Prospect Points - STL vs Other NHL Cities

[theograce]

The clown that has over the years bumped more sad, narcissistic, vulgar, anti Blues player posts over the years, often to himself repeatedly, whole threads of them, commenting on others postings.

Rich.

Is this me following you?

You can’t even bet on yourself

Not sad…pathetic lol

[callitwhatyouwant]

The clown that has over the years bumped more sad, narcissistic, vulgar, anti Blues player posts over the years, often to himself repeatedly, whole threads of them, commenting on others postings.

Rich.

the bot has little bot syndrome. has to try and demean others to build it's botself up. really is sadge. It's OK tho. Maybe one day it's algorithm will be fixed and it will go hang out on a forum of a team it likes.

[seattleblue]

Sorry that my posts bother you. Blues Management bothers me, so I guess it's unavoidable.

it is avoidable unless you're an antisocial bag of [shirt]

I'm not anti-social.

I'm speaking for the people of St Louis that want to see elite players play here, in our uniform. I'm social with them.

You [shirt] in this social space nearly every day. You're an antisocial piece of [shirt] here. Genuinely you are thoroughgoing trash

[theograce]

The clown that has over the years bumped more sad, narcissistic, vulgar, anti Blues player posts over the years, often to himself repeatedly, whole threads of them, commenting on others postings.

Rich.

the bot has little bot syndrome. has to try and demean others to build it's botself up. really is sadge. It's OK tho. Maybe one day it's algorithm will be fixed and it will go hang out on a forum of a team it likes.

Deflecting away from your food talk and bumping garbage threads.

What a winner

[Nublues69]

And the only loss was a 3x3 overtime loss.

And only lost that one when they put in an undrafted 18 yr old goalie to see what he could do against this level.

Guys, there’s no point. You’re arguing with a cr@pping pigeon. Of course he arbitrarily didn’t include the drafts that would include Neighbours, Bolduc/Mailloux and Snuggerud lol.

I focused on the re-whatever results.

However, I would love to see the results of earlier drafts. That would be very insightful as well. If I have time, I will be very happy to do that. Better yet, I believe that it would be exceptionally revealing if you would do it. Show me what I am missing, man. Here's your great chance.

What you're missing?

Half a brain and a moderater staff that is looking to have a quality forum instead of wanting the page view numbers the trolls add.

Honestly I think the smell of green grass is the moderator. It corelates

You got me. Here is my full confession.

I am 3 things.

- I am Army's Sock Puppet,
- the 5th-cousin twice-removed of the Moderator's housekeeper, and
- I am always right.

A possible 2 out of three ain't bad.

i must have read that wrong cause i thought he said he banged his cousin...which makes sense. right

[Cahokanut]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

[Bluesfan1978]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

[a smell of green grass]

The point of this thread is to flush out what "young prospect" value the St Louis fans get from Army's draft selections.

Many models will award Army for "great drafting" if Bolduc goes on to greatness with Montreal. They consider that evidence of Army's wisdom.

In my mind, the points that Bolduc now scores in Montreal, has ZERO value to St Louis fans. I care only about the pucks that go in for the Blues.

Right now, the score is 0 to 489, I'll recalculate as the year goes on. Army has convinced the fans that waiting is a good thing and nothing to be concerned about. I want to make sure that the fans know what is happening on other teams.

[Nublues69]

The point of this thread is to flush out what "young prospect" value the St Louis fans get from Army's draft selections.

Many models will award Army for "great drafting" if Bolduc goes on to greatness with Montreal. They consider that evidence of Army's wisdom.

In my mind, the points that Bolduc now scores in Montreal, has ZERO value to St Louis fans. I care only about the pucks that go in for the Blues.

Right now, the score is 0 to 489, I'll recalculate as the year goes on. Army has convinced the fans that waiting is a good thing and nothing to be concerned about. I want to make sure that the fans know what is happening on other teams.

so anyone going to be hitting up Oktoberfest next weekend.

[Cahokanut]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

come on man. No team is able to trade fourth line grinders for top end talent.
Though glad to know you rather have say 20 prospects that possibly can fill a fourth line role. Then say 6 who can fill top minutes. Not me.

Also let's say I'm unfamiliar with New Jersey ability to trade Dags and a third for a Kyrou and be winners for a long period of time.
While I'm sure you won't explain what you're talking about. Could you send me in the direction you found this information.

Also. I can't tell you how to think. But is it wrong? Tell me how many teams won a cup without drafting top five in the years before. Vegas. But they were given a cup competitor. So, Is it over half the cup champions.....is it Zero.

One more thing.
Do those teams that don't "tank"(has a meaning. But not a thing)
Kinda hang out in, 'no man's land? Wonder what history says.

[seattleblue]

I thought we had it down to one. but I guess there's two? ok, two it is.

at least the CHL starts today and preseason starts tomorrow

[Bluesfan1978]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

come on man. No team is able to trade fourth line grinders for top end talent.
Though glad to know you rather have say 20 prospects that possibly can fill a fourth line role. Then say 6 who can fill top minutes. Not me.

Also let's say I'm unfamiliar with New Jersey ability to trade Dags and a third for a Kyrou and be winners for a long period of time.
While I'm sure you won't explain what you're talking about. Could you send me in the direction you found this information.

Also. I can't tell you how to think. But is it wrong? Tell me how many teams won a cup without drafting top five in the years before. Vegas. But they were given a cup competitor. So, Is it over half the cup champions.....is it Zero.

One more thing.
Do those teams that don't "tank"(has a meaning. But not a thing)
Kinda hang out in, 'no man's land? Wonder what history says.

Who mention 4th line grinders?
Research the Devils from the mid 90’s to about 2010. Lou was the gm.
The Devils drafted well, often knew who they were drafting ahead of time as far as for the first couple rounds and often maximized draft capital by knowing that.
Even the Devils eventually strayed away from what was working and began chasing to keep their window open too much and it cost them. You need to be able to move on from players ti keep the picks coming in.
As far as drafting players that fit your team when you draft a player like a Holloway, neighbours, Jaden Schwartz etc they aren’t 1st line or they don’t make the team players. They could play on any line and perform well.
Teams will always have a need for those players. Some teams will overpay for those players.
As far as not rebuilding so far the Blues are doing a great job on not tearing it to the grounds. Take much more than skill alone to build the right culture and I think they are going to be a team no one wants to play.

[Cahokanut]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

come on man. No team is able to trade fourth line grinders for top end talent.
Though glad to know you rather have say 20 prospects that possibly can fill a fourth line role. Then say 6 who can fill top minutes. Not me.

Also let's say I'm unfamiliar with New Jersey ability to trade Dags and a third for a Kyrou and be winners for a long period of time.
While I'm sure you won't explain what you're talking about. Could you send me in the direction you found this information.

Also. I can't tell you how to think. But is it wrong? Tell me how many teams won a cup without drafting top five in the years before. Vegas. But they were given a cup competitor. So, Is it over half the cup champions.....is it Zero.

One more thing.
Do those teams that don't "tank"(has a meaning. But not a thing)
Kinda hang out in, 'no man's land? Wonder what history says.

Who mention 4th line grinders?
Research the Devils from the mid 90’s to about 2010. Lou was the gm.
The Devils drafted well, often knew who they were drafting ahead of time as far as for the first couple rounds and often maximized draft capital by knowing that.
Even the Devils eventually strayed away from what was working and began chasing to keep their window open too much and it cost them. You need to be able to move on from players ti keep the picks coming in.
As far as drafting players that fit your team when you draft a player like a Holloway, neighbours, Jaden Schwartz etc they aren’t 1st line or they don’t make the team players. They could play on any line and perform well.
Teams will always have a need for those players. Some teams will overpay for those players.
As far as not rebuilding so far the Blues are doing a great job on not tearing it to the grounds. Take much more than skill alone to build the right culture and I think they are going to be a team no one wants to play.

What do you mean who mentioned fourth line grinders.
The post you decide to respond to was about "fourth line grinders" So, I don't it.

You even concluded you would rather have a prospect pool full of FLG.

The Devil's draft a goaltender at 20oa at the beginning of the Era and thats what defined that era. In the end it was that goaltender getting old that ended that era.
NJ then "tanked" or wasn't very good long enough to hit big back in the top of the draft. Just like 91

The devil's drafts in the 90s was less then good. A3oa payed off big, others I'm sure, a couple players who played their careers elsewhere. But I can't see this drafting genus you do. Though I stopped "researching" way before 2010. Because nothing was true through 97 and in the end, even with a hof 3oa, it's goaltending.

None of the Blues stuff made sense. I'll just say. We didn't draft Holloway

[Harry S Deals]

This is a stupid debate the Blues have drafted AND developed very very well

Top line talent:
Thompson Thomas, Kyrou, Snuggerud

Top 6 caliber
Neighbours, Bolduc, Dvo, Stenberg

Look at Parayko, 3rd rnd right? Now he's one of the top RHD in the NHL.
It goes on and on Binnington, HOFer
Tucker, Torop,

And where the Blues needed to fill holes they've done so expertly Holloway, Broberg, Mailloux

I just made Smell My (donkey) my [redacted] right in front of his wife and kids and Ive done it again and again disproving the dumb Top 5 nonsense.

[Bluesfan1978]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

come on man. No team is able to trade fourth line grinders for top end talent.
Though glad to know you rather have say 20 prospects that possibly can fill a fourth line role. Then say 6 who can fill top minutes. Not me.

Also let's say I'm unfamiliar with New Jersey ability to trade Dags and a third for a Kyrou and be winners for a long period of time.
While I'm sure you won't explain what you're talking about. Could you send me in the direction you found this information.

Also. I can't tell you how to think. But is it wrong? Tell me how many teams won a cup without drafting top five in the years before. Vegas. But they were given a cup competitor. So, Is it over half the cup champions.....is it Zero.

One more thing.
Do those teams that don't "tank"(has a meaning. But not a thing)
Kinda hang out in, 'no man's land? Wonder what history says.

Who mention 4th line grinders?
Research the Devils from the mid 90’s to about 2010. Lou was the gm.
The Devils drafted well, often knew who they were drafting ahead of time as far as for the first couple rounds and often maximized draft capital by knowing that.
Even the Devils eventually strayed away from what was working and began chasing to keep their window open too much and it cost them. You need to be able to move on from players ti keep the picks coming in.
As far as drafting players that fit your team when you draft a player like a Holloway, neighbours, Jaden Schwartz etc they aren’t 1st line or they don’t make the team players. They could play on any line and perform well.
Teams will always have a need for those players. Some teams will overpay for those players.
As far as not rebuilding so far the Blues are doing a great job on not tearing it to the grounds. Take much more than skill alone to build the right culture and I think they are going to be a team no one wants to play.

What do you mean who mentioned fourth line grinders.
The post you decide to respond to was about "fourth line grinders" So, I don't it.

You even concluded you would rather have a prospect pool full of FLG.

The Devil's draft a goaltender at 20oa at the beginning of the Era and thats what defined that era. In the end it was that goaltender getting old that ended that era.
NJ then "tanked" or wasn't very good long enough to hit big back in the top of the draft. Just like 91

The devil's drafts in the 90s was less then good. A3oa payed off big, others I'm sure, a couple players who played their careers elsewhere. But I can't see this drafting genus you do. Though I stopped "researching" way before 2010. Because nothing was true through 97 and in the end, even with a hof 3oa, it's goaltending.

None of the Blues stuff made sense. I'll just say. We didn't draft Holloway

Yeah you’re right. If drafting 3 HOF’s in less than 5 years doesn’t meet your standards I guess nothing will. I won’t respond to any more of the posts you make. Go BLUES

[Cahokanut]

Army looks for guys that can play the fourth line. He then drafts the most talented players available.(Outside the three drafts, when the team was catching up to the, 'new league)

Many of the forums hockey experts like to have it both ways when it comes to prospect. Personally. Id rather use a pick on one who probably won't work out but if so, will be a top line, deep draft steal, then a fourth line grinder.

That four ranking from the network wasn't as glowing as some think.
Yes we have many that could make the nhl and fortune enough to still have five first rd picks, still available for rank.
But not many that project to play top minutes and none except to play elite minutes.

What's for sure is Army is better at convincing trolls, then being a gm. As every job a gm does. Has sloped towards the negative. Outside of those five months that one year.

I’ll take the most likely NHL player that fits the type of players you want on your team. Can always package players later as long as you develop them. This model worked for the Devils for almost 2 decades.
I also think if done correctly you shouldn’t really need to rebuild. No short term rentals and stay away from the trade deadline.

come on man. No team is able to trade fourth line grinders for top end talent.
Though glad to know you rather have say 20 prospects that possibly can fill a fourth line role. Then say 6 who can fill top minutes. Not me.

Also let's say I'm unfamiliar with New Jersey ability to trade Dags and a third for a Kyrou and be winners for a long period of time.
While I'm sure you won't explain what you're talking about. Could you send me in the direction you found this information.

Also. I can't tell you how to think. But is it wrong? Tell me how many teams won a cup without drafting top five in the years before. Vegas. But they were given a cup competitor. So, Is it over half the cup champions.....is it Zero.

One more thing.
Do those teams that don't "tank"(has a meaning. But not a thing)
Kinda hang out in, 'no man's land? Wonder what history says.

Who mention 4th line grinders?
Research the Devils from the mid 90’s to about 2010. Lou was the gm.
The Devils drafted well, often knew who they were drafting ahead of time as far as for the first couple rounds and often maximized draft capital by knowing that.
Even the Devils eventually strayed away from what was working and began chasing to keep their window open too much and it cost them. You need to be able to move on from players ti keep the picks coming in.
As far as drafting players that fit your team when you draft a player like a Holloway, neighbours, Jaden Schwartz etc they aren’t 1st line or they don’t make the team players. They could play on any line and perform well.
Teams will always have a need for those players. Some teams will overpay for those players.
As far as not rebuilding so far the Blues are doing a great job on not tearing it to the grounds. Take much more than skill alone to build the right culture and I think they are going to be a team no one wants to play.

What do you mean who mentioned fourth line grinders.
The post you decide to respond to was about "fourth line grinders" So, I don't it.

You even concluded you would rather have a prospect pool full of FLG.

The Devil's draft a goaltender at 20oa at the beginning of the Era and thats what defined that era. In the end it was that goaltender getting old that ended that era.
NJ then "tanked" or wasn't very good long enough to hit big back in the top of the draft. Just like 91

The devil's drafts in the 90s was less then good. A3oa payed off big, others I'm sure, a couple players who played their careers elsewhere. But I can't see this drafting genus you do. Though I stopped "researching" way before 2010. Because nothing was true through 97 and in the end, even with a hof 3oa, it's goaltending.

None of the Blues stuff made sense. I'll just say. We didn't draft Holloway

Yeah you’re right. If drafting 3 HOF’s in less than 5 years doesn’t meet your standards I guess nothing will. I won’t respond to any more of the posts you make. Go BLUES

Holy [shirt]. What a road to travel. Went from me saying "deep draft steal to 3oa, top 10 and a goalie took at 20oa.
None of this makes any sense.