STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
A couple things here my man, number one an apology. When you first showed up, I accused you of being a sock account and a troll. Neither are true obviously. I also got angry because I mistook some things you said to mean, that if the Blues didn't blow it up they were wasting our time as fans. I said some things in that exchange that I shouldn't have, and I'm sorry. You have a depth of knowledge I will never have and I'm glad you share it with us here. The reason I reacted that way is because even though ASOGG is special (more on that), he wasn't alone that we had multiple short term trolls who came in here acting like they knew everything and anyone who didn't agree that it HAD to be torn down to get multiple Top 5 picks (The one guy coined the term "Superhumans") was a sheep that knew nothing about hockey. It was a pretty bleak time as a fan, again my apologies.
The other is ASOGG and I'll tell you that one goes back to the stone age here. Don't know how long you lurked, but, there was another forum here for the news side called Current Affairs and it was an unmoderated [shirt] show. I honestly think what killed it was the possibilty that an advertiser would find out that their ads surrounded a discussion of how the US Army should use attack helicopters to slaughter migrants with machine guns en masse before they could get here. ASOGG was a regular and quite the Civil War II enthusiast. Encouraging readers to "Choose your side wisely". Nothing good comes from interacting with him, he feeds off the anger. My advice is "Add Foe" and don't quote. He's a dark guy, deep inside.
Hey man I really appreciate this. I am flawed and I am a hypocrite but I truly believe in an ethic of trying to be better in an authentic way which means swallowing pride admitting my own mistakes and changing. In the meantime I know a lot about the Blues and I stay current so I love to write observations & interact on the subject.
Anyone that I ever fight with, the olive branch is there. I am trying to lead by example what I want to see happen but again it is a flawed attempt so we need as many rowers in the boat as possible. We have a big season ahead, lot to discuss.
seattleblue wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 17:26 pm
Ok Harry yes I was bragging about my special powers to talk to bleeder that's what I was doing. Good job buddy lol
seattleblue wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 17:26 pm
Ok Harry yes I was bragging about my special powers to talk to bleeder that's what I was doing. Good job buddy lol
At last... some simple honesty.
Thank you.
So in the context of an argument that it should be easy to give and exchange basic respect, you truly believe that giving basic respect to another person is a wildly exotic idea, and the ability to do so is a super special quality that only elites like me think we have.
is that what I am given to understand is how your brain processes knowledge? dear lord
seattleblue wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 17:26 pm
Ok Harry yes I was bragging about my special powers to talk to bleeder that's what I was doing. Good job buddy lol
At last... some simple honesty.
Thank you.
So in the context of an argument that it should be easy to give and exchange basic respect, you truly believe that giving basic respect to another person is a wildly exotic idea, and the ability to do so is a super special quality that only elites like me think we have.
is that what I am given to understand is how your brain processes knowledge? dear lord
Don't even start putting words in my mouth. Your hole is already deep enough.
I, like many others, have given Bleedr a second chance. Hell, he has had four or five second chances and has been banned. More than once. Because he cannot help himself. Were you here when he unveiled his "For the good of the Board" gambit?
Do you enjoy his grand and tragic role as the most significant Troll on this board for over two decades?
I cannot fathom why you put yourself on a pedestal as an example of how to deal with an unrepentant Troll....
It's one thing to act in a Compassionate manner.
It's another to brag about it, condescendingly and then attack others with ageist slander when they disagree.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
Wow...
How would you split hairs between referring to one's self in the Third Person versus proclaiming a special gift that no other poster here has ever, ever possessed?
Age-based personal attacks are not a good platform from which to make your case, btw.
How many years did we put up with the third person "king" and his other persona's?
Thread after thread after thread. Post after post after post. All to himself. But now he's changed. hahaha
Remember that?
And "age attack" is always a big ace in the hole when all else fails.
seattleblue wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 17:26 pm
Ok Harry yes I was bragging about my special powers to talk to bleeder that's what I was doing. Good job buddy lol
At last... some simple honesty.
Thank you.
So in the context of an argument that it should be easy to give and exchange basic respect, you truly believe that giving basic respect to another person is a wildly exotic idea, and the ability to do so is a super special quality that only elites like me think we have.
is that what I am given to understand is how your brain processes knowledge? dear lord
Don't even start putting words in my mouth. Your hole is already deep enough.
I, like many others, have given Bleedr a second chance. Hell, he has had four or five second chances and has been banned. More than once. Because he cannot help himself. Were you here when he unveiled his "For the good of the Board" gambit?
Do you enjoy his grand and tragic role as the most significant Troll on this board for over two decades?
I cannot fathom why you put yourself on a pedestal as an example of how to deal with an unrepentant Troll....
It's one thing to act in a Compassionate manner.
It's another to brag about it, condescendingly and then attack others with ageist slander when they disagree.
What are you playing at?
Harry, I am sorry it didn't work out previously between you and bleeder. I saw the whole thing, I know the pattern. Do you know the actual difference right now? He's not making those posts, and he's not starting [shirt]. I get it you're like he's all out of chances. That's totally your call that's everyone's call. But ask yourself ... who are you informing that you don't like bleeder, exactly, when you post about him. Which members do you think aren't aware. Do these people have to constantly hear it? I think you know everyone knows, it just feels good emotionally to do it so you do it, the end. That's what I think is going on but feel free to prove me wrong with behavior to the contrary.
It was meant as sarcasm toward those who can't consider others when I said the thing about "what am I? Mr. special powers man?" Obviously not, this is what you were taught in grade school. If I am condescending to you, I am condescending like "please remember this thing you were taught in grade school." jesus man. It's [shirt]ty to have to spell this out, you're supposed to know grade school things. I am just stating my own approach to not getting stuck in an unendable quagmire with another person. draw from your grade school days to solve it. I don't want a quagmire with him you or anybody, that is literally the whole point. It takes discipline because we all bump into each other like you and I are doing right now. Do you have the discipline to calm yourself now? I do. It doesn't take special powers. Just do it. But if you want to rant at me now or in the middle of the night, whatever. I am going to REI then softball practice. Enjoy your night.
btw I fully get the other guy's long history. I was here for MMD my friend. I know from trolls on this board
I was not aware that this forum is a soap opera with ongoing spits and spats and squabbles.
Speaking for myself, I don't want any part of that. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
I share my opinions and then go about my business. I have no ill-will towards anyone, and never will.
I criticize Army, but it's not because I dislike the guy. He's a friendly enough chap, likable. I realize that he is doing his job to the best of his ability.
My comments are only meant to steer opinion and sway minds. I want St Louis to be treated to the same NHL entertainment as Boston, Washington, and Pittsburg and every other NHL city. After losing my hometown football team twice, I will not sit back and watch abuse and neglect of my city.
a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 18:08 pm
I was not aware that this forum is a soap opera with ongoing spits and spats and squabbles.
Speaking for myself, I don't want any part of that. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
I share my opinions and then go about my business. I have no ill-will towards anyone, and never will.
I criticize Army, but it's not because I dislike the guy. He's a friendly enough chap, likable. I realize that he is doing his job to the best of his ability.
My comments are only meant to steer opinion and sway minds. I want St Louis to be treated to the same NHL entertainment as Boston, Washington, and Pittsburg and every other NHL city. After losing my hometown football team twice, I will not sit back and watch abuse and neglect of my city.
It’s not abuse and neglect that blues management doesn’t agree with your direction for the team. You’re pretending that St. Louis is the worst run franchise in the league when we have a more recent cup win than any of the teams you mentioned in your post. Hell, Boston and Pittsburgh were basement dwellers last season and still don’t have the prospect depth St. Louis has according to the same article you’re (bleep) about. Why in the world would we want to be more like them?
a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 18:08 pm
I was not aware that this forum is a soap opera with ongoing spits and spats and squabbles.
Speaking for myself, I don't want any part of that. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
I share my opinions and then go about my business. I have no ill-will towards anyone, and never will.
I criticize Army, but it's not because I dislike the guy. He's a friendly enough chap, likable. I realize that he is doing his job to the best of his ability.
My comments are only meant to steer opinion and sway minds. I want St Louis to be treated to the same NHL entertainment as Boston, Washington, and Pittsburg and every other NHL city. After losing my hometown football team twice, I will not sit back and watch abuse and neglect of my city.
It’s not abuse and neglect that blues management doesn’t agree with your direction for the team. You’re pretending that St. Louis is the worst run franchise in the league when we have a more recent cup win than any of the teams you mentioned in your post. Hell, Boston and Pittsburgh were basement dwellers last season and still don’t have the prospect depth St. Louis has according to the same article you’re (bleep) about. Why in the world would we want to be more like them?
The Blues are the WORSE RUN TEAM IN THE LEAGUE when you consider that
A) the fans in St Louis get NO excitement and thrill from NHL Draft Day for the last 17 years. The only year that held a little promise was 2023, and our scouts botched that draft royally. Every team in the NHL has a least 1 TOP5 pick, and St Louis has ZERO. Florida and Edmonton each have two.
B) The only elite players that we get to watch are skating for the other team.
a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 18:08 pm
I was not aware that this forum is a soap opera with ongoing spits and spats and squabbles.
Speaking for myself, I don't want any part of that. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
I share my opinions and then go about my business. I have no ill-will towards anyone, and never will.
I criticize Army, but it's not because I dislike the guy. He's a friendly enough chap, likable. I realize that he is doing his job to the best of his ability.
My comments are only meant to steer opinion and sway minds. I want St Louis to be treated to the same NHL entertainment as Boston, Washington, and Pittsburg and every other NHL city. After losing my hometown football team twice, I will not sit back and watch abuse and neglect of my city.
It’s not abuse and neglect that blues management doesn’t agree with your direction for the team. You’re pretending that St. Louis is the worst run franchise in the league when we have a more recent cup win than any of the teams you mentioned in your post. Hell, Boston and Pittsburgh were basement dwellers last season and still don’t have the prospect depth St. Louis has according to the same article you’re (bleep) about. Why in the world would we want to be more like them?
The Blues are the WORSE RUN TEAM IN THE LEAGUE when you consider that
A) the fans in St Louis get NO excitement and thrill from NHL Draft Day for the last 17 years. The only year that held a little promise was 2023, and our scouts botched that draft royally. Every team in the NHL has a least 1 TOP5 pick, and St Louis has ZERO. Florida and Edmonton each have two.
B) The only elite players that we get to watch are skating for the other team.
A) the Blues made arguably the best draft day trade in the last 17 years in the Rundblad/Tarasenko trade. Big flop on your part. B) the Blues do have a top 5 pick on the roster. You should change your name to “Wrong Again”
How about the 2017 draft. Traded 2 late 1st rounders (one was our 2019 1st) for a 5th overall Scheen in his prime and dumped useless and overpaid Letera to Philly.
Oh and it was the same year we drafted Thomas at #20. Also traded a 4th line fighter (fan favorite n locker room guy) for a late 1st. Pick busted but still a good move
seattleblue wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 18:02 pm
Harry, I am sorry it didn't work out previously between you and bleeder. I saw the whole thing, I know the pattern. Do you know the actual difference right now? He's not making those posts, and he's not starting [shirt]. I get it you're like he's all out of chances. That's totally your call that's everyone's call. But ask yourself ... who are you informing that you don't like bleeder, exactly, when you post about him. Which members do you think aren't aware. Do these people have to constantly hear it? I think you know everyone knows, it just feels good emotionally to do it so you do it, the end. That's what I think is going on but feel free to prove me wrong with behavior to the contrary.
It was meant as sarcasm toward those who can't consider others when I said the thing about "what am I? Mr. special powers man?" Obviously not, this is what you were taught in grade school. If I am condescending to you, I am condescending like "please remember this thing you were taught in grade school." jesus man. It's [shirt]ty to have to spell this out, you're supposed to know grade school things. I am just stating my own approach to not getting stuck in an unendable quagmire with another person. draw from your grade school days to solve it. I don't want a quagmire with him you or anybody, that is literally the whole point. It takes discipline because we all bump into each other like you and I are doing right now. Do you have the discipline to calm yourself now? I do. It doesn't take special powers. Just do it. But if you want to rant at me now or in the middle of the night, whatever. I am going to REI then softball practice. Enjoy your night.
btw I fully get the other guy's long history. I was here for MMD my friend. I know from trolls on this board
I love you Seattle … you’re my inner spirit which consists of peace, love and vulnerability. I’m a fragile flower facing crosswinds at dawn.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
i didnt read your book. I am just saying that you basically called me out for the same sheet you did. That's pretty Hypocritical if you as k me. Are you A [political party]... cause you just pulled a do as i say but not as a i do kinda thing that Libs do all the time.
With that happy friday, Hope you and everyone else on this board has a great labor day weekend.
