Ville Heinola - an example of rushing a prospect and potential waiver option

[Cahokanut]

Army actually used "re-whatever" - it may have begun before he used it but then he used it

Still a made up word that only the simplest of minds will hang on to in an effort to prove something. In reality, critical thinkers understand it was said to address all those insisting on labeling what the Blues did. Was it a re-tool, a re-build? Whatever, doesn't matter because we won't spend years at the bottom of the league in hopes that some kids progress to the point of us being relevant and cup contenders.

It didn't matter what it was called because it was just bull[shirt] to keep some of the easy thinking fans, holding on to his leg.

The Re-nothing was the exact same thing it was every single year. Move out fan favorites, include some disrespect to those that bleed the blue. Bring in a couple vets to play big minutes. And claim to be winners while losing. Which is why went from top three in the league(his first five years) to top hope for a bubble party in the league(the last ten years).

That top three team in the league was built through a "tank"
Those assets was what made it possible for army to trade away so many first and second rd picks for the vets that was to make us champs.
It was again those assets along with a 3 more first rd picks and 7.5 million dollars that gave us the best guy ever. Everything that have Army such a high win total, came from a tank.

But Army the genius, convinces his loudest fans that being on the bubble is how winners are built. And they Cheer.

So why are you here? It's pretty clear you are a miserable fan who gets zero enjoyment from Blues hockey. Since you hate everything about the Blues, I'm sure you'd be much happier following/cheering on the Ducks, Sharks, Preds or Blackhawks. Those teams must have better GMs and are clearly doing things "the right way". Don't be a hypocrite, move on and cheer for one or more of those other teams.

So because I use facts to prove Army isn't the greatest. Somehow I don't like the Blues.

Because I think Army brings to many vets in I don't like the Blues.

Even if I hated half the team(I don't hate any of them) it still doesn't say a thing about whether or not I like the Blues.

But I understand. You are the bestest fan, only you can tell others how to be a fan. And the GM is the whole team.
(bleep) off. Cultman.

Ah, so it is the imbecile Bomac. Welcome "back". And please don't consider your opinions as facts.

By the way, not the "bestest" fan. But I do have the ability to think critically, something you and your other socks can't do.

Like I said, don't be a hypocrite. You can easily start following one of the other teams I mentioned before since they are doing it the right way. You won't enjoy playoff hockey for a while, but at least the GM will be goodly and stuff.

It's okay divingjack90. I'm bored not talking hockey to whichever smelly sock of yours this is. What about the snowball tournament.

[STL fan in MN]

Army actually used "re-whatever" - it may have begun before he used it but then he used it

Still a made up word that only the simplest of minds will hang on to in an effort to prove something. In reality, critical thinkers understand it was said to address all those insisting on labeling what the Blues did. Was it a re-tool, a re-build? Whatever, doesn't matter because we won't spend years at the bottom of the league in hopes that some kids progress to the point of us being relevant and cup contenders.

It didn't matter what it was called because it was just bull[shirt] to keep some of the easy thinking fans, holding on to his leg.

The Re-nothing was the exact same thing it was every single year. Move out fan favorites, include some disrespect to those that bleed the blue. Bring in a couple vets to play big minutes. And claim to be winners while losing. Which is why went from top three in the league(his first five years) to top hope for a bubble party in the league(the last ten years).

That top three team in the league was built through a "tank"
Those assets was what made it possible for army to trade away so many first and second rd picks for the vets that was to make us champs.
It was again those assets along with a 3 more first rd picks and 7.5 million dollars that gave us the best guy ever. Everything that have Army such a high win total, came from a tank.

But Army the genius, convinces his loudest fans that being on the bubble is how winners are built. And they Cheer.

What fan favorites did we move out and disrespect this summer. Leddy? Faksa??

And what tank are you referring to? 2008 when we got Petro? The Blues finished with 79 pts that season. That’s not a good season but it’s rare that many pts is the 4th fewest in a given year. The Sharks had 52 pts last season. The Hawks had 61. THAT is tanking. There just happened to be a lot more parity in 2007-08 and the Blues being subpar allowed them to get Petro.

If you’re referring to the full out tank in 2005-06 that got us EJ, 1. it didn’t really work because EJ massively disappointed and 2. it’s been shown time and again it was a stupid move bc management at the time thought the team would sell better if they got rid of the high priced salaries like Pronger (they somehow saw Pronger and other good players as liabilities instead of assets). It almost bankrupted the team and that folly and mismanagement of a tank is probably why the Blues, at least under Stillman’s ownership, will never ever ever do something like that again.

From the beginning.

KELLY was the fan favorite. He was also another Army skirted.

Petro was part of that tank. So was EJ. Just becaise you saw no value in EJ or the players that trade brought back doesn't mean they wasn't part of the build or team that gave Army them early year wins.

I have the faintest reason Pronger was brought into this. But to set up a feild goal through those post.

I didn’t like the move to not bring back Kelly either but blaming Army is an absolute misunderstanding of how the Blues hierarchy works. Army is the GM and President of Hockey Operations. He runs the hockey side. The Blues keep the business side separate. That side is run by Chris Zimmerman - President and CEO of Business Ops. Even if you want to believe the Blues were 100% at fault for not renewing Kelly’s contract with FanDual, it would be Zimmerman, EVP and Chief Revenue and Marketing Officer Steve Chapman and of course owner Tom Stillman (and probably his partners too) that would’ve made that decision or at least signed off on it, not Army.

And you really don’t understand the Pronger connection to the Blues tanking from 2005 to around 2009?? Bill Laurie owned the Blues back then. He didn’t care about or know much about hockey. He bought the team with the hopes of getting a NBA franchise in STL and owning the Blues and the arena was his ticket to that. Once that failed, he had no interest in keeping the Blues. He and his advisors misread things and figured it’d be easier to sell the team without high priced players on the payroll. So we sold off our better players, the main one being Pronger. GM Larry Pleau was forced to sell Pronger, the other GMs knew it, which is why we got garbage in return. THAT is why we were bad. Not some smart, strategic tank to get top picks. It almost bankrupted the team and Stillman has said multiple times now that he would never ever do something like that. If you don’t see the connection there…I don’t know what to tell you.

[SRV1990]

Army actually used "re-whatever" - it may have begun before he used it but then he used it

Still a made up word that only the simplest of minds will hang on to in an effort to prove something. In reality, critical thinkers understand it was said to address all those insisting on labeling what the Blues did. Was it a re-tool, a re-build? Whatever, doesn't matter because we won't spend years at the bottom of the league in hopes that some kids progress to the point of us being relevant and cup contenders.

It didn't matter what it was called because it was just bull[shirt] to keep some of the easy thinking fans, holding on to his leg.

The Re-nothing was the exact same thing it was every single year. Move out fan favorites, include some disrespect to those that bleed the blue. Bring in a couple vets to play big minutes. And claim to be winners while losing. Which is why went from top three in the league(his first five years) to top hope for a bubble party in the league(the last ten years).

That top three team in the league was built through a "tank"
Those assets was what made it possible for army to trade away so many first and second rd picks for the vets that was to make us champs.
It was again those assets along with a 3 more first rd picks and 7.5 million dollars that gave us the best guy ever. Everything that have Army such a high win total, came from a tank.

But Army the genius, convinces his loudest fans that being on the bubble is how winners are built. And they Cheer.

What fan favorites did we move out and disrespect this summer. Leddy? Faksa??

And what tank are you referring to? 2008 when we got Petro? The Blues finished with 79 pts that season. That’s not a good season but it’s rare that many pts is the 4th fewest in a given year. The Sharks had 52 pts last season. The Hawks had 61. THAT is tanking. There just happened to be a lot more parity in 2007-08 and the Blues being subpar allowed them to get Petro.

If you’re referring to the full out tank in 2005-06 that got us EJ, 1. it didn’t really work because EJ massively disappointed and 2. it’s been shown time and again it was a stupid move bc management at the time thought the team would sell better if they got rid of the high priced salaries like Pronger (they somehow saw Pronger and other good players as liabilities instead of assets). It almost bankrupted the team and that folly and mismanagement of a tank is probably why the Blues, at least under Stillman’s ownership, will never ever ever do something like that again.

From the beginning.

KELLY was the fan favorite. He was also another Army skirted.

Petro was part of that tank. So was EJ. Just becaise you saw no value in EJ or the players that trade brought back doesn't mean they wasn't part of the build or team that gave Army them early year wins.

I have the faintest reason Pronger was brought into this. But to set up a feild goal through those post.

I didn’t like the move to not bring back Kelly either but blaming Army is an absolute misunderstanding of how the Blues hierarchy works. Army is the GM and President of Hockey Operations. He runs the hockey side. The Blues keep the business side separate. That side is run by Chris Zimmerman - President and CEO of Business Ops. Even if you want to believe the Blues were 100% at fault for not renewing Kelly’s contract with FanDual, it would be Zimmerman, EVP and Chief Revenue and Marketing Officer Steve Chapman and of course owner Tom Stillman (and probably his partners too) that would’ve made that decision or at least signed off on it, not Army.

And you really don’t understand the Pronger connection to the Blues tanking from 2005 to around 2009?? Bill Laurie owned the Blues back then. He didn’t care about or know much about hockey. He bought the team with the hopes of getting a NBA franchise in STL and owning the Blues and the arena was his ticket to that. Once that failed, he had no interest in keeping the Blues. He and his advisors misread things and figured it’d be easier to sell the team without high priced players on the payroll. So we sold off our better players, the main one being Pronger. GM Larry Pleau was forced to sell Pronger, the other GMs knew it, which is why we got garbage in return. THAT is why we were bad. Not some smart, strategic tank to get top picks. It almost bankrupted the team and Stillman has said multiple times now that he would never ever do something like that. If you don’t see the connection there…I don’t know what to tell you.

It amazes me that there are a few posters who will do the most outlandish mental gymnastics to constantly force a narrative. And despite you laying out complete facts, none of it will matter.

[Cahokanut]

Army actually used "re-whatever" - it may have begun before he used it but then he used it

Still a made up word that only the simplest of minds will hang on to in an effort to prove something. In reality, critical thinkers understand it was said to address all those insisting on labeling what the Blues did. Was it a re-tool, a re-build? Whatever, doesn't matter because we won't spend years at the bottom of the league in hopes that some kids progress to the point of us being relevant and cup contenders.

It didn't matter what it was called because it was just bull[shirt] to keep some of the easy thinking fans, holding on to his leg.

The Re-nothing was the exact same thing it was every single year. Move out fan favorites, include some disrespect to those that bleed the blue. Bring in a couple vets to play big minutes. And claim to be winners while losing. Which is why went from top three in the league(his first five years) to top hope for a bubble party in the league(the last ten years).

That top three team in the league was built through a "tank"
Those assets was what made it possible for army to trade away so many first and second rd picks for the vets that was to make us champs.
It was again those assets along with a 3 more first rd picks and 7.5 million dollars that gave us the best guy ever. Everything that have Army such a high win total, came from a tank.

But Army the genius, convinces his loudest fans that being on the bubble is how winners are built. And they Cheer.

What fan favorites did we move out and disrespect this summer. Leddy? Faksa??

And what tank are you referring to? 2008 when we got Petro? The Blues finished with 79 pts that season. That’s not a good season but it’s rare that many pts is the 4th fewest in a given year. The Sharks had 52 pts last season. The Hawks had 61. THAT is tanking. There just happened to be a lot more parity in 2007-08 and the Blues being subpar allowed them to get Petro.

If you’re referring to the full out tank in 2005-06 that got us EJ, 1. it didn’t really work because EJ massively disappointed and 2. it’s been shown time and again it was a stupid move bc management at the time thought the team would sell better if they got rid of the high priced salaries like Pronger (they somehow saw Pronger and other good players as liabilities instead of assets). It almost bankrupted the team and that folly and mismanagement of a tank is probably why the Blues, at least under Stillman’s ownership, will never ever ever do something like that again.

From the beginning.

KELLY was the fan favorite. He was also another Army skirted.

Petro was part of that tank. So was EJ. Just becaise you saw no value in EJ or the players that trade brought back doesn't mean they wasn't part of the build or team that gave Army them early year wins.

I have the faintest reason Pronger was brought into this. But to set up a feild goal through those post.

"And you really don’t understand the Pronger connection to the Blues tanking from 2005 to around 2009?? "

I guess you answered your own question that started all this.
The Blues Tanked. Now spread the word to your minions. I think you confuse them and all they know is attack.

Also I can't see any move made by anyone that Army didn't have a say in. How big is really unknown by me or You.