Saggese looks solid at 3B and 2B defensively

[NYCardsFan]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

[Shady]

Just had a nice hit against a tough pitcher.

6.50 ERA is tough these days?

you're supposed to be better than that.

Pretty tough tonight, Craviduce. Given up one run so far. By the away, why would you make a troll post like that? Cause there are no MILB gsmes tonight?

Wow how the standards have fallen. Is that Pedro Martinez out there? No it's a guy with an ERA worse than Fedde

Saggese’s 3 out of 4 tonight.

Saggese has upped his BA to .258. Contreras is at .256. Gorman's is .226.

I like his ”all out” play. And he’s only 23 years old.
Could have a bright future.

Some don't seem to care for Burleson and Saggese as players. Probably, mostly, because I do. LOL Saggese does give really good effort as does Burleson. They will continue to get quite a lot out of their abilities. IMO

[Cranny]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

[JDW]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

[rockondlouie]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Very creepy, even stalker-like when someone on here starts asking for personal information.

[dugoutrex]

better than Norman at either position

[Cranny]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

[craviduce]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

[Shady]

I continue to hear chatter of Saggese, possibly, getting some work next spring training in the outfield.To enhance his value of a utility type player. In the radio conversation it was opinionated that Saggese has shown more athleticism in the last couple weeks with the Cardinals.

[craviduce]

I continue to hear chatter of Saggese, possibly, getting some work in next spring training in the outfield.To enhance his value of a utility type player.

if you can hit, you can play anywhere....you might not be great, good, average at the position...but you'll get playing time.

If you can't hit, then it doesn't matter where you can play...you'll be the 25-26th man on the roster sitting on the bench. Getting part time play, or more play with a lot of injuries infront of you.

[Cranny]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

[Banner29]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

If he didn’t answer you the first time it means he doesn’t want to tell you. Nobody is obligated to present you with personal information upon your request. Understand that instead of calling people out as secretive or call it bizzare that they aren’t giving non baseball information on a baseball forum to some random weirdo that nobody likes.

Grow up and act your geriatric age. And most importantly keep it to baseball.

[craviduce]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

you ask Once for it to be as you said "a very innocent ask". He ignored you, so you leave it at that. Instead, you stalked him 4 or 5 more times demanding where he's from... That's creepy, trolling, harassing. It's beneath the moniker and squeaky clean image you love to trumpet. Who cares if he challenged your opinion on the internet. That's how these forums function. They don't function for you to go unchallenged. And he wasn't talking to you anyways. He was correcting/disputing something Shady was purporting.

You have whined incessantly in the past about a poster or two on here that "stalks" you... the Irony here is THICK.

[Cranny]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

If he didn’t answer you the first time it means he doesn’t want to tell you. Nobody is obligated to present you with personal information upon your request. Understand that instead of calling people out as secretive or call it bizzare that they aren’t giving non baseball information on a baseball forum to some random weirdo that nobody likes.

Grow up and act your geriatric age. And most importantly keep it to baseball.

Got it Banner. Thanks for your opinion. Have a stupendous day, sir.

[Cranny]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

you ask Once for it to be as you said "a very innocent ask". He ignored you, so you leave it at that. Instead, you stalked him 4 or 5 more times demanding where he's from... That's creepy, trolling, harassing. It's beneath the moniker and squeaky clean image you love to trumpet. Who cares if he challenged your opinion on the internet. That's how these forums function. They don't function for you to go unchallenged. And he wasn't talking to you anyways. He was correcting/disputing something Shady was purporting.

You have whined incessantly in the past about a poster or two on here that "stalks" you... the Irony here is THICK.

Irony, Craviduce. Got it. By the way, you’re a terrific poster - when you stay within your area of expertise. You really are. But Gags, BRuby, etc. would never pile on like have started to do. So hold your head high and stay above it. Stay pure.

[Imperial Capitalist]

You’re the one comparing stats, with no reference to ML experience (PAs) or age.

No, I was clearly (and directly) replying to and criticizing Shady’s comparison of those three largely unrelated players based on their batting averages. I then provided the same comparison based on their overall offensive productivity, and then asked “What’s your point?” to make clear I thought the comparison itself lacked context and was pointless (I even noted how small the sample size is for Saggese). Interesting how you chose to snip all of that context out of your reply above.

If you have an issue with comparing those three particular players, why don’t (didn’t) you take it up with Shady—you know, the guy who was actually making the comparison? But no, you were perfectly fine with Shady’s post—in fact, you even replied favorably to it. Then, in the next breath, you go out of your way to try to pick an argument with me for criticizing that comparison.

Per AnExParrot’s prior comment in this thread, and for the sake of variety, maybe try actually reading posts carefully before you respond to them for a change. And because I know how exceedingly important is to you to always have the last word, I will now gladly cede the floor and end this “conversation” from my end. Find someone else to troll.

I don’t troll, NY. I just post like everyone else.
By the way, why are you so secretive about where you live in New York? Or came from in New York?
It’s bizarre why you won’t answer such a simple and innocent question.

What's the matter with you?
It's none of your business, geesh.

Most people on CT are congenial, JDW, and enjoy learning things about each other - the general area (city) where they live or grew up, where they went to high school, where they went to college, if they were in the military, the type of work they do (or did), how many games a year they go to, when they started being a Cardinal fan, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all. It’s inherent in human nature to learn about others.

it has nothing to do with baseball. It's an intimidation tactic. It's really sad. When you lose an argument, you go personal and very low with insults. Clever as you might think they are, it's really weak, but that's your modus operandi.

And when people say "You're better than that", we expect better from the guy who professes to have never been in trouble with a MOD.

Craviduce - it’s truly beneath you to troll me like that. You’re much better. People are always trying to find things in common with other people on here.
Outside of baseball. Please don’t try to deny that.

I’ve asked NY multiple times what region he is from in NY state. I went to school in the state, that’s why I have an interest. It’s a very innocent ask. And not out of line at at.

you ask Once for it to be as you said "a very innocent ask". He ignored you, so you leave it at that. Instead, you stalked him 4 or 5 more times demanding where he's from... That's creepy, trolling, harassing. It's beneath the moniker and squeaky clean image you love to trumpet. Who cares if he challenged your opinion on the internet. That's how these forums function. They don't function for you to go unchallenged. And he wasn't talking to you anyways. He was correcting/disputing something Shady was purporting.

You have whined incessantly in the past about a poster or two on here that "stalks" you... the Irony here is THICK.

Irony, Craviduce. Got it. By the way, you’re a terrific poster - when you stay within your area of expertise. You really are. But Gags, BRuby, etc. would never pile on like have started to do. So hold your head high and stay above it. Stay pure.

The posters from the past whom you hold in such high regard likely never dealt with someone who pulls the type of s-h-i-t that you do around here.

As such, it's hardly fair to suggest what they would or would not do.