The Best thing that ever happened to Eli Drinkwitz

[TheSolution]

Solution sure likes to cherry pick his stats.

And, when he's called on it, he conveniently changes the parameters.

No parameters were changed on my end, in fact you changed the parameters by omitting part of what I said.

You cherry picked the comment about the inherited defense while omitting the part about MO passing legislation advantages for in-state NIL.

Ethics are important.

MIZ

[TheSolution]

You know this psychotic poster fixating on the worst HC MU has had in modern times and a total failure in coaching up his D which is his specialty

Barry obviously isn’t the worst coach in Mizzou’s modern times. That’s an unreadable statement that I assume is sarcasm and exaggerated for effect.

For fun we’ll take a look, Barry was 25-25 after taking over one of the most unprecedented situations in college football and a team that went 1-7 in the SEC in 2015 under Pinkel.

Barry got his team above .500 in year 2 and then won 8 games in year 3. And in an era with no NIL to lure in-state players or transfer portal to flip a bad culture quickly.

It took Drink until year 4 to break the .500 barrier and a huge part of it was the defensive core that had matured from HS signees to upper classmen on defense, NIL, AND of course the decision to hire an OC after 3 years of sub .500 play as he failed in every conceivable way as a coordinator.

Gary Pinkel didn’t have a winning record in the Big12 until year 7!

Bob Stull went 15-38.

here he hyped up his team biggly and then went out to WY and got spanked by a mediocre team. He lost games because of a poor D and hiring an idiot for a DC who was his buddy but didn't know what he was doing at that time.

Mizzou won coming off an 8 win season in 2018 and a big national recruiting battle victory for prized Clemson QB Kelly Bryant and a 1st Team All-SEC captain at MLB on defense. It’s a shame Kelly Bryant, who lots of teams would have welcomed at QB1 that year, turned out to be a very bad teammate and the teams primarily leader and most important cog on defense at MLB who was on pace for an All-American season with 2 SEC Defensive Player Of The Week awards in 5 weeks was lost for the season in week 5. The team still managed to go 6-6 in a transition/bridge year at QB and missing its most important player on defense.

Eli finally recognized that he wasn't very good at what was supposed to be HIS specialty, running an offense and brought in a young smart guy.

After 3 seasons under .500 with many eye-test moments that Drink failed as the OC he hired someone who could do what he so desperately wanted to build his coaching brand around — like a Gus Malzahn (mentor).

Barry was dealing with a national spotlight of racism at the University of Missouri that resulted in dorms closing because of lack of enrollment, so he hired two young black DC’s in his 4 years that he would obviously heavily oversee as a veteran DC himself. Knocking him for hiring these guys shows some ignorance to the overall situation. One could praise Barry for using a fast, record breaking offense to help entertain fans and bring excitement to a program that needed it (ala HR era in MLB after lockout killed fan interest) and at the expense of not making life easy on a defense that needed an overhaul of talent to match the intended schemes of Odom.

as far as the dude living in a bizzaro world past of his own creation

If anything that I’ve shared isn’t true, accurate or reasonable please point those specific things out.

Hope you all have had a great Labor Day weekend.

MIZ

You are without question full of [shirt].

I don't need to write multiple amounts of paragraphs explaining to anyone why.

There isn’t one thing in there that’s full of shirt.
Not one emotional or subjective point.
Just casual, easy dialogue that upends what you said.
You don’t have to recognize it.

ZOU

[11WSChamps]

You know this psychotic poster fixating on the worst HC MU has had in modern times and a total failure in coaching up his D which is his specialty

Barry obviously isn’t the worst coach in Mizzou’s modern times. That’s an unreadable statement that I assume is sarcasm and exaggerated for effect.

For fun we’ll take a look, Barry was 25-25 after taking over one of the most unprecedented situations in college football and a team that went 1-7 in the SEC in 2015 under Pinkel.

Barry got his team above .500 in year 2 and then won 8 games in year 3. And in an era with no NIL to lure in-state players or transfer portal to flip a bad culture quickly.

It took Drink until year 4 to break the .500 barrier and a huge part of it was the defensive core that had matured from HS signees to upper classmen on defense, NIL, AND of course the decision to hire an OC after 3 years of sub .500 play as he failed in every conceivable way as a coordinator.

Gary Pinkel didn’t have a winning record in the Big12 until year 7!

Bob Stull went 15-38.

here he hyped up his team biggly and then went out to WY and got spanked by a mediocre team. He lost games because of a poor D and hiring an idiot for a DC who was his buddy but didn't know what he was doing at that time.

Mizzou won coming off an 8 win season in 2018 and a big national recruiting battle victory for prized Clemson QB Kelly Bryant and a 1st Team All-SEC captain at MLB on defense. It’s a shame Kelly Bryant, who lots of teams would have welcomed at QB1 that year, turned out to be a very bad teammate and the teams primarily leader and most important cog on defense at MLB who was on pace for an All-American season with 2 SEC Defensive Player Of The Week awards in 5 weeks was lost for the season in week 5. The team still managed to go 6-6 in a transition/bridge year at QB and missing its most important player on defense.

Eli finally recognized that he wasn't very good at what was supposed to be HIS specialty, running an offense and brought in a young smart guy.

After 3 seasons under .500 with many eye-test moments that Drink failed as the OC he hired someone who could do what he so desperately wanted to build his coaching brand around — like a Gus Malzahn (mentor).

Barry was dealing with a national spotlight of racism at the University of Missouri that resulted in dorms closing because of lack of enrollment, so he hired two young black DC’s in his 4 years that he would obviously heavily oversee as a veteran DC himself. Knocking him for hiring these guys shows some ignorance to the overall situation. One could praise Barry for using a fast, record breaking offense to help entertain fans and bring excitement to a program that needed it (ala HR era in MLB after lockout killed fan interest) and at the expense of not making life easy on a defense that needed an overhaul of talent to match the intended schemes of Odom.

as far as the dude living in a bizzaro world past of his own creation

If anything that I’ve shared isn’t true, accurate or reasonable please point those specific things out.

Hope you all have had a great Labor Day weekend.

MIZ

You are without question full of [shirt].

I don't need to write multiple amounts of paragraphs explaining to anyone why.

There isn’t one thing in there that’s full of shirt.
Not one emotional or subjective point.
Just casual, easy dialogue that upends what you said.
You don’t have to recognize it.

ZOU

You're delusional.

Completely.

[icon]

You know this psychotic poster fixating on the worst HC MU has had in modern times and a total failure in coaching up his D which is his specialty

Barry obviously isn’t the worst coach in Mizzou’s modern times. That’s an unreadable statement that I assume is sarcasm and exaggerated for effect.

For fun we’ll take a look, Barry was 25-25 after taking over one of the most unprecedented situations in college football and a team that went 1-7 in the SEC in 2015 under Pinkel.

Barry got his team above .500 in year 2 and then won 8 games in year 3. And in an era with no NIL to lure in-state players or transfer portal to flip a bad culture quickly.

It took Drink until year 4 to break the .500 barrier and a huge part of it was the defensive core that had matured from HS signees to upper classmen on defense, NIL, AND of course the decision to hire an OC after 3 years of sub .500 play as he failed in every conceivable way as a coordinator.

Gary Pinkel didn’t have a winning record in the Big12 until year 7!

Bob Stull went 15-38.

here he hyped up his team biggly and then went out to WY and got spanked by a mediocre team. He lost games because of a poor D and hiring an idiot for a DC who was his buddy but didn't know what he was doing at that time.

Mizzou won coming off an 8 win season in 2018 and a big national recruiting battle victory for prized Clemson QB Kelly Bryant and a 1st Team All-SEC captain at MLB on defense. It’s a shame Kelly Bryant, who lots of teams would have welcomed at QB1 that year, turned out to be a very bad teammate and the teams primarily leader and most important cog on defense at MLB who was on pace for an All-American season with 2 SEC Defensive Player Of The Week awards in 5 weeks was lost for the season in week 5. The team still managed to go 6-6 in a transition/bridge year at QB and missing its most important player on defense.

Eli finally recognized that he wasn't very good at what was supposed to be HIS specialty, running an offense and brought in a young smart guy.

After 3 seasons under .500 with many eye-test moments that Drink failed as the OC he hired someone who could do what he so desperately wanted to build his coaching brand around — like a Gus Malzahn (mentor).

Barry was dealing with a national spotlight of racism at the University of Missouri that resulted in dorms closing because of lack of enrollment, so he hired two young black DC’s in his 4 years that he would obviously heavily oversee as a veteran DC himself. Knocking him for hiring these guys shows some ignorance to the overall situation. One could praise Barry for using a fast, record breaking offense to help entertain fans and bring excitement to a program that needed it (ala HR era in MLB after lockout killed fan interest) and at the expense of not making life easy on a defense that needed an overhaul of talent to match the intended schemes of Odom.

as far as the dude living in a bizzaro world past of his own creation

If anything that I’ve shared isn’t true, accurate or reasonable please point those specific things out.

Hope you all have had a great Labor Day weekend.

MIZ

You are without question full of [shirt].

I don't need to write multiple amounts of paragraphs explaining to anyone why.

There isn’t one thing in there that’s full of shirt.
Not one emotional or subjective point.
Just casual, easy dialogue that upends what you said.
You don’t have to recognize it.

ZOU

You're delusional.

Completely.

And pretending he's a Missouri fan when you know he's rooting hard for Drink to fail. What a bitter loser and fraud living in the past with the legendary Barry Odom.

[TheSolution]

You're delusional.

Completely.

People can read and this will be here for reference material in the future.

On the bright side, Mr., this Odom stuff can go on hold for this big week.

FKU

[hangman]

Solution sure likes to cherry pick his stats.

And, when he's called on it, he conveniently changes the parameters.

No parameters were changed on my end, in fact you changed the parameters by omitting part of what I said.

You cherry picked the comment about the inherited defense while omitting the part about MO passing legislation advantages for in-state NIL.

Ethics are important.

MIZ

You do realize the EVERY school has NIL. It's not a special advantage that Drink/Mizzou have. You changed your argument when I called you out on it. Why only post Drink's first three years? Why not compare the overall record for FOUR years? Is is because Barry was .500 and Drink's 4th year we were 11-2? By the way, Drink sits at a .619 winning percentage. Something Odom only dreams about.

[TheSolution]

You do realize the EVERY school has NIL. It's not a special advantage that Drink/Mizzou have.

The point you’re misrepresenting is on page 1 in my original post, here’s the quote: “Doesn’t hurt to get a head start on some NIL advantages with Missouri’s legislation decisions a few years ago” .

If you were a Mizzou fan you should know the state passed legislation that gave Missouri a bit of a unique advantage, especially for in-state players. That is what is being referred to here, not NIL in general.

You changed your argument when I called you out on it. Why only post Drink's first three years?

No argument was changed, a half a page worth of commentary in my original post touches on other things Drink benefited from aside from a nice stock of gems in Barry’s final HS recruiting classes, obviously that includes the quote on in-state NIL I shared in this post.

Ethics matter
Character matters

MIZ

[hangman]

You do realize the EVERY school has NIL. It's not a special advantage that Drink/Mizzou have.

The point you’re misrepresenting is on page 1 in my original post, here’s the quote: “Doesn’t hurt to get a head start on some NIL advantages with Missouri’s legislation decisions a few years ago” .

If you were a Mizzou fan you should know the state passed legislation that gave Missouri a bit of a unique advantage, especially for in-state players. That is what is being referred to here, not NIL in general.

You changed your argument when I called you out on it. Why only post Drink's first three years?

No argument was changed, a half a page worth of commentary in my original post touches on other things Drink benefited from aside from a nice stock of gems in Barry’s final HS recruiting classes, obviously that includes the quote on in-state NIL I shared in this post.

Ethics matter
Character matters

MIZ

Did Barry ever have a top 25 recruiting class? Drink had one this year. AND you conveniently avoided Odom's ENTIRE 4 year coaching record because, in HIS 4th year, Drink was 11-2.

But you keep doing you Mrs. Odom.

[TheSolution]

you conveniently avoided Odom's ENTIRE 4 year coaching record because, in HIS 4th year, Drink was 11-2.

What you’re referencing is a conversation with another poster regarding who the worst Mizzou Football coach has been in modern times.

In my response to that poster, I mentioned it took Drink until year 4 to break the .500 mark as a point on perspective, Gary Pinkel was also mentioned, as it took him 7 years to break .500 in the Big 12. That dialogue had nothing to do with comparing Odom and Drink 1v1, nor did it obviously have anything to do with comparing their records. Bob Stull was also mentioned in that response.

This is now the second time I’ve explained this to you, what you’re saying makes zero sense given this context.