Question about the 1st Pujols deal
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Re: Question about the 1st Pujols deal
Didn't E. Longoria get one of the earliest LT deals too?
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Spotrac has separate web pages showing historical pre-arbitration and arbitration extensions. Pujols was extended in February 2004 after his last pre-arb season so it's classified as an arbitration extension. You can sort by year. The notable arbitration extensions before Pujols were:
Jeter signed in 2001, 10 years $189 million (signed in last year of arbitration)
Todd Helton signed in 2004, 9 years $141 million (signed in last year of arbitration, he also had a 4 year pre-arb extension signed in 1999)
Ichiro signed in 2004, 4 years $44 million (I just mention this one because he was in the same rookie class as Pujols.
After Pujols the next $100+ million arbitration extension was Miguel Cabrera in 2008. 8 years $152 million
Pre-arbitration extensions: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/pre-arbitration/extensions
Arbitration extensions: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/arbitration/extensions
Jeter signed in 2001, 10 years $189 million (signed in last year of arbitration)
Todd Helton signed in 2004, 9 years $141 million (signed in last year of arbitration, he also had a 4 year pre-arb extension signed in 1999)
Ichiro signed in 2004, 4 years $44 million (I just mention this one because he was in the same rookie class as Pujols.
After Pujols the next $100+ million arbitration extension was Miguel Cabrera in 2008. 8 years $152 million
Pre-arbitration extensions: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/pre-arbitration/extensions
Arbitration extensions: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/arbitration/extensions
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Re: Question about the 1st Pujols deal
He signed a 6 year, $17.5 million contract in April 2008 with 24 days of service time.
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Thx fatslordoffatness wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:45 amHe signed a 6 year, $17.5 million contract in April 2008 with 24 days of service time.
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So well after Albert.
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He made more than President Hoover. When told that he said “I had a better year”. (NOT POLITICAL)ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 14:25 pm First ever multi-year might have been Babe Ruth in 1930. 2 years for $160,000.
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Re: Question about the 1st Pujols deal
Well that Longoria one sure meets the definition of cutting edge doesn't it.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:52 amThx fatslordoffatness wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:45 amHe signed a 6 year, $17.5 million contract in April 2008 with 24 days of service time.
https://www.mlb.com/news/earliest-contr ... c269677352
So well after Albert.
But given the info we have from lordoffatness and others, we can say the Pujols real was pretty special at the time. I would not stretch it to call Jocketty an "innovator" necessarily but I would say it was very forward thinking.
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And a brilliant move!imadangman wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 11:13 amWell that Longoria one sure meets the definition of cutting edge doesn't it.rockondlouie wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:52 amThx fatslordoffatness wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:45 amHe signed a 6 year, $17.5 million contract in April 2008 with 24 days of service time.
https://www.mlb.com/news/earliest-contr ... c269677352
So well after Albert.
But given the info we have from lordoffatness and others, we can say the Pujols real was pretty special at the time. I would not stretch it to call Jocketty an "innovator" necessarily but I would say it was very forward thinking.
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Re: Question about the 1st Pujols deal
My grandfather had nothing good to say about Hoover.Galatians221jb1 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 10:53 amHe made more than President Hoover. When told that he said “I had a better year”. (NOT POLITICAL)ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 14:25 pm First ever multi-year might have been Babe Ruth in 1930. 2 years for $160,000.
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Re: Question about the 1st Pujols deal
Not a seven year deal, but Sandy Alomar got a three year extension with an option after his second season. 1992imadangman wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025 14:03 pm I had wondered about this and maybe did a little research but not enough to answer for sure.
Was the pre-2004 Pujols extension the 1st of its type? It came before any of the massive, long-term pre-arb extensions we commonly see today.
Is there an example before Pujols of a player with 3 years of service time (or earlier) receiving an extension of 7 years or more?
That extension might have been the single best move of Jocketty's GM tenure.
Knoblauch signed a 5-year deal the same year, after only one season.