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18th in attendance

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Not good for Cards history of attendance.
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It’s a poor product.

People are wise to reject it.
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45s wrote: 17 Aug 2025 06:25 am It’s a poor product.

People are wise to reject it.
Poor, expensive product with management that alienates its customers
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Seems about right for discretionary spending.
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wallsn5461 wrote: 17 Aug 2025 05:45 am Not good for Cards history of attendance.
If they had pursued a proper rebuild since mid-2023, which I'd define as something more than just processing expiring contracts, attendance might have been worse these past two seasons, but it would at least have the feeling of purpose behind it.

Whether current mgmt is incapable of, or being blocked from, doing this, you can decide for yourself. But a "reset" that seems to have as a strategy remaining a ~ .500 team that can nominally chase the 3rd WC makes for a longer road back to true competitiveness...and more robust attendance.
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wallsn5461 wrote: 17 Aug 2025 05:45 am Not good for Cards history of attendance.
In a three way tie for 17th in overall W/L record. A fan base that was duped with farewell tours and bobble head nights has not bought this milk toast meh product. Can we just go ahead and bring on Bloom and Cerfollio? This sentimental soft landing for Mo is killing this team and its fans.
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There are reasons for the lackluster attendance. IMO here they are, not in any order:

Fan frustration/mediocre product. BDW and POBO have hurt the product with multiple years of bad decisions. From Dexter Fowler Brett Cecil and Mike Leake to Miles Mikolas and Eric Fedde it's just been a litany of poor decisions and talent evaluations.

The weather. It's either been raining or hotter than the surface of Mercury seemingly every home stand. That certainly hasn't helped.

Cost of attendance. The Cardinals have some of the highest ticket and concession prices in MLB. It's been a few years since I've been but I bought beers, hot dogs and Cokes at Yankee Stadium cheaper than Busch. Add in parking, which I know the team doesn't control most of it and going to a game, especially as a family, has gotten out of reach for a lot of people. And BDW is saying season ticket prices might go up 15% next year? Insanity.

Just my 2 pennies.
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reson8 wrote: 17 Aug 2025 07:47 am There are reasons for the lackluster attendance. IMO here they are, not in any order:

Fan frustration/mediocre product. BDW and POBO have hurt the product with multiple years of bad decisions. From Dexter Fowler Brett Cecil and Mike Leake to Miles Mikolas and Eric Fedde it's just been a litany of poor decisions and talent evaluations.

The weather. It's either been raining or hotter than the surface of Mercury seemingly every home stand. That certainly hasn't helped.

Cost of attendance. The Cardinals have some of the highest ticket and concession prices in MLB. It's been a few years since I've been but I bought beers, hot dogs and Cokes at Yankee Stadium cheaper than Busch. Add in parking, which I know the team doesn't control most of it and going to a game, especially as a family, has gotten out of reach for a lot of people. And BDW is saying season ticket prices might go up 15% next year? Insanity.

Just my 2 pennies.
Investment vs Return

Time, comfort, cost, safety vs poor play by mediocre players and a dysfunctional organization

I'm surprised they draw as many as they do
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Absolut wrote: 17 Aug 2025 06:35 am
45s wrote: 17 Aug 2025 06:25 am It’s a poor product.

People are wise to reject it.
Poor, expensive product with management that alienates its customers
so true, both of you
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nighthawk wrote: 17 Aug 2025 06:37 am Seems about right for discretionary spending.
True.
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Not saying he'd fill the stadium but what a STUPID missed marketing opportunity BDWJr/Mo are making by keeping JJW down in Memphis when they could interject some life in this fan base by bringing him up and he's earned a promotion. :roll:

MORONS
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:00 am Not saying he'd fill the stadium but what a STUPID missed marketing opportunity BDWJr/Mo are making by keeping JJW down in Memphis when they could interject some life in this fan base by bringing him up and he's earned a promotion. :roll:

MORONS
He will represent the new Bloom regime in 2026. Don’t want to bring him up now..
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I remember when some posted attendance was down because school was not out, then it was the rain, then it was the summer heat.
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rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:00 am Not saying he'd fill the stadium but what a STUPID missed marketing opportunity BDWJr/Mo are making by keeping JJW down in Memphis when they could interject some life in this fan base by bringing him up and he's earned a promotion. :roll:

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Not to mention how the team is currently 3 position players short and calling up JJ will not hurt his time clock situation.
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12xu wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:04 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:00 am Not saying he'd fill the stadium but what a STUPID missed marketing opportunity BDWJr/Mo are making by keeping JJW down in Memphis when they could interject some life in this fan base by bringing him up and he's earned a promotion. :roll:

MORONS
Not to mention how the team is currently 3 position players short and calling up JJ will not hurt his time clock situation.
I disagree. He seems to be grooming for third. That position is currently being auditioned for by Gorman and Saggese. There, right there, is a no go.

Then his at bats will not be predictable spread out and sparse. He won’t get into a rythm like everyday play.

I see no benefit in him up. Cup of coffee is a myth. Goes cold real fast.
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Cranny wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:03 am
rockondlouie wrote: 17 Aug 2025 09:00 am Not saying he'd fill the stadium but what a STUPID missed marketing opportunity BDWJr/Mo are making by keeping JJW down in Memphis when they could interject some life in this fan base by bringing him up and he's earned a promotion. :roll:

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He will represent the new Bloom regime in 2026. Don’t want to bring him up now..
Why?

Idiotic not to bring him up so he can get his feet wet, meet his teammates, find a place to live and learn St. Louis, experience big league travel, the media, ect......

And JJW/Doyle etal acquired in the past two seasons ALREADY represent the new Bloom regime, don't have to wait for 2026 for that.
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