Last nights game take away.

[sikeston bulldog2]

You pointed out things I have noticed the last few years. Thanks for posting.

Red, try to stay positive...why are you negative?... the Cards were great in the 60s! (How did I do?)... figured you would be getting a similar post soon.

I was a huge fan 60 years ago. I still remember Boyer making an error on an easy grounder to cost them a game. Even Harry Caray said, "I can't believe how we loss some of these games". (You did just fine!)

I remember Harry going after Boyer..."he POPPED' it up, we needed more from our cleanup hitter!"

It seems you’re telling me that they complained back in the day too? Who would have thunk it.

KMOX had a sports open-line, and callers could voice their opinion. It was brutal at times, and they would cut off the callers. And in those days sports announcers were much more critical than they are today.

Worse than CT? That is rough.

[Melville]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

[Melville]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

Incredible effort no doubt.
That is how you want guys to play.
But he missed the ball - it went under his glove.
Results matter more than the show.
And Walker?
Badly fooled by the ball.
Missed a catchable ball at the wall.
2 homerun balls that could have been caught.
Fact - without agenda.
But is was Gray who let his team down more than anyone else.
Inexcusable lack of effort and attention on his part.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

Incredible effort no doubt.
That is how you want guys to play.
But he missed the ball - it went under his glove.
Results matter more than the show.
And Walker?
Badly fooled by the ball.
Missed a catchable ball at the wall.
2 homerun balls that could have been caught.
Fact - without agenda.
But is was Gray who let his team down more than anyone else.
Inexcusable lack of effort and attention on his part.

Don’t know if it was lack of effort. You give what you got, and of course you think what you give will be enough. Not so. As for lack of attention. I would think more lack of focus, and that is so very hard to measure.

Yes ball missed Scott’s glove. Again I say, most center fielders wouldn’t have even not have gotten that close. He was cooking.

Question- if it hit his glove, you giving an error?

[82birds]

Good morning.

Sixth inning. Runner on first. No outs.yankees batting. Leading 6-5.

Ground ball to Gorman left, can’t field the ball, trickles into left field. Runners on first and second. Another runner gets on. Rice hits the three run triple, now 9-5.

Had Gorman fielded that ball, a quite fieldable ball, we get a tailor made double play.

This is exactly the plays that will kill a team.

Next. Walker doubles to center. Ball was hit so hard the center fielder hardly turned around.

112 EV!! That ball was smoked. Walker is hitting better, and his EV’s are sky high. Had a 111 the other night.

Gray.

Got lit up again. On the couch. In his bed. He got light up again. I love the cocaine I love the cocaine. Mama can you wait- Buckcherry.

Sorry. Brain fart. I noticed him pulling on his jersey often, with a couple buttons undone. He looked warm.
Maybe there is something to the heat theory.

Burleson probably could have had an inside the parker. Held at third.

That’s it.

sounds far fetched to me.
but if true, he should waive his no-trade this winter to a team with roof on stadium and controlled 70 degree temp.
but at his age and performance and salary, not sure any team would want him.

[scoutyjones2]

Wait, poor fielding, slow of foor, bad back KKorn, can't field at 3b? Shocking.

A worthless, non-fielding, non hitting linebacker, can't play RF after 3 years? No way!

[Melville]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

Incredible effort no doubt.
That is how you want guys to play.
But he missed the ball - it went under his glove.
Results matter more than the show.
And Walker?
Badly fooled by the ball.
Missed a catchable ball at the wall.
2 homerun balls that could have been caught.
Fact - without agenda.
But is was Gray who let his team down more than anyone else.
Inexcusable lack of effort and attention on his part.

Don’t know if it was lack of effort. You give what you got, and of course you think what you give will be enough. Not so. As for lack of attention. I would think more lack of focus, and that is so very hard to measure.

Yes ball missed Scott’s glove. Again I say, most center fielders wouldn’t have even not have gotten that close. He was cooking.

Question- if it hit his glove, you giving an error?

Gray appeared terrified of Judge and his preference was to serve absolute meatballs to Rice.
Completely backwards thinking.
He should have pitched Rice aggressively and simply walked Judge.
Instead, he simply hoped Rice would hit it where someone could catch it.
In fairness, that appeared to be the game plan since every STL pitcher followed the same approach.
They made is so easy on Rice that Judge didn't matter.
Call it lack of effort, call it ducking Judge, call in poor game planning - regardless, it was terrible execution.
As for Winn and Walker, you appear to be looking for a criticism that isn't there.
It is not about official scoring.
It is not about effort (which was terrific on Scott's part).
They both missed the ball - and a HR was the result.
Simple as that.

[moose-and-squirrel]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

[sikeston bulldog2]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

[moose-and-squirrel]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

it WENT off his glove.. the heel part to boot.. but not an error for me

[sikeston bulldog2]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

it WENT off his glove.. the heel part to boot.. but not an error for me

I must be blind. Thought it missed his glove.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

it WENT off his glove.. the heel part to boot.. but not an error for me

I watched again in slow motion. I did not see it touch his glove.

[Dazepster]

We Stink!
The Yanks Ain't Winning A WS this Season!!

[moose-and-squirrel]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

it WENT off his glove.. the heel part to boot.. but not an error for me

I watched again in slow motion. I did not see it touch his glove.

looked to me like it hit the very bottom of his glove, but could be wrong. regardless, UNDER his glove

[Melville]

Scott and Walker misjudged and missed 2 balls and turned outs into HR's - good effort but poor execution.
Gray was given a 3-run lead at home after putting his team in an 0-2 first inning hole - and rather than step up, he imploded.
That was the game.

If you’re calling the play at the wall misjudging, I disagree. After such a long run at top speed, it would have been a great catch.

No one has mentioned but, most CFers wouldn’t have even hot there. He was flying.

might wanna watch that again.. Scott is going about half speed the last 20 yds.. maybe trying to time his jump? but he should have had that. been a great catch? sure, but makeable. the Walker one he never had a chance on, as the ball beat him to the wall

Yea I thought he was cooking. I’m sure there was some body slowdown at the end I may not have seen well. I think many to most CF would not have got that close.

If it goes off his glove, you giving an error?

it WENT off his glove.. the heel part to boot.. but not an error for me

I watched again in slow motion. I did not see it touch his glove.

looked to me like it hit the very bottom of his glove, but could be wrong. regardless, UNDER his glove

Correct.
Great effort.
Missed the ball.
That simple.