As one of the older posters on CT

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I have to say all the negative posts on internet web pages, including Cards' Talk are disheartening.
It just seems like people simply love to hate and look for any opportunity and excuse to express that hate.
The posts on Arenado are cruel; it is like people have no respect or honor.
Always remember that baseball players have families that read the posts and are affected. The player can take it but think about the children. Think, people, before you post.

I know this will be blown off my many, some will think it funny and post hateful posts in this very thread. The first response to a post is always some wise-[ash] remark.

Life is short and meant to be enjoyed and productive.

One day you will regret remarks that tear people down rather than build them up.

The older generation knows grew up believing that if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.

Better that people think you are a nice person than prove you are not.

Whatever, I'm sure this is just going to be laughed off by most of you.

Opti

How old ae you and how long have you been a Cardinal fan?

Not the OP but 79 and started following the Cards avidly in 1954. I had started following baseball in 1953 listening to Browns games on the radio and became a fan of Satchel Paige. My Dad took me to my first MLB game at Sportsman’s Park near the end of the 53 season to see Paige pitch.

Fun stuff Chitown, you watched some history right there.

[Sheepdawg]

I have to say all the negative posts on internet web pages, including Cards' Talk are disheartening.
It just seems like people simply love to hate and look for any opportunity and excuse to express that hate.
The posts on Arenado are cruel; it is like people have no respect or honor.
Always remember that baseball players have families that read the posts and are affected. The player can take it but think about the children. Think, people, before you post.

I know this will be blown off my many, some will think it funny and post hateful posts in this very thread. The first response to a post is always some wise-[ash] remark.

Life is short and meant to be enjoyed and productive.

One day you will regret remarks that tear people down rather than build them up.

The older generation knows grew up believing that if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.

Better that people think you are a nice person than prove you are not.

Whatever, I'm sure this is just going to be laughed off by most of you.

Opti

How old ae you and how long have you been a Cardinal fan?

First Cards game was in the 50's in Sportsmans Park against the Dodgers. Frank Howard was in right field for the Dodgers. Stan Musial homered for the Cardinals. Been a Cards fan all my life. KMOX was the key.

Sounds about 1960. I have a few years on you, but great memories.

Sounds like you are right. I asked Grok on Twitter and Grok said: The most likely game is September 16, 1963, at Sportsman’s Park, where the St. Louis Cardinals faced the Los Angeles Dodgers, and Stan Musial hit his 475th and final home run off Johnny Podres. Frank Howard was likely in right field for the Dodgers, given his role that season.

Opti

Not this game. Although Frank Howard was the Dodgers primary right fielder in 1963, he didn't play in the September 16 game. Wally Moon was in right field for Los Angeles that night. Musial did hit his 475th and final HR in this game. If the game occurred in 1963, it would have been the game on May 8th. However, I thought you said earlier that your first game was in the 1950s?

On Sept. 17 Musial met Koufax for the last time. In the 7th inning Musial broke up Koufax's no hitter with a single to center.

[BrummerStealsHome]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Every generation has its saints and its scoundrels. Virtue isn’t inherited with age. It’s earned through individual choices. We all make our choices.

Experience brings wisdom. Wisdom fosters virtue. Or at least they tend to.

[justin17]

On Sept. 17 Musial met Koufax for the last time. In the 7th inning Musial broke up Koufax's no hitter with a single to center.

The Cards had won 10 games in a row to move to within one game of the first-place Dodgers in 1963. The Dodgers were coming to town for a three-game series (Sept. 16, 17, 18). I can still remember my excitement more than 60 years later. If the Cards could sweep, they would be up by 2 games over LA. Even winning two of the three games meant a tie for first place.

My dreams were shattered when the Dodgers swept the Cards and left town 4 games ahead. I knew there would be no pennant for STL in 1963. This was also the farewell season of my hero Stan The Man.

Fortunately, things picked up in 1964. They traded for Brock and won the first World Championship of my lifetime.

[desertrat23]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Ridiculous and inaccurate.

[icon]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Ridiculous and inaccurate.

No kidding. Nothing like gross generalizations and stereotyping.

[ramfandan]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Ridiculous and inaccurate.

No kidding. Nothing like gross generalizations and stereotyping.

I am an older poster and yes older ones do have a Monopoly . They also played Clue, Risk , and other board games when we were teens.
If you understand that it was Colonel Mustard with the Lead Pipe in the Study .. then yes you have a CLUE about the older generation.

[scoutyjones2]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Ridiculous and inaccurate.

No kidding. Nothing like gross generalizations and stereotyping.

I am an older poster and yes older ones do have a Monopoly . They also played Clue, Risk , and other board games when we were teens.
If you understand that it was Colonel Mustard with the Lead Pipe in the Study .. then yes you have a CLUE about the older generation.

[ramfandan]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Every generation has its saints and its scoundrels. Virtue isn’t inherited with age. It’s earned through individual choices. We all make our choices.

Experience brings wisdom. Wisdom fosters virtue. Or at least they tend to.

Cardinals formerly had Wisdom but they got rid of him .

[sikeston bulldog2]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Not a monopoly, true. But more of it, for sure.

Ridiculous and inaccurate.

No kidding. Nothing like gross generalizations and stereotyping.

I am an older poster and yes older ones do have a Monopoly . They also played Clue, Risk , and other board games when we were teens.
If you understand that it was Colonel Mustard with the Lead Pipe in the Study .. then yes you have a CLUE about the older generation.

Monopoly taught how to make and use money in real estate. The best game was SORRY. Both it and aggrevation, were stellar.

Not far behind was Yahtzee.

[AnExParrot]

I have to say all the negative posts on internet web pages, including Cards' Talk are disheartening.
It just seems like people simply love to hate and look for any opportunity and excuse to express that hate.
The posts on Arenado are cruel; it is like people have no respect or honor.
Always remember that baseball players have families that read the posts and are affected. The player can take it but think about the children. Think, people, before you post.

I know this will be blown off my many, some will think it funny and post hateful posts in this very thread. The first response to a post is always some wise-[ash] remark.

Life is short and meant to be enjoyed and productive.

One day you will regret remarks that tear people down rather than build them up.

The older generation knows grew up believing that if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.

Better that people think you are a nice person than prove you are not.

Whatever, I'm sure this is just going to be laughed off by most of you.

Opti

How old ae you and how long have you been a Cardinal fan?

First Cards game was in the 50's in Sportsmans Park against the Dodgers. Frank Howard was in right field for the Dodgers. Stan Musial homered for the Cardinals. Been a Cards fan all my life. KMOX was the key.

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

True. Hate is as old as mankind. Make it stop with you. You never are sorry you were too kind.

Opti

That's quite naive. I've been too kind on many an occasion and been more sorry for what it cost me than any mean thing I've ever done. From sanity to relationships to property, being too kind has definitely hurt me more than being too mean.

[AnExParrot]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Very true. They just have more experience.

At being terrible to other people

Thanks for saying it.

Respect your elders, why, because they were born before me? Every time I've ever heard that ridiculous phrase it was from someone who didn't like the reaction their disrespect brought back to them.

[AnExParrot]

I have to say all the negative posts on internet web pages, including Cards' Talk are disheartening.
It just seems like people simply love to hate and look for any opportunity and excuse to express that hate.
The posts on Arenado are cruel; it is like people have no respect or honor.
Always remember that baseball players have families that read the posts and are affected. The player can take it but think about the children. Think, people, before you post.

I know this will be blown off my many, some will think it funny and post hateful posts in this very thread. The first response to a post is always some wise-[ash] remark.

Life is short and meant to be enjoyed and productive.

One day you will regret remarks that tear people down rather than build them up.

The older generation knows grew up believing that if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.

Better that people think you are a nice person than prove you are not.

Whatever, I'm sure this is just going to be laughed off by most of you.

Opti

How old ae you and how long have you been a Cardinal fan?

First Cards game was in the 50's in Sportsmans Park against the Dodgers. Frank Howard was in right field for the Dodgers. Stan Musial homered for the Cardinals. Been a Cards fan all my life. KMOX was the key.

Sounds about 1960. I have a few years on you, but great memories.

Sounds like you are right. I asked Grok on Twitter and Grok said: The most likely game is September 16, 1963, at Sportsman’s Park, where the St. Louis Cardinals faced the Los Angeles Dodgers, and Stan Musial hit his 475th and final home run off Johnny Podres. Frank Howard was likely in right field for the Dodgers, given his role that season.

Opti

Baseball reference has Wally Moon in RF for that game. Grok still has a lot of work to do, apparently.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxe ... 9160.shtml

[sikeston bulldog2]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Very true. They just have more experience.

At being terrible to other people

Thanks for saying it.

Respect your elders, why, because they were born before me? Every time I've ever heard that ridiculous phrase it was from someone who didn't like the reaction their disrespect brought back to them.

I’m 69. So I’m both old enough yet young. I’ve always said, a human will bring you down. Sooner or later, no matter the type relationship, someone is gonna become dependent.

Some like it that way. I’ve learned after 50 years of needing someone, that aloneness is a domain untapped.

[WLTFE]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Very true. They just have more experience.

At being terrible to other people

Thanks for saying it.

Respect your elders, why, because they were born before me? Every time I've ever heard that ridiculous phrase it was from someone who didn't like the reaction their disrespect brought back to them.

+1

[sikeston bulldog2]

The message is an admirable one, but the generational patronizing isn’t necessary.

Older folks don’t have a monopoly on virtue.

Very true. They just have more experience.

At being terrible to other people

Thanks for saying it.

Respect your elders, why, because they were born before me? Every time I've ever heard that ridiculous phrase it was from someone who didn't like the reaction their disrespect brought back to them.

+1

I agree. Chit in chit out. I’m a sayings believer. Treat others as you want to be treated works more times than it don’t.