Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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Re: Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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Burleson is a good hitter, but...

He is a poor baserunner, a poor fielder in OF, and he is too much of a free swinger (walk rate too low).

He is a good 6th or 7th place hitter on a good team.

Not a 3 hole hitter.
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Re: Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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Shady,he's in top 10 now!
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Shady wrote: 17 Sep 2025 15:20 pm That Burleson could be a top three hitter in the National League?
So 40 HR? Neither him or Hererra should be in the field. DH only. Both too slow for a team the must be built on speed and defense since they won’t pay for power and cannot develop it.
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Youboughtit wrote: 18 Sep 2025 17:26 pm
Shady wrote: 17 Sep 2025 15:20 pm That Burleson could be a top three hitter in the National League?
So 40 HR? Neither him or Hererra should be in the field. DH only. Both too slow for a team the must be built on speed and defense since they won’t pay for power and cannot develop it.
Burleson is coming into his prime. 25 to 30 HRs, at some point for him, is not out of the question. That, with around 80 to 85 RBIs with about a .285 to .290 BA seem achievable for him. If achieved, that would be worthy of being an All Star.
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Certainly top 10. Currently 8th in BA and 19th in OPS. Fewer strikeouts than the 18 ahead of him in OPS.

Unfortunately he was 5th or lower in the batting order 151 at bats.
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Re: Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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I’m making out my top 3 list and I’m not sure if Burly goes ahead or behind Ohtani. It’s so close.
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Re: Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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OldRed wrote: 18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average
Have you compared his actual production numbers in relation to PA’s? Aaron Miles hit .317 one year
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Youboughtit wrote: 18 Sep 2025 17:26 pm
Shady wrote: 17 Sep 2025 15:20 pm That Burleson could be a top three hitter in the National League?
So 40 HR? Neither him or Hererra should be in the field. DH only. Both too slow for a team the must be built on speed and defense since they won’t pay for power and cannot develop it.
No one knows what Horton meant by his statements I don’t think he meant burly will hit 40 home runs I think he was talking about top three hitters in batting average which I think he could probably do one day he’s 8th right now and in a couple of years someone will probably lead the league in batting with a .290+ batting average
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 19 Sep 2025 08:01 am
Youboughtit wrote: 18 Sep 2025 17:26 pm
Shady wrote: 17 Sep 2025 15:20 pm That Burleson could be a top three hitter in the National League?
So 40 HR? Neither him or Hererra should be in the field. DH only. Both too slow for a team the must be built on speed and defense since they won’t pay for power and cannot develop it.
No one knows what Horton meant by his statements I don’t think he meant burly will hit 40 home runs I think he was talking about top three hitters in batting average which I think he could probably do one day he’s 8th right now and in a couple of years someone will probably lead the league in batting with a .290+ batting average
That player is great but not on this team. They need power at his only playable positions because of lack of slug everywhere else. 1B LF RF need 30-40 HR types and Hererra likely blocking DH
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Re: Did Ricky Horton just say what I thought he said about Burleson?

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rockondlouie wrote: 18 Sep 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: 18 Sep 2025 12:00 pm
OldRed wrote: 18 Sep 2025 11:14 am Well, he is 8th in the NL.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/national-leag ... ng-average
Burleson is putting together another productive season. And he's trending upward going into next season. As opposed to last season.
Nope, not trending "upward".

1st Half
.293 .340 .466 .805

2nd Half
.273 .335 .455 .790

But much better than 2025 fall off.

His conditioning is terrible, needs to drop 25 lbs.
Spot on...
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Burleson now 3rd in the NL in batting average was Horton looking into a crystal ball? lol
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Sep 2025 23:57 pm Burleson now 3rd in the NL in batting average was Horton looking into a crystal ball? lol
True it is. #3 in NL. This cannot be denied. Burly can hit. 293 is the new 330. He consistently puts the bat on the ball, sadly, that's a lost skill with the way pitchers can throw the ball today.
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Ricky might end up being right!
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What's this about Burleson being a possibility for the Silver Slugger Award? I couldn't pull up the article. Somebody please fill me in.
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Shady wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:04 am What's this about Burleson being a possibility for the Silver Slugger Award? I couldn't pull up the article. Somebody please fill me in.
What's the link?
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