GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
The chances Marmol is giving Saggese is similar to the chances he finally gave Burleson earlier in Burly's career. He must see something he likes about him. Both Burleson, then, and Saggese, now, got some opportunities due to injuries to others. If Marmol is back and Arenado is not. I could see Saggese in the starting infield in addition to Wetherholt.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.

Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
I'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Might be their only option to acquire a needed starter.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Donovan and St. Alec. Time to pursue higher upsides.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Just some future Heads Up
I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.
Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.
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And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.
I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.
Forever a Cards Fan,
Craviduce
I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.
Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.
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And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.
I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.
Forever a Cards Fan,
Craviduce

Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
You're correct in that when JJ comes up, he'll startShady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
after that it's all intertwined. Assuming your guess to be correct with Donovan,
then Saggese/Gorman could platoon.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
You did and then some. Thank you. If I'm available tomorrow I can fill in. I hope all your kids' weddings are as festive as Connie Corleone's.craviduce wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:19 pm Just some future Heads Up
I won't be around tomorrow (Sunday) to start your GDT. Sorry.
Also, starting this Monday through the end of the season, I will not be able to start GDT's for Day games during the week. If we have a day game, then someone else start the GDT. Normal Fall duties kick in.
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And, I think this will likely be my last season starting GDT's. My wife and I will be traveling quite a bit next Late Winter into Early Summer.
I hope I did ScottsRolen proud, as well as the rest of you.
Forever a Cards Fan,
Craviduce![]()
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Maybe,JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:17 pmMight be their only option to acquire a needed starter.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
Donny IMO has greater appeal to contend now teams. They're less
likely to ditch pitch but it does happen. India got Singer.
AB, Noot Plus, Herrera Plus. could also work.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Well Sonny is due for a stinker and Fried will roll thru that lineup like a hot knife thru butter
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
I think Noot is on the trade block as well. Maybe Burleson. I think they hang on to Herrera.renostl wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:29 pmMaybe,JuanAgosto wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:17 pmMight be their only option to acquire a needed starter.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
Donny IMO has greater appeal to contend now teams. They're less
likely to ditch pitch but it does happen. India got Singer.
AB, Noot Plus, Herrera Plus. could also work.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Saggesse as an everyday player isn't a good move, he'd get exposed real quickly.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
But Donny could indeed be dealt, along w/Burleson and/or Noot and a catcher or two.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Cardinals Stats for August so far...
LineUp
.224 .283 .347 .630 Masyn Winn
.229 .283 .292 .575 Alec Burleson
.277 .340 .383 .723 Iván Herrera
.265 .257 .441 .698 Lars Nootbaar
.237 .275 .316 .591 Jordan Walker
.265 .359 .382 .741 Nolan Gorman
.294 .314 .324 .638 Thomas Saggese
.400 .464 .760 1.224 Pedro Pagés
.179 .233 .214 .448 Victor Scott II
Bench
.241 .361 .483 .844 Willson Contreras (unavailable)
.206 .229 .235 .464 Brendan Donovan (unavailable)
.150 .227 .150 .377 Yohel Pozo (invisible)
.000 .000 .000 .000 Garrett Hampson (unadvisable)
LineUp
.224 .283 .347 .630 Masyn Winn
.229 .283 .292 .575 Alec Burleson
.277 .340 .383 .723 Iván Herrera
.265 .257 .441 .698 Lars Nootbaar
.237 .275 .316 .591 Jordan Walker
.265 .359 .382 .741 Nolan Gorman
.294 .314 .324 .638 Thomas Saggese
.400 .464 .760 1.224 Pedro Pagés
.179 .233 .214 .448 Victor Scott II
Bench
.241 .361 .483 .844 Willson Contreras (unavailable)
.206 .229 .235 .464 Brendan Donovan (unavailable)
.150 .227 .150 .377 Yohel Pozo (invisible)
.000 .000 .000 .000 Garrett Hampson (unadvisable)
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
Was about to post the same. There's an article on homepage of stltoday "Cardinals prospect JJ Wetherholt 'pretty confident' in his defense as he adjusts to third." I'm assuming it's behind the stltoday paywall so haven't read it but the title pretty much speaks for itself.Shady wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:09 pmI'm seeing Wetherholt starting at 3B and Saggese starting at 2B. It wouldn't surprise me if Donovan is traded for starting pitching help.rockondlouie wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 14:04 pm Thx duce
And if Saggesse is our starting 3rd baseman in 2026, then we're doomed again.![]()
They clearly have 0 faith in Gorman's ability to be a future 3rd baseman.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Yankees (8/16) ~ 6:15pm CDT
CT refuses to see selling Hurdy Gurdy. Still believes in Just Worthless and the KKorn...well, truly only one (bleep) that says, it's never about him, believes there's nothing like him