First woman umpire debuts
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Re: First woman umpire debuts
the one highlight showed by espn during the cards game was new ump calling a strike 3 on a pitch way, way inside. Then espn sugar coated by summarizing the games performance as a pitchers umpire, which likely means strikes called on pitches out of the zone . stats posted here seem to back up lower level performance . Ump needs to do significantly better. Sex irrelevant. It is what it is.
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David Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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Eduardo Perez??Goldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 15:06 pmDavid Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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explain gino auriemma for me then? this has been a great and enlightening discussion and i like all opinions including this one.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:40 pmNothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.ecleme22 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:06 pmSo what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 10:03 amBy stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 09:57 amwho said anything about a guarantee ?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 08:34 amWhy is it long overdue?imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 22:08 pmBecause it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?
I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
Use whatever definition you want
Cool.
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isn't this a 'she is qualified' or 'she isn't qualified' issue? i don't see how you are able to make this fit into your political bubble -- this is baseball. the best statement in this whole thread was if we don't hear complaints or people talking about her (except for the obvious of being the first) then she is doing a good job!Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:27 amLeftists are obsessed with race and gender
Any space that is all men = evil in their minds. And so it must be invaded by women in order to be pure.
It's a very F'd up mental disease they have
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don't you think she has the right to learn and get better?? if she doesn't then figure something else out --- i'd rather have an ump trying hard and not making themself the center of the game when behind the plate ... looking at you angel hernandez.... how the hell is he still in the league?Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:01 pm The token DEI hire was awful behind the plate.
Missing the first pitch by 8 inches
She ranked 13th out of 15 HP umpires in her first game and was below league average. Pathetic.
Let's celebrate all the progress that was made
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Peter gammons? When did he play in the big leagues? Buster olney? Tim kurkjian?Goldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 15:06 pmDavid Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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lol --- or buster olney and tim kurkjian?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:47 pmPeter gammons? When did he play in the big leagues?Goldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 15:06 pmDavid Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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Beat me to it I was adding them lolgreyhawk wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:52 pmlol --- or buster olney and tim kurkjian?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:47 pmPeter gammons? When did he play in the big leagues?Goldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 15:06 pmDavid Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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i bet kurkjian had a mean 65 mph fastball and 45 mph eephus pitch 

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Review what a Play-by-play, analyst, and sideline reporter are……Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:53 pmBeat me to it I was adding them lolgreyhawk wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:52 pmlol --- or buster olney and tim kurkjian?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:47 pmPeter gammons? When did he play in the big leagues?Goldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 15:06 pmDavid Cone??Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 14:35 pmThey had better fire the male analysts who never played MLB baseball also thenGoldfan wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 12:25 pm This is like when ESPN had the gal on their Sunday night braodcast…..Why???
She’s there to be an analyst…..her experience is telling how she did things playing SOFTBALL…..Not the same sport
No experience on the baseball diamond and certainly not close to anything MLB
But hey…..Breaking down those walls……![]()
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Example for you
PBP-Danny Mac
Analyst- Al Hrabosky
Sideline reporter- Jimmy the Cat
The reporter isn’t in the booth……the ESPN gal was an “Analyst” along with Arod.
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Re: First woman umpire debuts
What is there to explain? There have been more men coaches than women. Just a historical fact. Not right or wrong, just the way it's been.greyhawk wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 17:32 pmexplain gino auriemma for me then? this has been a great and enlightening discussion and i like all opinions including this one.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:40 pmNothing coincidental about it. It is a man's sport. That doesn't mean that's wrong. Simply fact.ecleme22 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 19:06 pmSo what you’re saying is though baseball has been around for 150+ years, it’s simply a coincidental statistical anomaly that there has never been a woman umpire?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 10:03 amBy stating that it is long overdue, it is essentially stating that there needs to be a woman umpire.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 09:57 amwho said anything about a guarantee ?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑07 Aug 2025 08:34 amWhy is it long overdue?imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑06 Aug 2025 22:08 pmBecause it is long past due, that’s why.
Because the sexist walls continue to crumble. And that’s something to celebrate.
why is any specific gender, in any arena of business, supposed to be guaranteed a job in that arena?
I don't care personally, doesn't effect me in anyway shape or form, but what difference does it make?
Use whatever definition you want
Cool.
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They are journalists, not in the booth analysts.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 18:27 pmAnd I’m sure Pete the bambino gammons was launching them
Into the upper deck I think he had a couple of 40-40 seasons before he got off the steroids
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I default to a baseline of expected hardcore baseball knowledge when communicating with CTers…..assuming they would be hardcore to log in hereTheJackBurton wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:13 amThey are journalists, not in the booth analysts.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 18:27 pmAnd I’m sure Pete the bambino gammons was launching them
Into the upper deck I think he had a couple of 40-40 seasons before he got off the steroids
That apparently is a mistake……
Some of these posters make me wonder if they even watch MLB…..


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You just said analyst in your post. All of the ones we mentioned were and are listed as analystsGoldfan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 12:12 pmI default to a baseline of expected hardcore baseball knowledge when communicating with CTers…..assuming they would be hardcore to log in hereTheJackBurton wrote: ↑12 Aug 2025 10:13 amThey are journalists, not in the booth analysts.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025 18:27 pmAnd I’m sure Pete the bambino gammons was launching them
Into the upper deck I think he had a couple of 40-40 seasons before he got off the steroids
That apparently is a mistake……
Some of these posters make me wonder if they even watch MLB…..![]()
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