They keep Oli and

[Bob Kunush]

I'm gone

Watched about 2 games this year. None next.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cry more little baby. Maybe you should stomp your feet and hold your breathe until they fire a man from his job.

You’re probably one of the Karen’s who demand a Starbucks barista be fired b/c they didn’t use perfect penmanship when writing your name on the cup. Lol

And you’re clearly one of those where the barista could routinely pi** in it and you’d still come back every day with a smile on your face, ask for the same thing, and get laughed at on your way out drinking your pi** coffee.

There are actually baseball people who follow the game for a living that think Marmol has done a decent job with a very flawed roster and conflicting goals from his POBO. The Cardinals have been terrible the last three years but out performed their statistical expectations. Their bullpen performance and management thereof have been good. Bloom is a pretty smart guy and if he thought Marmol was as toxic aa his detractors think he is he would have replaced him. I wouldn't bet a lot on him being here after 2026 but so many roster changes have to be made and young guys will be playing. Development is the background of Marmol. I would have been stunned if Bloom fired him this year.

[JuanAgosto]

I'm gone

Watched about 2 games this year. None next.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cry more little baby. Maybe you should stomp your feet and hold your breathe until they fire a man from his job.

You’re probably one of the Karen’s who demand a Starbucks barista be fired b/c they didn’t use perfect penmanship when writing your name on the cup. Lol

And you’re clearly one of those where the barista could routinely pi** in it and you’d still come back every day with a smile on your face, ask for the same thing, and get laughed at on your way out drinking your pi** coffee.

There are actually baseball people who follow the game for a living that think Marmol has done a decent job with a very flawed roster and conflicting goals from his POBO. The Cardinals have been terrible the last three years but out performed their statistical expectations. Their bullpen performance and management thereof have been good. Bloom is a pretty smart guy and if he thought Marmol was as toxic aa his detractors think he is he would have replaced him. I wouldn't bet a lot on him being here after 2026 but so many roster changes have to be made and young guys will be playing. Development is the background of Marmol. I would have been stunned if Bloom fired him this year.

No surprise oli was retained for 2026. They know they won't compete for postseason play. And no desirable manager is committing until there is a chance to win.

As for the media types who "follow the game for a living", I take their opinions with a grain of salt. Some of those experts argue Molina isn't a HOF player. They aren't the brightest of folk.

[Stlcardsblues]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Exactly.

Most of us spent YEARS wanting Mo gone and someone else in the POBO seat. Let’s let the guy do his job.

This played out exactly as I said it would a few days ago. I don’t understand why people thought Marmol was being fired. Ownership is going to further reduce payroll. They are not going to pay two managers for a season they are throwing away.

Marmol is nothing special, but he isn’t as bad as some make him out to be. History shows no matter who the manager is people will despise him.

[ecleme22]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Exactly.

Most of us spent YEARS wanting Mo gone and someone else in the POBO seat. Let’s let the guy do his job.

This played out exactly as I said it would a few days ago. I don’t understand why people thought Marmol was being fired. Ownership is going to further reduce payroll. They are not going to pay two managers for a season they are throwing away.

Marmol is nothing special, but he isn’t as bad as some make him out to be. History shows no matter who the manager is people will despise him.

You said: "They are not going to pay two managers for a season they are throwing away." Funny, I was trying to explain this to Basil, but he didn't get it.

[Cusecards]

When it comes to Oli or any Manager hindsight is always 20/20 when evaluating their moves.
Having said that...and I have no way of quantifying it....after 4 seasons it seems like he makes many more bad decisions than good.
My biggest issue watching every game concerns their below average fundamentals.
And that is headlined by poor plate discipline and awful base running by the majority of the players.
In fairness......without being in the Clubhouse, in the dugout, or on the practice field .....it’s very hard to assign blame.
Maybe all the players have Low Baseball IQ??
Could be the root cause but I find it hard to believe that the Manager/Staff aren’t a factor in this??
Perhaps the biggest factor??

[Ozziesfan41]

When it comes to Oli or any Manager hindsight is always 20/20 when evaluating their moves.
Having said that...and I have no way of quantifying it....after 4 seasons it seems like he makes many more bad decisions than good.
My biggest issue watching every game concerns their below average fundamentals.
And that is headlined by poor plate discipline and awful base running by the majority of the players.
In fairness......without being in the Clubhouse, in the dugout, or on the practice field .....it’s very hard to assign blame.
Maybe all the players have Low Baseball IQ??
Could be the root cause but I find it hard to believe that the Manager/Staff aren’t a factor in this??
Perhaps the biggest factor??

Well we don’t know if they are the cause of the awful fundamental play but we do know they haven’t been the solution

[Cusecards]

When it comes to Oli or any Manager hindsight is always 20/20 when evaluating their moves.
Having said that...and I have no way of quantifying it....after 4 seasons it seems like he makes many more bad decisions than good.
My biggest issue watching every game concerns their below average fundamentals.
And that is headlined by poor plate discipline and awful base running by the majority of the players.
In fairness......without being in the Clubhouse, in the dugout, or on the practice field .....it’s very hard to assign blame.
Maybe all the players have Low Baseball IQ??
Could be the root cause but I find it hard to believe that the Manager/Staff aren’t a factor in this??
Perhaps the biggest factor??

Well we don’t know if they are the cause of the awful fundamental play but we do know they haven’t been the solution

Agree

[Bushiro]

For the 100th time. Oli had a bad roster and there was no way this team was going to be competitive. Plus, he did not hit, pitch nor take the field.

Yadi is a fan favorite, but what makes you think he would be a good manager...one year of managing in Puerto Rico?

If you are really not going to see any games because of the manager, then you're not a real fan. If you think anyone will miss you, you're also delusional.

The argument that a manager doesn't pitch, hit, nor take the field, holds no water. If teams used that logic, no manager would ever be fired. Ever think that maybe some of the on field shortcomings may be due to poor coaching, poor preparation, and bad decisions?

Exactly....does David Bell take this reds team to the playoffs....I highly doubt it

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I would venture to say that at the beginning of the season, most folks on CT, including I, thought the Cardinals would finish ahead of the Brewers. So Murphy took a roster that most people on here didn't think much of and ran away with the division. Meanwhile, Marmol....

And look at Miami. The Marlins lost 100 games last year, then they hired McCullough out of the Dodgers organization, and they almost finished .500.

Managers can and do make a difference.

[rockondlouie]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

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BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

[rockondlouie]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

IMO icon those young players (Gorman, Walker, Scott, etal) are a bi-product of Mo's horrible minor league player development system.

I put the blame for their failures on the entire system, including Oli who didn't do anything to help them.

Noot is a mystery, aside from the obvious (injuries) he's still a stat cast favorite and why he regressed in 2025 is a mystery.

Trust me, I'm NOT AN OLI FAN and have been calling for him to be fired since he e f f e d up Game 1 of the Phillies series!

But I also knew what BDWJr was going to do and it makes sense to have him cheerleading the young players who come up in 2026 (and have had the benefit of C. Bloom's system he began putting in place in 2024).

[kyace]

I think keeping Oli is ownerships call. Now if Bloom would say it’s him or me then Oli would be gone and he still may.
My guess is Bloom see’s Oli as pretty much neutral and since 2026 will be a throw away year to rebuild having Oli here does no harm.
I don’t hold Oli to blame for the past few seasons as the fault was MO’s.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

He’s under contract I fully expected him to stay.

[ramfandan]

I think Oli is keeping the seat warm until Yadi is ready to take over. Yadi's son graduates in 2026. Yadi in the past has said that he wanted to manage when his son was done with high school.

I don't think Yadi would be Bloom's pick. I think it is what DeWitt wants.

Would he be the first MLB manager with a neck tattoo?

probably but he could also gain another first ... if he ever managesd a game vs. the first woman manager .. it could be billed as a 'tit for tat ' !

[JuanAgosto]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

IMO icon those young players (Gorman, Walker, Scott, etal) are a bi-product of Mo's horrible minor league player development system.

I put the blame for their failures on the entire system, including Oli who didn't do anything to help them.

Noot is a mystery, aside from the obvious (injuries) he's still a stat cast favorite and why he regressed in 2025 is a mystery.

Trust me, I'm NOT AN OLI FAN and have been calling for him to be fired since he e f f e d up Game 1 of the Phillies series!

But I also knew what BDWJr was going to do and it makes sense to have him cheerleading the young players who come up in 2026 (and have had the benefit of C. Bloom's system he began putting in place in 2024).

But people on here claim oli is a good teacher. And has the respect of the clubhouse.

He should've been canned two years ago. But Mozeliak wasn't serious about winning anything. And DeWitt was busy counting money.