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Re: Mailloux

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EL Bandito wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:01 pm Absolute best comp i have found after quite a bit of searching is....

Brent Burns

Especially when he was young. So many similarities.
Better comp than Bouchard? I’m not sure
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STL fan in MN wrote: 19 Aug 2025 12:56 pm He has clear offensive skills and a bomb of a shot. Where he’s clearly lacking is in his defensive play but he’s been making strides there too. But he’s also 6’3”, 215 lbs and plays with an edge. The hope is he can improve enough defensively for the offensive talent to be a real weapon.

I expect some definite growing pains this season but he’s should be solid. From an organizational strengths and weaknesses standpoint, I like the trade. I didn’t at first but I’ve come around on it. Just hope fans give him some time to grow and learn how to properly play D at the NHL level and there’s not a new thread every time Bolduc scores a point. :roll:
I'm not sure if it's all hockey fanbases, but this one in particular has very suspect skills of judging defense. It's been the constant for 2 seasons of decent play, yet it's the whipping boy for the everyday fan. Unless mailloux absolutely shatters expectations offensively, he's going to get unwarranted shade from people who just say "durr durr I'm tired of watching xxxxx he's swiss cheese durr durr." I don't know if this sentiment came on the backs of everyone loving Binner, (understandably so) or if it's just because it's way easier to spot a negative than a positive. I too hope this guy gets some runway. I'm good with seeing mistakes from rookies, we saw lots of them from Bolduc. It's OK as long as effort is there and attempt to fix.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 19 Aug 2025 10:22 am https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/n30862

Mailloux has no issues dropping the gloves Im predicting a physical, highly skilled fan favorite type of player. The question in my mind is when? This season, next season? Remains to be seen
Thanks for that link. Looks like he needs to develop some more leg strength as he seems a bit top heavy & gets off balance in the scrums.
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Inglewood Jack wrote: 19 Aug 2025 14:32 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 19 Aug 2025 10:22 am https://www.hockeyfights.com/players/n30862

Mailloux has no issues dropping the gloves Im predicting a physical, highly skilled fan favorite type of player. The question in my mind is when? This season, next season? Remains to be seen
Thanks for that link. Looks like he needs to develop some more leg strength as he seems a bit top heavy & gets off balance in the scrums.
The fight against zito was pretty brutal. Horrible job protecting himself unless he was fully knocked out
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Re: Mailloux

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theograce wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:57 pm
EL Bandito wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:01 pm Absolute best comp i have found after quite a bit of searching is....

Brent Burns

Especially when he was young. So many similarities.
Better comp than Bouchard? I’m not sure
Sheldon Souray (especially if he does not clean up the defensive brainlocks).
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Re: Mailloux

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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 19 Aug 2025 15:17 pm
theograce wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:57 pm
EL Bandito wrote: 19 Aug 2025 13:01 pm Absolute best comp i have found after quite a bit of searching is....

Brent Burns

Especially when he was young. So many similarities.
Better comp than Bouchard? I’m not sure
Sheldon Souray (especially if he does not clean up the defensive brainlocks).
Souray…yeah. He was mean and tough as nails from my memory
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Is Mike Weber the Defense Coach?

He seems to be a good and loyal teammate and Coach.
He has been close pals with Ott, apparently- another healthy sign of loyalty and guts.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 19 Aug 2025 15:40 pm Is Mike Weber the Defense Coach?

He seems to be a good and loyal teammate and Coach.
He has been close pals with Ott, apparently- another healthy sign of loyalty and guts.
Yes, he’s the Asst Coach in charge of the defense. Took over from Mike Van Ryn.
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What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:13 pm What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
Actually, Army has essentially been asked questions #1 and #2, and he has answered those questions publicly. Number 3 is just ridiculous nonsense.

None of this comes close to "day of reckoning" stuff. He's one of the most accomplished GMs in the league, right up at the top of the list.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:13 pm What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.
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Re: Mailloux

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DawgDad wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:19 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:13 pm What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
Actually, Army has essentially been asked questions #1 and #2, and he has answered those questions publicly. Number 3 is just ridiculous nonsense.

None of this comes close to "day of reckoning" stuff. He's one of the most accomplished GMs in the league, right up at the top of the list.
I must have missed it.

What has Army said recently about Jiricek and drafting him at #16?

Here is my prediction...
Jiricek will quietly and completely fail in 3 years, and 100% of blame will be on Jiricek. Poor guy just couldn't stay healthy. No one person, other than me, will say
1) It was a mistake for Army to try to draft a TOP5 talent with injury risk
2) Army has NO SOLUTION for adding a TOP5 elite RHD to the roster. He has no path. He won't get it done.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:30 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:13 pm What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
Reporters don’t ask these questions because they’re leading and nonsensical. No, Jiricek wasn’t expected to be elite. If he was, he would’ve gone top-5, not 16th. As for if it was a mistake, it’s been 1 year. He just turned 19 a little over a month ago. You make it sound like a forgone conclusion he’s the next Rundblad or Schmaltz. And Montreal has more top defensive prospects because they used more of their draft picks on them lately. The Blues used more of theirs on forwards. The two teams swapped a d-man for a comparable forward as they both dealt from a position of strength. It’s as simple as that yet you’ve once again found a way to turn it into some grand conspiracy and another “fault” of Army’s. The shtick has gotten old.
So the team that has drafted all defense lately also has Demidov at the gate.

Let's be honest, shall we....?

The Canandiens have GREAT PROSPECTS because of their draft position.
The Blues have SH111111T PROSPECTS because of their draft position.

Canadien fans will be watching elite stars every night because of their draft position.
Blues fans can watch HULL, OATES, and GRETZKY on YOU TUBE anytime they want from 20 years ago--because of their draft position.

Armstrong and the fans believe that there is NOTHING LOST BY DRAFTING OUTSIDE THE TOP 5, and THAT IS COMPLETE [nonsense].
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a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:35 pm
DawgDad wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:19 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 19 Aug 2025 16:13 pm What I would like is for Army to get his day of reckoning.

Why don't the reporters ask...
1) Wasn't Jiricek drafted to be the elite RHD?
2) Was trying to draft a TOP5 talent at #16 with injury-risk a mistake?
3) Why does Montreal have SO MUCH defensive prospect talent, and STL have SO LITTLE?

Army is never held accountable for his mistakes, and a result his approach will not change.

This year's mistake...
Trying to trade for a TOP5 talent with known defensive and off-ice risk and giving up a proven young winger to take that roulette spin.
Actually, Army has essentially been asked questions #1 and #2, and he has answered those questions publicly. Number 3 is just ridiculous nonsense.

None of this comes close to "day of reckoning" stuff. He's one of the most accomplished GMs in the league, right up at the top of the list.
I must have missed it.

What has Army said recently about Jiricek and drafting him at #16?

Here is my prediction...
Jiricek will quietly and completely fail in 3 years, and 100% of blame will be on Jiricek. Poor guy just couldn't stay healthy. No one person, other than me, will say
1) It was a mistake for Army to try to draft a TOP5 talent with injury risk
2) Army has NO SOLUTION for adding a TOP5 elite RHD to the roster. He has no path. He won't get it done.
1. Who should he have picked at 16?
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It's remarkable to me how this guy gets so much replay from ya'll.

He's as dumb as a brick and no surprise as futile as talking to a brick wall.
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There is a guy named Broberg that got drafted #8 in 2019 that showed “top 5” skills and potential last season.

Mailloux is a 2022 1st rounder to go along with a 1st rounder in 2023 and 24 used on a d-man, I’d say the Blues are fine with defensive prospects for now. They have Colt playing at a top tier and that should continue for the next 2-5 years. I don’t see why Fowler can’t be in our top 4 after being resigned for 3-4 more years.

If Mailloux doesn’t show top 4 potential right away then the Blues will have to make a trade or sign one after Faulk is gone next offseason (maybe at the deadline if one is available).
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