Lineup ~ Herrera to Cleanup, Winn to 2 hole.

[craviduce]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

[Shady]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

[RamFan08NY]

I like it too. Took a long time to realize Ivan isn't a #2 hitter.

[DickyBennett]

Is Fake Tough Guy Contreas out with a sore foot?

[hmoss859]

Is Fake Tough Guy Contreas out with a sore foot?

Well, he snapped a bat over his knee after he got hit (he broke it first slamming it to ground), maybe he has multiple bruises.

Dude might want to get out the way sometimes.

[CCard]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I think Gorman should be swapped with Walker.

[rightthinker4]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Pallante is the key tonight.

[Jatalk]

Donovan out again

[Melville]

I like it too. Took a long time to realize Ivan isn't a #2 hitter.

Even worse fit in the middle of the lineup.
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

[Melville]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

[Ozziesfan41]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

No cardinal is hitting for power. Herrera has as many home runs and more doubles than the great power hitting Nolan Gorman and Herrera is hitting .368 .451 1.030 with runners in scoring position and .288 .369 .829 with men on while Gorman is completely useless at .176 .253 .591 with runners in scoring position and .221 .294 .736 with men on. So the logic is since no one is hitting for power go for the one who isn’t useless with men on its sound logic

[Braund241]

Burleson batting 3rd. Tells you everything you need. Roster is horrible.

[Melville]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

No cardinal is hitting for power. Herrera has as many home runs and more doubles than the great power hitting Nolan Gorman and Herrera is hitting .368 .451 1.030 with runners in scoring position and .288 .369 .829 with men on while Gorman is completely useless at .176 .253 .591 with runners in scoring position and .221 .294 .736 with men on. So the logic is since no one is hitting for power go for the one who isn’t useless with men on its sound logic

Obviously, I was right yet again.
Herrera is one of the team's best singles hitters.
And one of the worst at producing XBH's.
Just about the last guy you want at cleanup - other than Scott or Hampson.
Facts.
Free of bias.
Free of agenda.
All I do.

[Ozziesfan41]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

No cardinal is hitting for power. Herrera has as many home runs and more doubles than the great power hitting Nolan Gorman and Herrera is hitting .368 .451 1.030 with runners in scoring position and .288 .369 .829 with men on while Gorman is completely useless at .176 .253 .591 with runners in scoring position and .221 .294 .736 with men on. So the logic is since no one is hitting for power go for the one who isn’t useless with men on its sound logic

Obviously, I was right yet again.
Herrera is one of the team's best singles hitters.
And one of the worst at producing XBH's.
Just about the last guy you want at cleanup - other than Scott or Hampson.
Facts.
Free of bias.
Free of agenda.
All I do.

What did Gorman do with runners in scoring position he has as many home runs and fewer doubles than Herrera and he’s supposed to be a power hitter that’s a unicorn according to you lol and Gorman is completely useless with runners on base and in scoring position unlike Herrera who hits well in those situations

[Melville]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

No cardinal is hitting for power. Herrera has as many home runs and more doubles than the great power hitting Nolan Gorman and Herrera is hitting .368 .451 1.030 with runners in scoring position and .288 .369 .829 with men on while Gorman is completely useless at .176 .253 .591 with runners in scoring position and .221 .294 .736 with men on. So the logic is since no one is hitting for power go for the one who isn’t useless with men on its sound logic

Obviously, I was right yet again.
Herrera is one of the team's best singles hitters.
And one of the worst at producing XBH's.
Just about the last guy you want at cleanup - other than Scott or Hampson.
Facts.
Free of bias.
Free of agenda.
All I do.

What did Gorman do with runners in scoring position he has as many home runs and fewer doubles than Herrera and he’s supposed to be a power hitter that’s a unicorn according to you lol and Gorman is completely useless with runners on base and in scoring position unlike Herrera who hits well in those situations

You may want to re-read the subject line of this thread.
The topic is Herrera as a clean-up hitter.
My analysis, as always, was accurate because it is fact based.
There is no discussion of Gorman at clean-up, to the best of my knowledge.
Let's stay on-topic.

[Ozziesfan41]

Donovan2B
WinnSS
Burleson1B
HerreraDH
NootbaarLF
Gorman3B
Walker, JRF
Pagés, PC
Scott IICF

GDT ....soonish

I like the moves. Then put Contreras at #5 when he returns.

Are you sure about that?
Herrera is a better cleanup option than Contreras?
Herrera:
4 XBH's in 68 June PA's.
1 XBH's in 60 July PA's.
3 XBH's in 46 August PA's.
That is 8 XBH's in his last 174 PA's.
Bad.
Really bad.
Worse than most backup, end of the bench, middle infielders.

No cardinal is hitting for power. Herrera has as many home runs and more doubles than the great power hitting Nolan Gorman and Herrera is hitting .368 .451 1.030 with runners in scoring position and .288 .369 .829 with men on while Gorman is completely useless at .176 .253 .591 with runners in scoring position and .221 .294 .736 with men on. So the logic is since no one is hitting for power go for the one who isn’t useless with men on its sound logic

Obviously, I was right yet again.
Herrera is one of the team's best singles hitters.
And one of the worst at producing XBH's.
Just about the last guy you want at cleanup - other than Scott or Hampson.
Facts.
Free of bias.
Free of agenda.
All I do.

What did Gorman do with runners in scoring position he has as many home runs and fewer doubles than Herrera and he’s supposed to be a power hitter that’s a unicorn according to you lol and Gorman is completely useless with runners on base and in scoring position unlike Herrera who hits well in those situations

You may want to re-read the subject line of this thread.
The topic is Herrera as a clean-up hitter.
My analysis, as always, was accurate because it is fact based.
There is no discussion of Gorman at clean-up, to the best of my knowledge.
Let's stay on-topic.

Well with the injuries Herrera is the best available to hit clean up because he actually hits very well with runners in scoring position.