Offer Sheets

[DawgDad]

My question, given how low-hanging that fruit was (not just in hindsight, but objectively), was DA the first or the only one to jump in w/ os's ? Had the vague impression there'd been other suitors. But maybe his offers were significantly better than the competition. Anyone have the inside story on all that ?

Holloway I'm not sure about, but there were reports that Broberg got other offers that he turned down and they were at least for equal value as to what the Blues offered.

Now maybe he turned them down because they were early in RFA and he felt he could get more, or because they were for teams he didn't want to play for, or maybe he was still holding out hope Edmonton would come back with a solid offer (with the fact he requested a trade and saw what happened on July 1 this would be the least likely scenario)

He knew he'd look good in Blue, and boy does he!

[rezero]

Aren’t offer sheet very rare? I think there have only been 13 ever that were issues and accepted (or declined to be matched by current club). They only happen once every couple of years.

[dhsux]

Aren’t offer sheet very rare? I think there have only been 13 ever that were issues and accepted (or declined to be matched by current club). They only happen once every couple of years.

Yes I think you are right.

But I thought just maybe the door would open wider for certain specific players.

For one example we all discussed whether Hofer would get a 2nd level offer. He didn't but if he had he would likely be gone. I was thinking players like that might be in play for aggressive buyers who would take a speculative but educated chance and overpay.

I was wrong about this.

[Hockey Pete]

It took so many factors to make the EDM offer sheets successful. First off I don’t think there has ever been a double offer sheet(s) before. The fact that both players were also so unproven with little NHL experience helped the Blues a lot.

If either Holloway or Broberg were given the proper opportunities in EDM then they would have been signed/matched. It’s insane that players drafted so high in 2019 and 2020 still didn’t get much of a look before last season.

You won’t see an organization fail in their young talent evaluation, cap management, and be in a GM transition all at the same time very often (to say the least).

The lack of a look at the players is one thing, but Edm didn’t have to go out and sign Skinner and whoever else on July 1 either. They both got enough of a look in the playoffs to attract Army’s attention. It’s on Edm to take care of their own before signing from outside

Winner - Winner Chicken Dinner...

The fact is, they could have signed both for a shade less than $5.5 Million in bridge deals (Holloway for $2M and Broberg for $3-3.5M), as they were both coming off their entry deals and just looking for a commitment. We overpaid a bit for both (at that time) to put them out of Oiler's range, but our offer's were right there as far as the play they were showing at the end of the previous season.

[MikoTython]

Aren’t offer sheet very rare? I think there have only been 13 ever that were issues and accepted (or declined to be matched by current club). They only happen once every couple of years.

Yes I think you are right.

But I thought just maybe the door would open wider for certain specific players.

For one example we all discussed whether Hofer would get a 2nd level offer. He didn't but if he had he would likely be gone. I was thinking players like that might be in play for aggressive buyers who would take a speculative but educated chance and overpay.

I was wrong about this.

Well, this season. The cap won't be increasing every season, so in a different environment, you could see scenarios arising where a cap-strapped team leaves a maturing prospect RFA under-paid.

[TAFKAP]

Armstrong made the point that he wouldn't offer sheet a player that he didn't think he could actually get. I think all of them think that way.

When did Army take over? I forget but the Blues offer sheeted Steve Bernier just days after VAN traded for his rights. It was payback for Backes. Vancouver matched but it screwed up their plans.

[SRV1990]

Aren’t offer sheet very rare? I think there have only been 13 ever that were issues and accepted (or declined to be matched by current club). They only happen once every couple of years.

According to the data provided in the following link, there have been 44 offer sheets signed since 1986, whether matched, not matched or dropped:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N ... fer_sheets

The Blues are one of the participating teams in 14 of those situations (either the original team or the offering team.

[Tony Palazzolo]

Armstrong made the point that he wouldn't offer sheet a player that he didn't think he could actually get. I think all of them think that way.

When did Army take over? I forget but the Blues offer sheeted Steve Bernier just days after VAN traded for his rights. It was payback for Backes. Vancouver matched but it screwed up their plans.

That was John Davidson not Army. Yes it was a shot at Vancouver and a message to the rest of the teams.