Two teams in our divsion spend less than the Cardinals and have better records .. Is it more than $$$ spent ?

[cardinalsfever44]

Are we holding the Brewers to the same standard as the Cards? The last time they were in the NLCS was 7 years ago and they lost. The Cards make the NLCS and lose and Cards Talk deems it a bad season.

The Brewers have never won a World Series and the last time they were in the World Series was 1982, 43 years ago.

The last time the Reds were in the NLCS was 1995 and they got swept. Was this a successful season?
The last time the Reds won a world series was 1990, 35 years ago.

Yeah, both are better this season, but if neither team does anything in the playoffs, how can you say it's any better than the Cards from 2019-2022?

[Goldfan]

Its more about money well spent. Paying top dollar for average or declining players is Mo's way.

This is true. Mozeliak spends stupid money on [shirt]ty or washed up players.

Yes….

But…..many followers, and some on this board, endorsed those signings..

exactly 45……exactly ……there are some truly brainwashed fellas logging in here…..running with the MO herd….and they snipe with vengeance while whatever decision they defended blows up in real time. PHD Psych dissertation should be written

[Goldfan]

Are we holding the Brewers to the same standard as the Cards? The last time they were in the NLCS was 7 years ago and they lost. The Cards make the NLCS and lose and Cards Talk deems it a bad season.

The Brewers have never won a World Series and the last time they were in the World Series was 1982, 43 years ago.

The last time the Reds were in the NLCS was 1995 and they got swept. Was this a successful season?
The last time the Reds won a world series was 1990, 35 years ago.

Yeah, both are better this season, but if neither team does anything in the playoffs, how can you say it's any better than the Cards from 2019-2022?

Have you been watching Cardinals Baseball the last 3 yrs??? And the timeframe you reference was the last dying breath of anything that closely resembled the Great Winning Era. Remember that a 45 yr old Pujols had to come back and carry the team the 2nd half of ‘22…..the was the last it…done and over

[rightthinker4]

Most baseball followers know that the Brewers (best record in baseball 78-45 ) rank 23rd in payroll spending $113 M . The Cincinnati Reds are 65-60
ranking 22nd with $119M payroll.

While many posters do not expect the Cardinals to be in the Top 5 payroll teams (LAD, NYM, NNY, Phi, Tor ) , many of those would like to see a substantial increase in payroll.

The Texas Rangers rank 7th $222M and have a sub .500 record 62-63
Atlanta is 9th 56-68 at $213 M
LA Angels are 11th 60-64 and spend $204 M
Arizona DBacks 13th are 60-65 at $177 M
The SF Giants 14th are 60-64 at $174 M

What total $$$ do you feel DeWitt should commit to the Cardinals payroll ? and what win total would you expect for that expenditure ?

Final note: The NYM payroll for 2025 is $339 M and they have won 5 more games than the Cardinals who spent $129 M

Drafting and developing players, and spending money wisely for needed pieces is the key. A $300 M payroll is not a guarantee of success.

[rockondlouie]

-Reds smart move hiring T. Francona.

-BDWJr/Mo idiots for passing on T. Francona when he practically begged them for the job after TLR's retirement.

[Goldfan]

-Reds smart move hiring T. Francona.

-BDWJr/Mo idiots for passing on T. Francona when he practically begged them for the job after TLR's retirement.

But how would Mo/Girsch analytical nerds run the game with a strong experienced MLB manager???

[rockondlouie]

-Reds smart move hiring T. Francona.

-BDWJr/Mo idiots for passing on T. Francona when he practically begged them for the job after TLR's retirement.

But how would Mo/Girsch analytical nerds run the game with a strong experienced MLB manager???

And that's why Mo campaigned against Tito, he knew he'd get big time heat like he got from TLR.

And the Bull that Tito wasn't in a good spot personally is a load of c r a p.

[JuanAgosto]

-Reds smart move hiring T. Francona.

-BDWJr/Mo idiots for passing on T. Francona when he practically begged them for the job after TLR's retirement.

But how would Mo/Girsch analytical nerds run the game with a strong experienced MLB manager???

Exactly. Mo wanted full control. He wanted to be in charge. He thought he was smarter than everyone else and would become a modern Branch Rickey. He hired yes men and puds. His analytics guru is now Fredbird's booking agent.

So, a good, successful manager like Francona got away because Mo wanted power. I'd like to know what that jerk has on the DeWitts. Nobody keeps a job with declining results and revenue.