Dalibor Dvorsky

[billybaseball]

Haven't watched a minute of any preseason game or any of training camp. Saw his goal yesterday and it was a sniper reminiscent of how Tarasenko used to score for us. How has he looked so far? I heard bad things early on in camp but it's starting to sound like he's turning things around.

If he did make the team where do you think he'll play?

[callitwhatyouwant]

What bad things did you hear? people were praising Carbs about how surprising he was. The trolls used that to diss on DD. Dvorsky has been really good at every level he has played at. Army and Monty have had nothing but positive stuff to say about him every step of the way. The only thing they seem to defer to is that he has to absolutely win over that spot if he is to be brought up early, not a tie goes to the young guy situation.

[billybaseball]

What bad things did you hear? people were praising Carbs about how surprising he was. The trolls used that to diss on DD. Dvorsky has been really good at every level he has played at. Army and Monty have had nothing but positive stuff to say about him every step of the way. The only thing they seem to defer to is that he has to absolutely win over that spot if he is to be brought up early, not a tie goes to the young guy situation.

Why argue with the setup to the premise of the post? Can you speak to how he's looked in games or recently in camp? I want to know if he's played his way into contention for a roster spot after it had been assumed he would be in Springfield to start the year

[danno]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

[a smell of green grass]

Pius Suter would not have come here if DVO were closer to NHL IMO. Suter evaluated the situation in STL and other cities closely before choosing STL.
Army would not have gone after Bennett, Suter, and Bjugstad if DVO were closer.
DVO was given a lot of time in camp and games to light a fire and show him how what he has to improve.
He makes nice passes most of the time, and he has good visibility and IQ, but he doesn't carry/drive the offense.
Has the physique, IQ, and hands to make the NHL, but the Blues need to find the best spot for him long-term.

Odds IMO:

NHL Center: 5%
NHL Winger: 95%

[danno]

As soon as Army signed Suter and Bjugstad this summer, it told me that none of our forward prospects were likely to crack the roster out of camp in September

[Except for Snuggerud who already looked like a great fit with 18 & 89]

[STL fan in MN]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

Agree except for the entire season in Springfield part.

I’d agree he’s looked good in his 2 preseason games so far but not enough to definitively say he’s 100% NHL ready and has stolen a spot. There’s been good plays but also some bad ones as well. I’d like to see him improve his consistency and really start to dominate the AHL level before he’s called up. I don’t really see the need to force him onto the roster to start the season.

That said, I’d be surprised if he spent the entire season in the AHL. I expect him to continue to improve and show he’s ready at some point this season. And there’s always injuries and he should be at the top of the call-up list.

[zamadoo]

Haven't watched a minute of any preseason game or any of training camp. Saw his goal yesterday and it was a sniper reminiscent of how Tarasenko used to score for us. How has he looked so far? I heard bad things early on in camp but it's starting to sound like he's turning things around.

If he did make the team where do you think he'll play?

Funny, I've said he looks like Tarasenko on the ice. His shot is lethal. Plays center, but uses the whole ice. He looked more himself last night. Probably helped to be playing with Pekarcik and Carbonneau. I think he got some time with Snuggerud as well. Man, what a combo that will be to have on the PP.

Thinking he starts in Springfield for more reps at Center. If he made the team, it's probably as a wing or because someone got hurt. There's the off chance that they move Schenn to wing, and Dvo either centers Holloway (who he paired with in the preseason) and Kyrou or Schenn and Neighbours. I could see him fill in at 4C due to injuries with maybe some special teams time.

[DawgDad]

I've watched all of the preseason games and in my opinion he just hasn't made himself stand out enough.

That was a nice snipe on Saturday, but all things considered I still think he starts the season in Springfield.

If he wants to stay up with the big club he's gonna need to steal a spot from one of suter, bjugstad, sundqvist, or Joseph.

He's young. [ just turned 20 years old ]
I think everything will still turn out fine if he spends the entire season on Springfield

I doubt he spends the entire season in Springfield, he's likely to get some NHL games. Open question whether or nor he'd be a factor in the NHL playoffs.

His biggest hurdle right now is the Blues don't need him. In 2018 the Blues needed a 3RW and they plugged in Thomas (remember, Sanford was a top-6!, they were thin at RW behind Tarasenko). Also, he is a center, and he's being groomed as a center. The Blues have better near-term options at center.

DD to me is a center in the mold of ROR, defensively responsible with good hands and shot and decent size but not a flashy skater driving offense. He's a guy you look up at various points and say he's getting the job done and helping the team but he's not in the top scoring leaders.

The Blues may be facing a problem later this season or next summer, they might have a whole line ready to move up to the NHL (Stenberg-Dvorsky-Kaskimaki). I suspect at some point this season it's going to be apparent Dvorsky is ready for the NHL.

[billybaseball]

As soon as Army signed Suter and Bjugstad this summer, it told me that none of our forward prospects were likely to crack the roster out of camp in September

[Except for Snuggerud who already looked like a great fit with 18 & 89]

Bjugstad could center the 4th line with Dvorsky getting the Thomas treatment with Schenn and Neighbours. Although, while I think Dvorsky maybe a better offensive player at 20 than Thomas was, Thomas was much more NHL ready.

[danno]

If bjugstad is centering the 4th line then that means sundqvist or joseph is playing 3rd line wing.

I doubt that we'll see Texier, Joseph, and Sundqvist all in the pressbox at the same time

Its gonna take more than just 1 injury to force management to call someone up

[zamadoo]

If bjugstad is centering the 4th line then that means sundqvist or joseph is playing 3rd line wing.

I doubt that we'll see Texier, Joseph, and Sundqvist all in the pressbox at the same time

Its gonna take more than just 1 injury to force management to call someone up

I see Joseph, Texier, Sunny, and Walker rotating to stay fresh.

Let's say Texier is sick and can't be in the lineup for another extended span like last season... and then one of those other guys is injured... then Kaskimaki or Luff could get called up. If one of the top-9 centers is injured, I could see them going with Dvo. But yeah, you're right as far as the forward depth is concerned.

[seattleblue]

If you notice the goal he scored yesterday there was an extra level of skill in that shot. It looked so casual but it wasn't. He has done that flick to the top left corner using the defenseman screen before and he's going to score some goals that you're like, how did he put that in? He is as smart as you need to be to play center at a very high level in the NHL. There is no way he is spending all year in Springfield. I would expect him to get sent down only because he's exempt but it could be with the intention of calling him back up.

The first skill player that gets hurt he is up, and that's if he doesn't make the team which he still could. Feels like a 50 game NHL season for him, gut level. Gets playoff experience. When he first arrives, he'll have a handful of flashes but otherwise be okay. Then at some point something will click and we'll see him get a little pop of production. He will build these little steps toward where he's going which I think is going to be a very very good Blue.

[TheJackBurton]

Pius Suter would not have come here if DVO were closer to NHL IMO. Suter evaluated the situation in STL and other cities closely before choosing STL.
Army would not have gone after Bennett, Suter, and Bjugstad if DVO were closer.
DVO was given a lot of time in camp and games to light a fire and show him how what he has to improve.
He makes nice passes most of the time, and he has good visibility and IQ, but he doesn't carry/drive the offense.
Has the physique, IQ, and hands to make the NHL, but the Blues need to find the best spot for him long-term.

Odds IMO:

NHL Center: 5%
NHL Winger: 95%

Stop it, just stop it.

He's not going to be a [fork]ing winger.

He may get started out as a winger to give him the opportunity to learn the pace and the game at the NHL level, which many future centers have done.
He's going to be a center.

What you typed is just you being hateful.

[Harry York 37]

Dvorsky plays a poised and almost relaxed game. He has incredible vision and anticipation. He played quite well in the 2.5 periods I saw- even omitting his stunning beauty of a snipe. His release and his decisions are lightning fast and he was solid getting back as the third D, as a Center usually needs to do.

He will be a Center for the Blues by next season, from what I saw.
He played the whole game centering a line with an 18 year old and a guy who turned 20 two weeks ago... granted, both of those kid wingers will be middle six NHL'rs or better soon, and Pekarcik and he were absolute monsters in the WJC this past year, it was still a very, very fine display in my opinion.
He is solid and tough, to boot.

[TheJackBurton]

What bad things did you hear? people were praising Carbs about how surprising he was. The trolls used that to diss on DD. Dvorsky has been really good at every level he has played at. Army and Monty have had nothing but positive stuff to say about him every step of the way. The only thing they seem to defer to is that he has to absolutely win over that spot if he is to be brought up early, not a tie goes to the young guy situation.

Why argue with the setup to the premise of the post? Can you speak to how he's looked in games or recently in camp? I want to know if he's played his way into contention for a roster spot after it had been assumed he would be in Springfield to start the year

It's hard to say to be quite honest.

We as fans have no idea what the Blues have asked him to do. I compare it to when MLB teams have pitchers work on pitches or mechanics in spring training and they don't look great in some spring training starts.

For all we really know they may have asked him to concentrate on 3 or 4 things and because of that his natural offensive instincts suffered and he wasn't able to dominate like he should have. That doesn't mean he played poorly, for all we know the Blues are quite happy with what he has been doing.

That being said, I'm in the same boat as many others, barring an injury to some players at the end of spring training he get sent down to the AHL, but is one of the last cuts.

He'll do about 20 or so games down there, but I do think once he's up he's up for good, unless he just shows he's nowhere close which I just don't see.

Like Seattle said, about a 50 game NHL season for him. He'll play in a bunch then sit out on or two to watch from the upper deck with the Hall of Famers and listen to them and be able to ask them questions and get coaching from them. Then get another 9-10 then sit another 2 or 3, etc etc.