billybaseball wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:01 pm
Pronman still ranking Snuggerud's skating as below average and talking about his foot speed being an issue tells me all I need to know. Snuggerud had poor skating and bad foot speed going into his draft year but was vastly improved by the time the draft came around. Now his skating is at least above average. Saying anything else tells me he's just making [shirt] up based on old scouting reports
In addition, it is truly pitiful this hack is centering a handful of games in October 2023 where Dvorsky was used awkwardly on a SHL team as a reason that he is a fading prospect. Dvorsky since that time played outstanding hockey in the OHL and the AHL. But Corey is not capable of adjusting, not being able to adjust is true weakness in the game he's in. Corey Pronman is pathetic presenting himself as someone capable of doing this work; he cannot do it, flat out
This is very true. He latches onto an assessment and seemingly never adjusts if/when further data tells a much different story. It’s lazy.
He writes words and structures them in basically coherent sentences that sound good as long as the reader doesn’t actually know the content. He sounds competent. But he’s proven for many years now to be wholly incompetent in actual substance.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
He hasn't drafted in consequential territory because he's managed to put a very competitive team on the ice much more often than not. Although you might like him to tank, he's got bosses that tell him not to and to be competitive, so that's what he does masterfully without the premium picks. Personally I think you should direct your ire at ownership over not having top 5 instead of Army. He's just gone out and met the expectation of his bosses and succeeded. If anything you should hate Army for being as good as he has been in finding talent the teams who routinely draft in front of the Blues miss out on.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
For the Love of God, hockey cannot get here fast enough.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
For the Love of God, hockey cannot get here fast enough.
You've correctly identified the person calling for peace as the problem.
You're an older person and you do a lot of countertrolling. I hope that doesn't happen to me.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
Wow...
How would you split hairs between referring to one's self in the Third Person versus proclaiming a special gift that no other poster here has ever, ever possessed?
Age-based personal attacks are not a good platform from which to make your case, btw.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
A couple things here my man, number one an apology. When you first showed up, I accused you of being a sock account and a troll. Neither are true obviously. I also got angry because I mistook some things you said to mean, that if the Blues didn't blow it up they were wasting our time as fans. I said some things in that exchange that I shouldn't have, and I'm sorry. You have a depth of knowledge I will never have and I'm glad you share it with us here. The reason I reacted that way is because even though ASOGG is special (more on that), he wasn't alone that we had multiple short term trolls who came in here acting like they knew everything and anyone who didn't agree that it HAD to be torn down to get multiple Top 5 picks (The one guy coined the term "Superhumans") was a sheep that knew nothing about hockey. It was a pretty bleak time as a fan, again my apologies.
The other is ASOGG and I'll tell you that one goes back to the stone age here. Don't know how long you lurked, but, there was another forum here for the news side called Current Affairs and it was an unmoderated [shirt] show. I honestly think what killed it was the possibilty that an advertiser would find out that their ads surrounded a discussion of how the US Army should use attack helicopters to slaughter migrants with machine guns en masse before they could get here. ASOGG was a regular and quite the Civil War II enthusiast. Encouraging readers to "Choose your side wisely". Nothing good comes from interacting with him, he feeds off the anger. My advice is "Add Foe" and don't quote. He's a dark guy, deep inside.
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
Ww...
How would you split hairs between referring to one's self in the Third Person versus proclaiming a special gift that no other poster here has ever, ever possessed?
No man, it's sarcastic. It wen't over your head, really? It takes special powers to show someone respect because you can just choose your own response to a situation? Come on ...
STL fan in MN wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 12:21 pm
Ok, fine. Your ideas are very, very wrong. People have been telling you that since you got here. Yet you keep parroting them. This has caused some to get so annoyed with your constant spamming of this board with the same cr@p to attack you personally instead of your ideas. Because they’ve told you, repeatedly I might add, that your ideas are garbage, unfounded, nonsensical and oftentimes downright not based in reality.
We have a lot of people who fight with each other here and what I wish we could see more clearly is that this dynamic, the @dril dynamic, is going to utterly f'ing metastasize once AI is integrated. Because an individual like this is here to inflict his damage, and while it's an empathizing situation that people have damage, it's much more likely than not he will continue to choose malignancy but have much more powerful tools to interfere with this collective human niche passion that we real humans share. I am coming at things from that standpoint. Time is running out and then we will miss these good old days and wish we hadn't squandered them bickering with each other when there is a real genuine bad force out there and it's people like this guy. I know people hate bleeder and I lurked the whole time so I am familiar with everything, but bleeder is a real person with a point of view who knows hockey and is committed to arguing his point of view with people even if it goes sideways a lot. This ... is different. This is a significance persona show and it's of a different sort. And once this persona show gets better tools he will inflict them. We ought to all figure out what we have more in common with each other quicker IMO, and enjoy these salad days cause they are not long for this world I predict ....
The good news about ASOGG is that he doesn't fight with anyone. He has much more important things to do. He is here to sway minds. The fans in St Louis have been brainwashed into thinking that we like to watch good effort above result. They have us believing that we are tough team while hoisting Thomas and Kyrou as our front men. They have us believing that Douglas Army drafts well, when he hasn't drafted in consequential territory for 15 years. While other GMs are putting their necks on the line with their picks, Army strolls to the podium when the potential HOFs are all off the board. He picks the best of the remaining where the stakes are no higher than selecting an apple at the grocery store. If it's a bad one, no one will blame him.
Yes, ASOGG's job is large, but it is quite easy to throw light on these shenanigans. I don't need AI, or any sort of superpowers. All that I have to do is lay common sense on the shelf, and it sells.
I wasn't talking to you just capturing your intent. You're an adult who refers to himself in the third person, it's embarrassing. It's such a low standard, such a tiny achievement, literally anyone can do what you do if they choose to.
There's only one edge human beings have and that's they can choose to be better. To witness what you choose instead, is for you to do an interpretive dance of the dreck of the human condition. But I am already aware of its pitiful condition thanks to a critical mass of (bleep) like you, thanks
Were you not just giving me sheet for going off on this turd bucket. He def needs to be put in his place.
I am frustrated with you for beginning a lot of fights with bleeder. Like, I get the reason everyone was mad at him. You have two choices, hold onto it forever or change, I'm not making special pleading for him, he rows his own boat. If he hadn't changed his approach, then who am I to police what you say to him except to note how small a community it is and you know we're all pretty familiar with recent historical rhetoric wars so when you reiterate it so often it's as if you don't think the people reading your posts understand your opinion of him. I am very familiar with you not liking bleeder, and you going out of your way to constantly post about it is narcissistically fronting your beef as if we can't retain that info. You reiterate your beef as if it's in front of an audience of thousands, but it's not it's in front of a small group of people. There are quality Blues fans who don't post here because historically the trolling has led to countertrolling and it can never stop because you need to "put him in his place." You do. It has to be you, right? You have to peacock for the others who also do it and be the best peacocking doer of it? That's so bad man.
But if you can't discern that bleeder has had a change of heart and is posting like a normal contrarian and not starting personal fights then I don't think you're paying close attention.
As for this other guy he's playing a game. He's someone who uses "mitigating" in a sentence, someone who is purposefully scouring the dead places in his soul to make sure humans fail the way they are meant to. I've been talking to the person operating the persona and I know he means ill. It is the way some humans intend to be.
I don't think you have followed Bleedr very long...
His "Changes of Heart" are a last resort of a Troll who has utterly failed..
They do not last.
As I noted, I am fully aware of the history.
I must have special talents because I treat him with respect and he treats me with respect and it seems to work.
A lot of people just want payback and that's more important to them. I would say there's a good dozen+ people here who do it. Again I get the reason behind the feeling, I am talking about the response. In life you can only control your response, right?
Ww...
How would you split hairs between referring to one's self in the Third Person versus proclaiming a special gift that no other poster here has ever, ever possessed?
No man, it's sarcastic. It wen't over your head, really? It takes special powers to show someone respect because you can just choose your own response to a situation? Come on ...
