If Girardi were the 2025 Cardinals manager

[JuanAgosto]

Out of the game for 3 years. Why not compare him to Ozzie Guillen? Similar resume and out of the game for a while.

3 years and 13 years are a big difference.

Try again….

Both won WS. And Guillen arguably got more out of his rosters. Hes still close to the game. And relatively young.

Cool dude.

How does that support your assertion?

No assertion. Im asking a question that you are avoiding. Simply pointing out Guillen's time away from the game is not an answer. He and Girardi are one year apart in age. Have similar resumes. And both have been away from the game. Guillen is probably the better manager. So why not use Guillen as a comparison?

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

[ecleme22]

3 years and 13 years are a big difference.

Try again….

Both won WS. And Guillen arguably got more out of his rosters. Hes still close to the game. And relatively young.

Cool dude.

How does that support your assertion?

No assertion. Im asking a question that you are avoiding. Simply pointing out Guillen's time away from the game is not an answer. He and Girardi are one year apart in age. Have similar resumes. And both have been away from the game. Guillen is probably the better manager. So why not use Guillen as a comparison?

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

[JuanAgosto]

Both won WS. And Guillen arguably got more out of his rosters. Hes still close to the game. And relatively young.

Cool dude.

How does that support your assertion?

No assertion. Im asking a question that you are avoiding. Simply pointing out Guillen's time away from the game is not an answer. He and Girardi are one year apart in age. Have similar resumes. And both have been away from the game. Guillen is probably the better manager. So why not use Guillen as a comparison?

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

[ecleme22]

Cool dude.

How does that support your assertion?

No assertion. Im asking a question that you are avoiding. Simply pointing out Guillen's time away from the game is not an answer. He and Girardi are one year apart in age. Have similar resumes. And both have been away from the game. Guillen is probably the better manager. So why not use Guillen as a comparison?

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

[alw80]

...and had a 72-75 record compared to the Pythagoreanan 69-78, and doing it with a FO that divested in the team last offseason, Mr. Girardi would be so celebrated on Cards Talk.

"Just give'em a good roster to work with!"


I want Bloom to change managers in 2026. I think we need a fresh approach. But unlike many CTers, I don't think 99% of the issues on the 2025 team are a result of Marmol's mismanagement.

If Girardi were manager I suspect this team would be over .500. But play your fantasy games all you want.

Of course you do, you dont have a clue as to what youre talking about.

I suppose I don't, because it's ecleme22's fantasy, not mine. I'm just trying to inject some reality into it.

Reality is that Girardi isn't a good manager and there is no way in hell hed have this group of misfits over .500.

Girardi is a former Manager of the Year and World Champion. Still a lot better than Marmol.

BFD, Ned Yost won a WS too and hes an awful manager as well. You dont have a [fork]ing clue as to what youre talking about.

I'd still take either Yorst or Girardi over Marmol. I don't know why this means so much to you.

Of course you would, you're an idiot.

[BrummerStealsHome]

...and had a 72-75 record compared to the Pythagoreanan 69-78, and doing it with a FO that divested in the team last offseason, Mr. Girardi would be so celebrated on Cards Talk.

"Just give'em a good roster to work with!"


I want Bloom to change managers in 2026. I think we need a fresh approach. But unlike many CTers, I don't think 99% of the issues on the 2025 team are a result of Marmol's mismanagement.

If Girardi were manager I suspect this team would be over .500. But play your fantasy games all you want.

Of course you do, you dont have a clue as to what youre talking about.

I suppose I don't, because it's ecleme22's fantasy, not mine. I'm just trying to inject some reality into it.

Reality is that Girardi isn't a good manager and there is no way in hell hed have this group of misfits over .500.

Girardi is a former Manager of the Year and World Champion. Still a lot better than Marmol.

BFD, Ned Yost won a WS too and hes an awful manager as well. You dont have a [fork]ing clue as to what youre talking about.

I'd still take either Yorst or Girardi over Marmol. I don't know why this means so much to you.

Of course you would, you're an idiot.

I'm glad you think so.

[JuanAgosto]

No assertion. Im asking a question that you are avoiding. Simply pointing out Guillen's time away from the game is not an answer. He and Girardi are one year apart in age. Have similar resumes. And both have been away from the game. Guillen is probably the better manager. So why not use Guillen as a comparison?

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

[ecleme22]

Why not use Girardi?

He’s only been away from the game 3+ years, was a WS champ and team leader.

Why shouldn’t Girardi be used in this example?

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

So you’re wondering why I didn’t use Guillen in my OP because you mentioned him after I wrote the OP?

Lol. You grasping at straws. “Why didn’t you mention Ozzie Guillen in your OP??!!” How random…

[JuanAgosto]

Just a random guy to use since he's been out a while.

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

So you’re wondering why I didn’t use Guillen in my OP because you mentioned him after I wrote the OP?

Lol. You grasping at straws. “Why didn’t you mention Ozzie Guillen in your OP??!!” How random…

You have real reading comprehension problems. I asked why you picked one random guy who had been discussed. Several others have been mentioned, but you singled out one. You have failed to provide an answer to that simple question.

I mentioned Guillen because he was very similar. Nowhere did I question why you didn't use him. You took issue because he had been away from the game for a while. Yet your choice had been also.

Try reading very slowly. Maybe have someone else read it and explain so you understand.

[ecleme22]

3 1/2 years isn’t a while.

Girardi has been talked about on this forum a lot in the past.

Your attempt to come up with a better option was Guillen? A guy who last managed in Obama’s first term. Lol

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

So you’re wondering why I didn’t use Guillen in my OP because you mentioned him after I wrote the OP?

Lol. You grasping at straws. “Why didn’t you mention Ozzie Guillen in your OP??!!” How random…

You have real reading comprehension problems. I asked why you picked one random guy who had been discussed. Several others have been mentioned, but you singled out one. You have failed to provide an answer to that simple question.

I mentioned Guillen because he was very similar. Nowhere did I question why you didn't use him. You took issue because he had been away from the game for a while. Yet your choice had been also.

Try reading very slowly. Maybe have someone else read it and explain so you understand.

You: “Why did you pick this random manager and not that random manager?”

I think it’s great you mentioned Guillen, but he’s been away from the game 13 years. And if you know about math, 3.5 years is different than 13 years. Also, you have admitted that Girardi has been mentioned on CT.

So in my OP, I used a manager who managed as recently as 2022 and has been discussed on CT.

So…what’s your beef?

[Basil Shabazz]

Nauseating

[ecleme22]

Nauseating

Grasping at straws still?

[Basil Shabazz]

Nauseating

Grasping at straws still?

Not at all. It’s just common place for any thread you are involved in to turn into childish and endless back and forth drivel devoid of any meaningful content.

You are typically the common denominator when this happens.

Congratulations.

[ecleme22]

Nauseating

Grasping at straws still?

Not at all. It’s just common place for any thread you are involved in to turn into childish and endless back and forth drivel devoid of any meaningful content.

You are typically the common denominator when this happens.

Congratulations.

Let’s see. I’m currently on two threads, both of which you have gone after me unprovoked.

When it comes to ‘childish’ maybe look in the mirror, bud.

Also, I love living in your head…

[JuanAgosto]

Girardi was mentioned on here as a possible replacement for Shildt 4 years ago. Nobody has been talking about him since. And I mentioned a guy with an almost identical resume, age, and availability. But you contradict your own reasoning. If 4 years is ok, why isn't 13? Especially when there is so little difference in age and resume?

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

So you’re wondering why I didn’t use Guillen in my OP because you mentioned him after I wrote the OP?

Lol. You grasping at straws. “Why didn’t you mention Ozzie Guillen in your OP??!!” How random…

You have real reading comprehension problems. I asked why you picked one random guy who had been discussed. Several others have been mentioned, but you singled out one. You have failed to provide an answer to that simple question.

I mentioned Guillen because he was very similar. Nowhere did I question why you didn't use him. You took issue because he had been away from the game for a while. Yet your choice had been also.

Try reading very slowly. Maybe have someone else read it and explain so you understand.

You: “Why did you pick this random manager and not that random manager?”

I think it’s great you mentioned Guillen, but he’s been away from the game 13 years. And if you know about math, 3.5 years is different than 13 years. Also, you have admitted that Girardi has been mentioned on CT.

So in my OP, I used a manager who managed as recently as 2022 and has been discussed on CT.

So…what’s your beef?

I dont have a beef. I asked why you chose that one guy. Got no straight answer. So I posed another name and you blew it off because he'd been out of the game too long. So I posed another name. You admitted that guy was a name that could've been considered. You were the one who got offended and claimed 'straw man' and such.

[ecleme22]

Girardi was the manager of the Phillies when Shildt was fired. Okay, bud?

I recall some chatter about Girardi on CT in 2023. But of course not right after Shildt was fired. Get your facts right.

And I never said 13 years was not okay. Please, by all means write an OP about Guillen being manager in 2025 instead of Oli.

Not sure why you are even making this argument.

Im not making an argument for Guillen to manage. I asked why not use him instead. Keep up.

Okay.

We both agree Girardi was talked about on CT in the last 2-3 years, right?

We can agree that JG hasn’t managed in 13 years and JoeG 3.5, right?

And we can both agree that they are neck and neck as far as being formidable managers in their tenure, right?

So why is it weird I chose Girardi?

Because you pull one name out of several people mentioned in this forum. I throw a name in with a similar resume and you act like it's foolish. So here's another name. Dusty Baker. Better resume than Girardi. More recently a manager. And mentioned much more on here than Joe Girardi.

The foolishness comes not from you mentioning Guillen, but from you being beside yourself on why I would use girardi in my OP and not Guillen. It’s weird.

And I guess I could’ve used Baker, but he’s been retired for a while. And he’s more of a players manager, unlike Girardi.

Boy, basil shabaz has sure sent you on a wild goose chase. lol

Not beside myself at all. I just asked a question and was not getting a legitimate answer. Just thought it was weird you singled out one guy's name out of several that have been mentioned over the past couple years.

I don’t recall OG’s name ever being mentioned on here. At least not in the last decade.

This is what we call grasping at straws, bud. Look it up.

I mentioned it, dumb[ash]. As a comparison to your name drop. Good grief. You have nothing other than avoiding the original question.

So you’re wondering why I didn’t use Guillen in my OP because you mentioned him after I wrote the OP?

Lol. You grasping at straws. “Why didn’t you mention Ozzie Guillen in your OP??!!” How random…

You have real reading comprehension problems. I asked why you picked one random guy who had been discussed. Several others have been mentioned, but you singled out one. You have failed to provide an answer to that simple question.

I mentioned Guillen because he was very similar. Nowhere did I question why you didn't use him. You took issue because he had been away from the game for a while. Yet your choice had been also.

Try reading very slowly. Maybe have someone else read it and explain so you understand.

You: “Why did you pick this random manager and not that random manager?”

I think it’s great you mentioned Guillen, but he’s been away from the game 13 years. And if you know about math, 3.5 years is different than 13 years. Also, you have admitted that Girardi has been mentioned on CT.

So in my OP, I used a manager who managed as recently as 2022 and has been discussed on CT.

So…what’s your beef?

I dont have a beef. I asked why you chose that one guy. Got no straight answer. So I posed another name and you blew it off because he'd been out of the game too long. So I posed another name. You admitted that guy was a name that could've been considered. You were the one who got offended and claimed 'straw man' and such.

You asked me if I wrote OPs like this one when Matheny and Shildt were managers. Funny question.

Later I said if you wanted to write an OP about Guillen, that would be cool.

I haven't been offended at all. I find it funny you're like 'why not Guillen?' Then you're like, 'why not Baker?'

LOL. So random.