Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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Re: Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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MikoTython wrote: 16 Aug 2025 02:37 am
BarkCampbell wrote: 16 Aug 2025 00:50 am
MikoTython wrote: 15 Aug 2025 16:42 pm This Gutfield fellow over to Fox has been presented as the more 'legitimate' sort of late-nite TV host, because he's 'funnier', his audience is larger and, presumably, he makes money -while Colbert is presented as a money loser, unfunny and a propaganda merchant - the last presumably a 'unique' defect.

Here's what I found out about Gutfield, because I don't tend to watch him, feel free to challenge the following :

After Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, Gutfeld said that the media were emotionally manipulating viewers with footage from the conflict "...because that makes a profit for news companies."[36][37] Gutfeld was rebuked by Fox News foreign affairs correspondent Benjamin Hall who was on the ground in Kyiv: "This is not the media trying to drum up some emotional response. This is absolutely what's happening."[36][37] A few days later, Hall was seriously injured, while Pierre Zakrzewski (who also worked for Fox) and a Ukrainian journalist were killed, in a surprise attack on the journalists by Russian forces.[38]

On July 15, 2025, Gutfield attracted controversy after claiming conservatives should reclaim the word "Nazi" for themselves following comparisons of ICE agents and Trump to Nazism. Gutfield stated that "This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when you call us Nazis. Nazi this and Nazi that. You know, I'm beginning to think they don't like us. You know what? I've said this before. We need to learn from the Blacks. The way they were able to remove the power from the n-word by using it. So, from now on, it's, 'What up, my Nazi? Hey, what up, my Nazi? Hey, what's hanging, my Nazi?'"

During the July 24, 2023, broadcast of The Five, Gutfeld and co-host Jessica Tarlov discussed an educational curriculum in Florida public schools that would teach students that "slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit".[39] Tarlov, who said she is Jewish, disagreed with the curriculum and asked if this could be argued for those who perished in the Holocaust. Gutfeld then invoked Viktor Frankl's book Man's Search For Meaning, implying that those who survived the Holocaust had to be skilled or useful.[39] [it never occurred to him to mention, most relevantly, astonishingly lucky]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Gutfeld

If THIS guy is your shining example of a person to sum up the news of the day, crack some jokes, lend some insight, all I can say is...... this is exactly where we are.
Still funnier than Colbert, Kimmel, Stewart (Leibowitz), and Oliver.
Wow, are you telling us that Jon Stewart is J-Jewish. ???? That changes EVERYTHING. Tell us the most side-splittingly hilarious joke Herr Gutfeld has cracked in his life, since you keep telling us how funny he is, how much funnier he is. Maybe I sold him short. Knock our socks off :)
I'd say youtube him yourself. It's not my job to do your work. But, based off your benign examples of why we shouldn't enjoy him, I doubt your youtube algorithm will provide anything but video essays condemning Gutfeld meant to further your progressive outrage. They'll be listed right next to the several "Chapelle is a punching down transphobe" clips.
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Re: Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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BarkCampbell wrote: 16 Aug 2025 12:51 pm
MikoTython wrote: 16 Aug 2025 02:37 am
BarkCampbell wrote: 16 Aug 2025 00:50 am
MikoTython wrote: 15 Aug 2025 16:42 pm This Gutfield fellow over to Fox has been presented as the more 'legitimate' sort of late-nite TV host, because he's 'funnier', his audience is larger and, presumably, he makes money -while Colbert is presented as a money loser, unfunny and a propaganda merchant - the last presumably a 'unique' defect.

Here's what I found out about Gutfield, because I don't tend to watch him, feel free to challenge the following :

After Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, Gutfeld said that the media were emotionally manipulating viewers with footage from the conflict "...because that makes a profit for news companies."[36][37] Gutfeld was rebuked by Fox News foreign affairs correspondent Benjamin Hall who was on the ground in Kyiv: "This is not the media trying to drum up some emotional response. This is absolutely what's happening."[36][37] A few days later, Hall was seriously injured, while Pierre Zakrzewski (who also worked for Fox) and a Ukrainian journalist were killed, in a surprise attack on the journalists by Russian forces.[38]

On July 15, 2025, Gutfield attracted controversy after claiming conservatives should reclaim the word "Nazi" for themselves following comparisons of ICE agents and Trump to Nazism. Gutfield stated that "This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when you call us Nazis. Nazi this and Nazi that. You know, I'm beginning to think they don't like us. You know what? I've said this before. We need to learn from the Blacks. The way they were able to remove the power from the n-word by using it. So, from now on, it's, 'What up, my Nazi? Hey, what up, my Nazi? Hey, what's hanging, my Nazi?'"

During the July 24, 2023, broadcast of The Five, Gutfeld and co-host Jessica Tarlov discussed an educational curriculum in Florida public schools that would teach students that "slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit".[39] Tarlov, who said she is Jewish, disagreed with the curriculum and asked if this could be argued for those who perished in the Holocaust. Gutfeld then invoked Viktor Frankl's book Man's Search For Meaning, implying that those who survived the Holocaust had to be skilled or useful.[39] [it never occurred to him to mention, most relevantly, astonishingly lucky]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Gutfeld

If THIS guy is your shining example of a person to sum up the news of the day, crack some jokes, lend some insight, all I can say is...... this is exactly where we are.
Still funnier than Colbert, Kimmel, Stewart (Leibowitz), and Oliver.
Wow, are you telling us that Jon Stewart is J-Jewish. ???? That changes EVERYTHING. Tell us the most side-splittingly hilarious joke Herr Gutfeld has cracked in his life, since you keep telling us how funny he is, how much funnier he is. Maybe I sold him short. Knock our socks off :)
I'd say youtube him yourself. It's not my job to do your work. But, based off your benign examples of why we shouldn't enjoy him, I doubt your youtube algorithm will provide anything but video essays condemning Gutfeld meant to further your progressive outrage. They'll be listed right next to the several "Chapelle is a punching down transphobe" clips.
I like Gutfield, used to watch him on Red Eye back in the day.

To Miko, yes I already said this, but bares repeating. The difference is that Gutfeld’s shows are news/commentary with some comedy. I fully admit he sometimes isn’t that funny, some of his jokes are hackneyed as hell. But the network late night shows are supposed to be comedy first. They’re supposed to appeal to everyone.

You go to Fox News, you should have an idea of what you’re going to get. Broadcast networks shouldn’t be that way. I get it, they have changed, but look at the results. Speaks for itself.

And Gutfeld’s format is different too. He has two semi-regular guests, then changes people out who are either comedians, reporters, politicians, etc. That keeps it fresh. Sure, late night has difference guests, but they’re usually there to promote themselves. Sometimes that happens on Gutfeld, but more often than not they’re just on set to be guests on the show and opine on current topics.
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Re: Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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Well, guys, you are both of course ENTIRELY entitled to your takes, and you don't me to give you permission anyhoo, but I can at least say this - I can, apparently unlike yourselves, readily dredge up something from Liebenstein or Horoworitz or Goldberg (or whatever name Jon Stewart is masquerading from as a semi-true Scotsman to avoid being tagged as, you know....) from the youtubes that I dare say you will allow as funny - moreover, Stewart was going against the grain among some 'on the left' who were (for whatever strange reason that never made sense to me) down-playing the 'lab origin theory' of covid :

https://youtu.be/sSfejgwbDQ8?t=137

[And let me add - Chappelle does have a weird woody about 'raggen on' gender non-conformists. He's turned into a nasty old fart in his early-onset-dotage. ]
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Re: Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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BarkCampbell wrote: 16 Aug 2025 00:47 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 14 Aug 2025 19:09 pm
BarkCampbell wrote: 10 Aug 2025 19:36 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 10 Aug 2025 11:05 am
thegibby. wrote: 09 Aug 2025 21:00 pm
abuxb wrote: 07 Aug 2025 22:16 pm
BarkCampbell wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
abuxb wrote: 02 Aug 2025 23:44 pm Stephen Colbert is funny. He has been since his early days on The Daily show and in The Colbert Report. I'm also a big Letterman fan and I think that Colbert was an outstanding choice to replace him. His show is the top rated show in his time slot. Of course, since I'm eighty, I'm not in the demographic that advertisers look for, there's that. I rank Colbert right up there with the great social commentators of the past, like Washington Irving, Jonathon Swift, Mark Twain, H L Mencken, and Will Rogers.
The last thing Colbert did that was funny was voice Ace of The Ambiguously Gay Duo on SNL 20 plus years ago. Since then he's been the head of NPC entertainment. He's not the top rated show in his time slot. Gutfeld is.
The two shows don't even compete head to head. The Super Bowl outdraws them both, but so what? This is what an easy search found.

"Based on recent Nielsen ratings, "Gutfeld!" has been consistently outdrawing "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" in terms of total viewers and in key demographics. For example, in the second quarter of 2025, "Gutfeld!" averaged 3.289 million total viewers compared to Colbert's 2.417 million. "Gutfeld!" has also reportedly surpassed Colbert in the advertiser-coveted demographic of adults aged 25-54 for a significant period.


It is important to note, however, that the two shows air at different times. "Gutfeld!" airs at 10 p.m. ET, while "The Late Show" airs in the 11:35 p.m. ET slot. Colbert's show still holds the top spot among the traditional network late-night comedy programs in its time slot.
Makes you wonder how much money the others are losing.

It has yet to be revealed how much Colbert is losing.
The 40 million figure and all of the others have come from "anonymous sources" from propaganda- based, if not totally biased sites.
Snopes and other more solid sources point this out clearly.

To compare a prime time show at 10pm to a late night show that begins 25 minutes before midnight is simply foolish and ...dumb.

As always... consider the goddanged source.

Colbert and his audience are aging out, while the younger crowd- who never grew up when Journalism actually could be truly Fair and Balanced- flock to propaganda sites with hot blonde anchors and precious litlle truth.
My favorite part here was the insinuation that Colbert isn't propaganda.
Well, is he?
Has he or his network paid 3/4 of a billion dollars fine for spreading...lies?

Not to my knowledge.

CBS recently settled a lawsuit where they had to pay $16 Million up front for lying about their "selectively editing" of the 60 Mins Kamala interview. About $20 million more headed DJT's way. ABC also recently had to pay $15 million to DJT for lying on air (George Stephanopoulos). Let's not pretend the network news are, or have ever been, "fair and balanced." They're just not used to anyone fighting back.
Here's more CBS lying:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... den-laptop
As far as CBS and Trump's lawsuit-
What you posted is... entirely bull[shirt].

That is a slap on the wrist for CBS , an annoyance which may have cost CBS less money than fighting Trump's ENTIRELY frivolous and extortionist lawsuit.

Unlike FOX, which paid almost a BILION FRICKING DOLLARS and were forced to admit that they fricking LIED to fool dunces into thinking Trump won the election.... CBS never admitted any guilt.


See what watching a real propaganda network does to your brain?


CBS News has finally broken its silence over Donald Trump’s accusation that it used “deceitful editing” to doctor some of Kamala Harris’s answers in her 60 Minutes interview.

“Former President Donald Trump is accusing 60 Minutes of deceitful editing of our Oct. 7 interview with Vice President Kamala Harris,” the show said in a statement on Sunday. “That is false.”

It continued: “60 Minutes gave an excerpt of our interview to Face the Nation that used a longer section of her answer than that on 60 Minutes. Same question. Same answer.”

The statement continued: “But a different portion of the response. When we edit any interview, whether a politician, an athlete, or movie star, we strive to be clear, accurate and on point. The portion of her answer on 60 Minutes was more succinct, which allows time for other subjects in a wide ranging 21-minute-long segment.”
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Great point Harry, but that does undercut their rationale for 'settling', or as I like to call it, 'knuckling under' (see also : Stephen Colbert show).

Nevertheless, it clears out most of the previous distortion, or as I like to call it, titanic false equivalence, uttered upon the, as I like to call it, 'legal extortion' incident.
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Re: Stephen Colbert's CBS "Late Show" Will End in May

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Harry York 37 wrote: 18 Aug 2025 08:53 am
BarkCampbell wrote: 16 Aug 2025 00:47 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 14 Aug 2025 19:09 pm
BarkCampbell wrote: 10 Aug 2025 19:36 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 10 Aug 2025 11:05 am
thegibby. wrote: 09 Aug 2025 21:00 pm
abuxb wrote: 07 Aug 2025 22:16 pm
BarkCampbell wrote: 07 Aug 2025 14:48 pm
abuxb wrote: 02 Aug 2025 23:44 pm Stephen Colbert is funny. He has been since his early days on The Daily show and in The Colbert Report. I'm also a big Letterman fan and I think that Colbert was an outstanding choice to replace him. His show is the top rated show in his time slot. Of course, since I'm eighty, I'm not in the demographic that advertisers look for, there's that. I rank Colbert right up there with the great social commentators of the past, like Washington Irving, Jonathon Swift, Mark Twain, H L Mencken, and Will Rogers.
The last thing Colbert did that was funny was voice Ace of The Ambiguously Gay Duo on SNL 20 plus years ago. Since then he's been the head of NPC entertainment. He's not the top rated show in his time slot. Gutfeld is.
The two shows don't even compete head to head. The Super Bowl outdraws them both, but so what? This is what an easy search found.

"Based on recent Nielsen ratings, "Gutfeld!" has been consistently outdrawing "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" in terms of total viewers and in key demographics. For example, in the second quarter of 2025, "Gutfeld!" averaged 3.289 million total viewers compared to Colbert's 2.417 million. "Gutfeld!" has also reportedly surpassed Colbert in the advertiser-coveted demographic of adults aged 25-54 for a significant period.


It is important to note, however, that the two shows air at different times. "Gutfeld!" airs at 10 p.m. ET, while "The Late Show" airs in the 11:35 p.m. ET slot. Colbert's show still holds the top spot among the traditional network late-night comedy programs in its time slot.
Makes you wonder how much money the others are losing.

It has yet to be revealed how much Colbert is losing.
The 40 million figure and all of the others have come from "anonymous sources" from propaganda- based, if not totally biased sites.
Snopes and other more solid sources point this out clearly.

To compare a prime time show at 10pm to a late night show that begins 25 minutes before midnight is simply foolish and ...dumb.

As always... consider the goddanged source.

Colbert and his audience are aging out, while the younger crowd- who never grew up when Journalism actually could be truly Fair and Balanced- flock to propaganda sites with hot blonde anchors and precious litlle truth.
My favorite part here was the insinuation that Colbert isn't propaganda.
Well, is he?
Has he or his network paid 3/4 of a billion dollars fine for spreading...lies?

Not to my knowledge.

CBS recently settled a lawsuit where they had to pay $16 Million up front for lying about their "selectively editing" of the 60 Mins Kamala interview. About $20 million more headed DJT's way. ABC also recently had to pay $15 million to DJT for lying on air (George Stephanopoulos). Let's not pretend the network news are, or have ever been, "fair and balanced." They're just not used to anyone fighting back.
Here's more CBS lying:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... den-laptop
As far as CBS and Trump's lawsuit-
What you posted is... entirely bull[shirt].

That is a slap on the wrist for CBS , an annoyance which may have cost CBS less money than fighting Trump's ENTIRELY frivolous and extortionist lawsuit.

Unlike FOX, which paid almost a BILION FRICKING DOLLARS and were forced to admit that they fricking LIED to fool dunces into thinking Trump won the election.... CBS never admitted any guilt.


See what watching a real propaganda network does to your brain?


CBS News has finally broken its silence over Donald Trump’s accusation that it used “deceitful editing” to doctor some of Kamala Harris’s answers in her 60 Minutes interview.

“Former President Donald Trump is accusing 60 Minutes of deceitful editing of our Oct. 7 interview with Vice President Kamala Harris,” the show said in a statement on Sunday. “That is false.”

It continued: “60 Minutes gave an excerpt of our interview to Face the Nation that used a longer section of her answer than that on 60 Minutes. Same question. Same answer.”

The statement continued: “But a different portion of the response. When we edit any interview, whether a politician, an athlete, or movie star, we strive to be clear, accurate and on point. The portion of her answer on 60 Minutes was more succinct, which allows time for other subjects in a wide ranging 21-minute-long segment.”
Ah, gotcha. CBS said they dindunuffin, and that's an acceptable answer for you. You can watch her original answer, their edited answer, and then say to yourself, "ah yes, that was 'the same answer'," with a straight face. 60 Minutes did not simply report news, it constructed reality. Like a stagehand swapping out a broken prop, the editors at CBS took Harris’s blunder and replaced it with a stage-ready performance. They turned the inconvenient truths of Hunter Biden’s influence-peddling into conspiracy theories, then laundered their own misjudgments through the soothing veneer of “responsible journalism." They parade out Dan Rather as a respected veteran journalist and pretend he didn't have to resign in disgrace for lying in '04. I don't watch fox news because I'm not one of those boomers who still have cable. But cable news is open with their agenda. Network news are supposed to play it fair. They don't.
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