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[theograce]

There is a guy named Broberg that got drafted #8 in 2019 that showed “top 5” skills and potential last season.

I’m excited to see what Broberg turns into, but I never saw what you saw last year…that doesn’t mean he was bad.

[stlblue06]

There is a guy named Broberg that got drafted #8 in 2019 that showed “top 5” skills and potential last season.

I’m excited to see what Broberg turns into, but I never saw what you saw last year…that doesn’t mean he was bad.

Yes we know, you shat on him all year for no reason. How can you be excited if you didn’t see any potential in him? Young dmen his age never stand out as all stars unless they are putting up a ton of points (despite how they are playing defensively).

[theograce]

There is a guy named Broberg that got drafted #8 in 2019 that showed “top 5” skills and potential last season.

I’m excited to see what Broberg turns into, but I never saw what you saw last year…that doesn’t mean he was bad.

Yes we know, you shat on him all year for no reason. How can you be excited if you didn’t see any potential in him? Young dmen his age never stand out as all stars unless they are putting up a ton of points (despite how they are playing defensively).

No I didn’t. I didn’t like him not sticking up for himself and forcing 160 pound goaltender to step in. You enjoyed that? You’d be ok with it happening?

He’s 24-years old. 23 last year. Lots of 23 year old have stood out. What are you on about there

[stlblue06]

There is a guy named Broberg that got drafted #8 in 2019 that showed “top 5” skills and potential last season.

I’m excited to see what Broberg turns into, but I never saw what you saw last year…that doesn’t mean he was bad.

Yes we know, you shat on him all year for no reason. How can you be excited if you didn’t see any potential in him? Young dmen his age never stand out as all stars unless they are putting up a ton of points (despite how they are playing defensively).

No I didn’t. I didn’t like him not sticking up for himself and forcing 160 pound goaltender to step in. You enjoyed that? You’d be ok with it happening?

He’s 24-years old. 23 last year. Lots of 23 year old have stood out. What are you on about there

So he isn’t a fighter or a big hitter. We’ve had plenty of those guys like a Faulk and Leddy on the Blues. Those guys also couldn’t play defense (or offense) very well.

He was a 23 year old in his 1st full NHL season. He came out and showed what he could do on the offensive side of the puck and then clearly focused on his defensive game after the injury.

I thought he was outstanding in the playoffs. Easily one of most reliable and steady defenders. Throw that in with his impressive play in the highest stakes games with the Oilers, I’d say Broberg is ready to break out into the elite category in the next couple of years.

[theograce]

He was a 23 year old in his 1st full NHL season.

Which isn’t typical of a top 5 player is it.

You saw top 5 last year…I didn’t.

No big deal right

[stlblue06]

He was a 23 year old in his 1st full NHL season.

Which isn’t typical of a top 5 player is it.

You saw top 5 last year…I didn’t.

No big deal right

If you’re judging his top 5 status/potential on number of games played by a certain age then you aren’t looking at the right things. It’s clear EDM was morons with choosing playing time for their prospects

[theograce]

He was a 23 year old in his 1st full NHL season.

Which isn’t typical of a top 5 player is it.

You saw top 5 last year…I didn’t.

No big deal right

If you’re judging his top 5 status/potential on number of games played by a certain age then you aren’t looking at the right things. It’s clear EDM was morons with choosing playing time for their prospects

Morons that were a goal away from the Cup and who made the Final this year?

I’m judging him based what I saw last year which didn’t look top 5 anywhere in his game.

Pietrangelo (4) was exceptional already defensively at 22 leading the team in ATOI and a clear top 5 pick. Lots of examples.

You saw top 5 last year and I didn’t. Hope you’re ok with that

[stlblue06]

I wasn’t talking about EDM’s ability to finally make it past the 2nd round just a few years ago after many years trying with 2 of the best players in the game and endless top 5 picks leaving the organization quickly

[theograce]

I wasn’t talking about EDM’s ability to finally make it past the 2nd round just a few years ago after many years trying with 2 of the best players in the game and endless top 5 picks leaving the organization quickly

Ok

[STL fan in MN]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

[TAFKAP]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

Hell, one of them wasn't even drafted in the NHL.

[DoneLurking]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

Hell, one of them wasn't even drafted in the NHL.

Two of them, actually.

[Frank Barone]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

Hell, one of them wasn't even drafted in the NHL.

Two of them, actually.

Ha ha, great point!

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Just wow.

[a smell of green grass]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

The greatest players in the history of the game are very often TOP5 picks. Not always, but a very large majority of the time.

Does anyone else cringe when you see lists of the best NHL players? You don't expect to see a single Blues player, do you? Do you think that that is a good thing for this city? I don't.

[DawgDad]

What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.

Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.

So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].

Same top-5 shtick. Then lists 3 former Blues, none of which were even drafted by the Blues and none of which were top-5 picks, thus pretty easily proving himself wrong that these types of players can’t be obtained otherwise. Classic.

The greatest players in the history of the game are very often TOP5 picks. Not always, but a very large majority of the time.

Does anyone else cringe when you see lists of the best NHL players? You don't expect to see a single Blues player, do you? Do you think that that is a good thing for this city? I don't.

Haven't you noticed it's the BAD teams that get top-5 picks, with rare exceptions? I'd rather follow a GOOD team playing good hockey, getting into the playoffs. You are advocating for the Blues to become a BAD team. Over Army's tenure with the Blues he's in the top-5 in WINS, not draft position. No, the ranking lists do not matter. We've recently been treated to a Stanley Cup and a 300-plus goal 109 point team, and the current team is very compelling. The key is TEAM, not any individual. Know why? It's a team sport.