nighthawk wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:54 am
The certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him" based on one game and 73 innings is always amusing.
His stats are impressive. He’s gone 5 innings or more in 9 of 11 starts. Another start was 4.2
He gave up zero or one run in every start five innings or more. Ironically he has two games less than five innings, both giving up 4 runs.
He seems to show endurance and effectiveness consistently.
So, sort of like Ian Anderson whose is now forever etched in baseball's firmament.
No. I mean he had a good game, and has had many good games this year. Maybe it’s no fluke. Maybe a new pitcher is emerging. And it was Boston Yanks in post season to add to the intrigue.
nighthawk wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:54 am
The certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him" based on one game and 73 innings is always amusing.
His stats are impressive. He’s gone 5 innings or more in 9 of 11 starts. Another start was 4.2
He gave up zero or one run in every start five innings or more. Ironically he has two games less than five innings, both giving up 4 runs.
He seems to show endurance and effectiveness consistently.
So, sort of like Ian Anderson whose is now forever etched in baseball's firmament.
No. I mean he had a good game, and has had many good games this year. Maybe it’s no fluke. Maybe a new pitcher is emerging. And it was Boston Yanks in post season to add to the intrigue.
Ian Anderson had a good post season game in 2020. In fact, he three good post season games in his rookie year -- 18 innings, 1.00 ERA. And he had many good games during the regular season as well.
And I'll bet someone on this forum in 2020 trotted out the always amusing certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him."
nighthawk wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:54 am
The certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him" based on one game and 73 innings is always amusing.
His stats are impressive. He’s gone 5 innings or more in 9 of 11 starts. Another start was 4.2
He gave up zero or one run in every start five innings or more. Ironically he has two games less than five innings, both giving up 4 runs.
He seems to show endurance and effectiveness consistently.
So, sort of like Ian Anderson whose is now forever etched in baseball's firmament.
No. I mean he had a good game, and has had many good games this year. Maybe it’s no fluke. Maybe a new pitcher is emerging. And it was Boston Yanks in post season to add to the intrigue.
Ian Anderson had a good post season game in 2020. In fact, he three good post season games in his rookie year -- 18 innings, 1.00 ERA. And he had many good games during the regular season as well.
And I'll bet someone on this forum in 2020 trotted out the always amusing certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him."
I see. You got to start somewhere. Maybe we looked back and say - remember that kid? For good or bad.
Based on what you have seen of him, and his stats maybe, where do you think he’d rank on the Cards staff.
He is a big boy, too. One thing that seems to be consistent across most "Aces" in MLB is that they are almost all 6' 2" or taller. They don't have to be 6' 6" like Schlittler, but it's rare to find "aces" shorter than this. There are certainly exceptions (Spencer Strider, et.al), I'm just saying it's a trend worth not ignoring.
kyace wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 19:30 pm
This guy was just a so so prospect coming into this year but has looked like a future Ace this year. Yankees do a good job in developing pitching. Yankees were heavily after Donovan last off season. Thy would have easily traded Schlittler and Rice for him. Missed opportunity as Mo was only focused on Arenado.
Link kyace?
I had heard Mo asked them for Spencer Jones.
Pretty sure C. Bloom will dangle him in front of the Yankees and Dodgers (also wanted him) this offseason.
kyace wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 19:30 pm
This guy was just a so so prospect coming into this year but has looked like a future Ace this year. Yankees do a good job in developing pitching. Yankees were heavily after Donovan last off season. Thy would have easily traded Schlittler and Rice for him. Missed opportunity as Mo was only focused on Arenado.
Or, he was just on a nice run.
Let's see how it goes next year. Promising, but not ready to crown him
kyace wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 19:30 pm
This guy was just a so so prospect coming into this year but has looked like a future Ace this year. Yankees do a good job in developing pitching. Yankees were heavily after Donovan last off season. Thy would have easily traded Schlittler and Rice for him. Missed opportunity as Mo was only focused on Arenado.
Link kyace?
I had heard Mo asked them for Spencer Jones.
Pretty sure C. Bloom will dangle him in front of the Yankees and Dodgers (also wanted him) this offseason.
No link as from what I’ve read and heard from listening to Yankee sources and others was that Mo was not even listening to offers on players other than Arenado the past off-season, Now at the trade deadline that may have changed. By that time both players would have been off the table,
Schiltller was someone that came out of nowhere for the Yankees as from what I can tell he wasn’t even listed as a top 30 prospect at the end of 2024. He started the year in AA and rapidly progressed.
Rice was also not a top 10 prospect heading into this year.
If the Cards offered Donovan the Yankees would have given up Schiltller, Rice and possibly even Warren as his name was bandied around in the Arenado discussions as a possible return if the Cards took back Stroman in the deal.
As someone who follows the Yankees closely I don’t think there is any doubt they would have done that deal and Cards fans would have said at the time that the Cards got taken to the cleaners,
kyace wrote: ↑02 Oct 2025 19:30 pm
This guy was just a so so prospect coming into this year but has looked like a future Ace this year. Yankees do a good job in developing pitching. Yankees were heavily after Donovan last off season. Thy would have easily traded Schlittler and Rice for him. Missed opportunity as Mo was only focused on Arenado.
Link kyace?
I had heard Mo asked them for Spencer Jones.
Pretty sure C. Bloom will dangle him in front of the Yankees and Dodgers (also wanted him) this offseason.
No link as from what I’ve read and heard from listening to Yankee sources and others was that Mo was not even listening to offers on players other than Arenado the past off-season, Now at the trade deadline that may have changed. By that time both players would have been off the table,
Schiltller was someone that came out of nowhere for the Yankees as from what I can tell he wasn’t even listed as a top 30 prospect at the end of 2024. He started the year in AA and rapidly progressed.
Rice was also not a top 10 prospect heading into this year.
If the Cards offered Donovan the Yankees would have given up Schiltller, Rice and possibly even Warren as his name was bandied around in the Arenado discussions as a possible return if the Cards took back Stroman in the deal.
As someone who follows the Yankees closely I don’t think there is any doubt they would have done that deal and Cards fans would have said at the time that the Cards got taken to the cleaners,
I remember he did "listen" (and I use that word loosely kyace) and reportedly asked for the moon for Donovan.
That would've been a helluva move but as we both know Mo did nothing this past season, sailed thru to his retirement w/his feet up on the desk.
nighthawk wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:54 am
The certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him" based on one game and 73 innings is always amusing.
His stats are impressive. He’s gone 5 innings or more in 9 of 11 starts. Another start was 4.2
He gave up zero or one run in every start five innings or more. Ironically he has two games less than five innings, both giving up 4 runs.
He seems to show endurance and effectiveness consistently.
So, sort of like Ian Anderson whose is now forever etched in baseball's firmament.
No. I mean he had a good game, and has had many good games this year. Maybe it’s no fluke. Maybe a new pitcher is emerging. And it was Boston Yanks in post season to add to the intrigue.
Ian Anderson had a good post season game in 2020. In fact, he three good post season games in his rookie year -- 18 innings, 1.00 ERA. And he had many good games during the regular season as well.
And I'll bet someone on this forum in 2020 trotted out the always amusing certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him."
Schlittler is the first pitcher in postseason history to fire at least 8 scoreless innings with at least 12 strikeouts without permitting a walk. It wasn't just a good game, it was historic. And insinuating it may have been fluky is rather killjoy-ish. A rookie with electric stuff, great command and ice water in his veins in an elimination game was fun to watch. Whether he will be great long-term is up in the air. Always is with rookies. But he's not just some totally unproven prospect that many teams trade a haul for.
nighthawk wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:54 am
The certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him" based on one game and 73 innings is always amusing.
His stats are impressive. He’s gone 5 innings or more in 9 of 11 starts. Another start was 4.2
He gave up zero or one run in every start five innings or more. Ironically he has two games less than five innings, both giving up 4 runs.
He seems to show endurance and effectiveness consistently.
So, sort of like Ian Anderson whose is now forever etched in baseball's firmament.
No. I mean he had a good game, and has had many good games this year. Maybe it’s no fluke. Maybe a new pitcher is emerging. And it was Boston Yanks in post season to add to the intrigue.
Ian Anderson had a good post season game in 2020. In fact, he three good post season games in his rookie year -- 18 innings, 1.00 ERA. And he had many good games during the regular season as well.
And I'll bet someone on this forum in 2020 trotted out the always amusing certitude of "he'll be great, we should have got him."
Schlittler is the first pitcher in postseason history to fire at least 8 scoreless innings with at least 12 strikeouts without permitting a walk. It wasn't just a good game, it was historic. And insinuating it may have been fluky is rather killjoy-ish. A rookie with electric stuff, great command and ice water in his veins in an elimination game was fun to watch. Whether he will be great long-term is up in the air. Always is with rookies. But he's not just some totally unproven prospect that many teams trade a haul for.
Don Larson's perfect game was even more historic. He was an 81-91 pitcher in his career with a 3.78 ERA.
CNYFan wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 05:45 am
Opinion. I watched them both pitch on a couple of occasions.
The Yankee has better control, better secondary pitches and much, much more endurance.
Yes - and he had 100 pitches after 7, but they sent him out for the 8th. 107 pitches total.
And I don’t know if he even pitched in AAA this season
His control was magnificent
All of the the Cards young pitchers need to work on endurance this off-season. If they can’t go beyond 4-5 innings, they don’t belong starting
Kevin Cash would have removed him after 5 innings. I'll never forget what he did to Matt Snell in the World Series. And the reliever he brought in immediately blew the game. Managing by formula. Takes no brains. You could put AI in charge.
