Dalibor Dvorsky

[dhsux]

Yeah I think here on this board the expectations are too high...and I mean expectations for game #1 this year.

Robert Thomas was drafted in 2017.

Relax folks, let the pro's cipher it out for his best path. I agree some time this year in the bigs is likely and maybe some up/down from there.

But I do think the Blues have a made a good pick with this player.

[kimzey59]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

I don't necessarily disagree.
However; nobody else has really stepped up to secure that 3rd line spot either.
Texier is still the Texier we remember(good speed and skill, but it isn't translating to points and his defense isn't good).
Joseph still can't find the scoresheet.
Bjugstad and Sunny haven't separated themselves enough to say they should both play every night.

IMO Dvorsky is very much in that group, he's just got an uphill battle since he can be sent down freely.

[BalotelliMassive]

Yeah I think here on this board the expectations are too high...

People here were calling for him to make the 23-24 roster...

[seattleblue]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

I don't necessarily disagree.
However; nobody else has really stepped up to secure that 3rd line spot either.
Texier is still the Texier we remember(good speed and skill, but it isn't translating to points and his defense isn't good).
Joseph still can't find the scoresheet.
Bjugstad and Sunny haven't separated themselves enough to say they should both play every night.

IMO Dvorsky is very much in that group, he's just got an uphill battle since he can be sent down freely.

yup. are you over or under for 50 games in the NHL this season?

[a smell of green grass]

Pius Suter would not have come here if DVO were closer to NHL IMO. Suter evaluated the situation in STL and other cities closely before choosing STL.
Army would not have gone after Bennett, Suter, and Bjugstad if DVO were closer.
DVO was given a lot of time in camp and games to light a fire and show him how what he has to improve.
He makes nice passes most of the time, and he has good visibility and IQ, but he doesn't carry/drive the offense.
Has the physique, IQ, and hands to make the NHL, but the Blues need to find the best spot for him long-term.

Odds IMO:

NHL Center: 5%
NHL Winger: 95%

Stop it, just stop it.

He's not going to be a [fork]ing winger.

He may get started out as a winger to give him the opportunity to learn the pace and the game at the NHL level, which many future centers have done.
He's going to be a center.

What you typed is just you being hateful.

I don't see it that way. I'm trying to help Dvorsky out by moving him to a spot where he will thrive.

If you are sold that he is a Center, then great.

Who is more hateful?
- The GM that brings in.a bunch of Centers and puts them in your promotion path
- The Fan that wants to see you in the lineup, somewhere, in some kind of role.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Seattle, barring multiple injuries I think Dvorsky gets less than 50 nhl games this season. They want him to play a decent number of games at center in the Ahl unless he is clearly an upgrade on 3W. Right now he's not a clear upgrade. He's probably an upgrade offensively on Joseph but a downgrade in other areas. Joseph has the speed to forecheck and get the puck back, plus he is more physical and he can PK. Sunny is obviously better positionally and that high hockey IQ. If they move somebody to make room for him and Stenberg or get some injuries ... I can see Dvo getting significant games.

[SameOldBlues]

Im not down on him, and still think he’ll be a very good second line center who averages 60 to 70 points a year, but man, I wish Id see more urgency in his game. He looks lackadaisical to me alot of the time. I know Ive gotta be patient with these kids tho.

[Harry S Deals]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

[STL fan in MN]

If we’re talking about the beginning of this season, then Devo is most likely to be a winger. If we’re talking as an injury call-up later this season…it depends on who got injured, what the need is and who might be able to slide over. If we’re talking longterm, it’s absolutely at center.

I think he’d make for a good winger but he’s also very good at C, we have a longtime need there…it makes pretty much zero sense to try to move him to wing beyond simply easing the load as he tries to adjust to the NHL.

[Sophisticated Shoes]

Based on last night's game, Dvo could absolutely stay up and play RW-3, it's a matter if the Blues want to go that route or send him back and call him up during the season. I personally think he's going to win that RW position and hope to see the Blues play him at RW in one of the remaining preseason games. That in itself might be an indicator of sorts.

[kimzey59]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

I don't necessarily disagree.
However; nobody else has really stepped up to secure that 3rd line spot either.
Texier is still the Texier we remember(good speed and skill, but it isn't translating to points and his defense isn't good).
Joseph still can't find the scoresheet.
Bjugstad and Sunny haven't separated themselves enough to say they should both play every night.

IMO Dvorsky is very much in that group, he's just got an uphill battle since he can be sent down freely.

yup. are you over or under for 50 games in the NHL this season?

Not ready to make any guesses.

What I will say:
Dvorsky hasn't played one second of wing all pre-season. I don't see any inclination from the coaching staff to even try him at wing.
Personally, I don't think the discussion is exclusively about 3RW. I think there are two options that the coaching staff is debating between.
Joseph as the 3rd line RW with Schenn and Jake
or
Dvorsky as 3rd line center with Schenn moving to wing

And I'm not ready to say which option is better just yet.

I'd also point out that Dvorsky has had Carbonneau stapled to his RW the whole time and Carb's was clearly not close to ready from a defensive standpoint.

Personally, I want to see how Dvorsky looks with actual NHL wingers before making any guesses. So far, he's been stuck carrying the majority of the defensive load for his line and I don't think that's given us a real gauge of his current status.

Ideally, I'd like to see him between Neighbours and Joseph on Tuesday; but at least give him Sunny and Tex to see if the offense becomes visible with a slightly reduced defensive role. Another interesting factor is that Dvorsky is at 50% on FO's so far(13 wins in 26 attempts). If he pulls himself into the positive on Tuesday that could be another factor.

[Pierre McGuire]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

Kessel can’t go away fast enough. Also..where is Looch?

[britishblue]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

Kessel can’t go away fast enough. Also..where is Looch?

I just dont see a fit for Lucic on this team.

Agreee on Kessel, I wouldnt be shocked to see us grab a dman on waivers when the final cuts come in.

[Old_Goat]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

What you say makes sense, definitely at the start of the season. Although maybe the defense pairings might/could be adjusted somewhat? And depending on (the hopefully not) whatever injury situation develops could be the determining factor as to whom & when gets called up.

[Harry S Deals]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

Kessel can’t go away fast enough. Also..where is Looch?

I just dont see a fit for Lucic on this team.

Agreee on Kessel, I wouldnt be shocked to see us grab a dman on waivers when the final cuts come in.

How do the Blues make Lucic fit? He looked awful in the game i watched, cant skate, pass, shoot, etc. Is he just a 4th line goon? I dont see it i would be shocked if someone is waived for Lucic

[Pierre McGuire]

I dont think the Blues have roster space for Texier, Joseph AND Dvorsky. Its two of that three. Sunny and Snuggerud arent going anywhere and they will carry a 7th dman in Kessel is my assumption


Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Hollowy Schenn Kyrou
Neighbours Suter Joseph/Texier
Walker Bjugstad Torop/Sunny


Fowler Parayko
Broberg Faulk
Tucker Mailloiux
Kessel

Hofer/Binnie

Kessel can’t go away fast enough. Also..where is Looch?

I just dont see a fit for Lucic on this team.

Agreee on Kessel, I wouldnt be shocked to see us grab a dman on waivers when the final cuts come in.

How do the Blues make Lucic fit? He looked awful in the game i watched, cant skate, pass, shoot, etc. Is he just a 4th line goon? I dont see it i would be shocked if someone is waived for Lucic

He takes over the press box role that Texier had and you put him in the lineup when needed