1.5 Tejas as far as I can see.
It's flipped to OU -1.5 at https://www.scoresandodds.com/ncaaf
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Re: OU QB Mateer has hand surgery, out indefinitely

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seems like a imprudent move by sooners as surgery was on hand where he throws the ball. we shall see how it turns out but he IS their rushing attack and how will they feel if they overuse him and he gets hurt again?

shows what they think of their backup more than anything and wanting to beat their long time rival.
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