The Cardinals Way

[ilcubuffs]

Anyone really believe:

1. MO Ran and the Marmot know who Kissel was?

2. MO Ran and Marmot have the intellectual ability to understand Cardinal Way and Kissel?

NO to both and the primary reason the Cards are failing.

[WLTFE]

Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Agreed. Shildt probably us not the best strategist and i am not sure about BP usage, but his teams do not tend to defeat themselves on fundamentals and he doesnt have the oli mindset on losing. But Shildt was a long termer the Cardinal''s system, so Im not surprised he has that old school outlook.

I agree about Shildt's handling of the bullpen. And I wasn't a huge fan. But he did clean up the fundamentals as cards manager. He was gifted Kissell's binder after George's death. Im sure he took it to SD when he left.

I wonder if Bloom will receive a copy of "Mo's Way"?

Mo-ran's Way.. 'how to be a arrogant snob and be a millionaire!'...and leave the team in much worse shape!

'How to anger an entire fanbase by driving a winning franchise off a cliff'.

But...but...they won 90+ games!!!...why are the fans (upset)?

[JuanAgosto]

Kissell's version of the "Cardinals Way" ended when Mozeliak fired Shildt. The full transition to analytics was made then.

Agreed. Shildt probably us not the best strategist and i am not sure about BP usage, but his teams do not tend to defeat themselves on fundamentals and he doesnt have the oli mindset on losing. But Shildt was a long termer the Cardinal''s system, so Im not surprised he has that old school outlook.

I agree about Shildt's handling of the bullpen. And I wasn't a huge fan. But he did clean up the fundamentals as cards manager. He was gifted Kissell's binder after George's death. Im sure he took it to SD when he left.

I wonder if Bloom will receive a copy of "Mo's Way"?

Mo-ran's Way.. 'how to be a arrogant snob and be a millionaire!'...and leave the team in much worse shape!

'How to anger an entire fanbase by driving a winning franchise off a cliff'.

But...but...they won 90+ games!!!...why are the fans (upset)?

90 wins 3 years ago. 90 losses 2 years ago. Maybe 90 losses THIS year. Who was the last StL manager to experience two 90 loss seasons?

[sdaltons]

Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

The Cardinal Way is just about how to play fundamental baseball. They are still teaching fundamentals in the minors the last time I checked.....

I was at the game Tuesday. Witnessed several fundamental mistakes. Perhaps they should also be teaching them in the majors?

[Cranny]

Anyone really believe:

1. MO Ran and the Marmot know who Kissel was?

2. MO Ran and Marmot have the intellectual ability to understand Cardinal Way and Kissel?

NO to both and the primary reason the Cards are failing.

Mo has been in the Cardinals organization for 30 years. He knew Kissel well. Guess you forgot that.

[Clubmaker2]

Is saying you will count on your farm system and then massively failing on developing and building industry standard farm system infrastructure, "the cardinal way?"

[Strummer Jones]

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Has Kissell's the Cardinals Way finally been terminated?

Actually, no. If you listen to interviews with Bloom and Cerfolio, they refer to it and respect it.

Mo sure hasn't in recent years.

Listen, I'm gonna need some patience on that.