does anybody really think herrera can play the outfield

[AnExParrot]

he is slow as all hell...for the record ozuna was a gold glover early on....we shall see I guess

He was a gold glover because of his bat, as many GG winners were over the years. Sure, the award is supposed to be about defense only, but it's been obvious to any fan how many times the bat was what the vote was about.

Edit to add: he wasn't "a gold glover early on" - he won a GG the season before the Cardinals traded for him, and only that season. That's it.

Raphael Palmiero won a GG at first base for a season in which he played fewer than 30 games(28) at the position(first base) - 1999, look it up. There are other examples, but that one takes the cake.

In short, if you refuse to look at advanced defensive metrics to judge defense, then don't bring up a [shirt]ty fielder winning a GG.

[Wattage]

he is slow as all hell...for the record ozuna was a gold glover early on....we shall see I guess

He was a gold glover because of his bat, as many GG winners were over the years. Sure, the award is supposed to be about defense only, but it's been obvious to any fan how many times the bat was what the vote was about.

If you watch high lightsnof ozuna as a marlin, he actually did play.much better defense, was faster as he hadnt gained a ton of weight yet, and even had 10 outfield assists in a season

He got fat and lazy with us losing his speed and abiljty to throw out runners. I cant explain why he totally lost all abiljty to judge flyballs too making 2 embarrassing plays where henjumpednup on wall only for ball to fall short but it happened

[AnExParrot]

he is slow as all hell...for the record ozuna was a gold glover early on....we shall see I guess

He was a gold glover because of his bat, as many GG winners were over the years. Sure, the award is supposed to be about defense only, but it's been obvious to any fan how many times the bat was what the vote was about.

If you watch high lightsnof ozuna as a marlin, he actually did play.much better defense, was faster as he hadnt gained a ton of weight yet, and even had 10 outfield assists in a season

He got fat and lazy with us losing his speed and abiljty to throw out runners. I cant explain why he totally lost all abiljty to judge flyballs too making 2 embarrassing plays where henjumpednup on wall only for ball to fall short but it happened

I'll grant that, but there is no way in hell the season he did win one was based solely on his glove - it's shocking he won his only gold glove in his best season at the plate(aside from the SSS covid-2020 season).

That aside, jbrach's words make it seem like he was a regular GG winner, early in his career, when the guy was only awarded one. He won A(single) GG, he wasn't a gold glover.

[JDW]

he is slow as all hell...for the record ozuna was a gold glover early on....we shall see I guess

He's about 2'/sec. faster than Burleson last time I checked. That's significant.

[JDW]

Why is Herrera being placed in left field? Wouldn’t he be more effective as the DH? Or is there someone else we’re considering who might be a better fit for that role?

Genuinely curious, I’m not sure what the reasoning is.

You add value by increasing the positional flex of a player. It adds value not only to the player, but also any team he plays for.

[ecleme22]

I think it’s totally fair to judge IH’s OF worth based on one game.

[rockondlouie]

100%

Why I first suggested it last season.

From L. Brock to L. Smith to C. Duncan to A. Burleson we've seen (likely) worse OF'ers play out there.

D. Kingman-G. Luzinski-TGKS.

As long as he hits, then this is a great move!

[scoutyjones2]

his bat definitely warrants a spot but the idea that he can play the outfield seems far fetched at best

Have you ever seen Ozuna climb the OF wall….with the ball landing at the front warning track
Have you ever seen lil Dunc track a fly ball
Have you ever seen Holliday take a liner off his junk

Holliday...penis fly catcher

[Goldfan]

100%

Why I first suggested it last season.

From L. Brock to L. Smith to C. Duncan to A. Burleson we've seen (likely) worse OF'ers play out there.

D. Kingman-G. Luzinski-TGKS.

As long as he hits, then this is a great move!

What about DRS or WAR……oh My !!!

[rockondlouie]

100%

Why I first suggested it last season.

From L. Brock to L. Smith to C. Duncan to A. Burleson we've seen (likely) worse OF'ers play out there.

D. Kingman-G. Luzinski-TGKS.

As long as he hits, then this is a great move!

What about DRS or WAR……oh My !!!

If he puts up an .800+ OPS and drives in 80+ runs, who cares!

[bccardsfan]

Hey, with IH going to LF "it's just like making a trade"!

[JDW]

I think it’s totally fair to judge IH’s OF worth based on one game.

Who is?
Oh yeah, nobody.

[jbrach]

he is slow as all hell...for the record ozuna was a gold glover early on....we shall see I guess

He was a gold glover because of his bat, as many GG winners were over the years. Sure, the award is supposed to be about defense only, but it's been obvious to any fan how many times the bat was what the vote was about.

If you watch high lightsnof ozuna as a marlin, he actually did play.much better defense, was faster as he hadnt gained a ton of weight yet, and even had 10 outfield assists in a season

He got fat and lazy with us losing his speed and abiljty to throw out runners. I cant explain why he totally lost all abiljty to judge flyballs too making 2 embarrassing plays where henjumpednup on wall only for ball to fall short but it happened

I'll grant that, but there is no way in hell the season he did win one was based solely on his glove - it's shocking he won his only gold glove in his best season at the plate(aside from the SSS covid-2020 season).

That aside, jbrach's words make it seem like he was a regular GG winner, early in his career, when the guy was only awarded one. He won A(single) GG, he wasn't a gold glover.

he did win a gold glove so he was indeed a gold glover...the only reason I mention it is because peopel were comparing ozuna to herrera in the outfield

[jbrach]

100%

Why I first suggested it last season.

From L. Brock to L. Smith to C. Duncan to A. Burleson we've seen (likely) worse OF'ers play out there.

D. Kingman-G. Luzinski-TGKS.

As long as he hits, then this is a great move!

What about DRS or WAR……oh My !!!

If he puts up an .800+ OPS and drives in 80+ runs, who cares!

if he has an 800 OPS and is a butcher in the outfield everyone will care...if he has a 1000 OPS they wont

[bccardsfan]

100%

Why I first suggested it last season.

From L. Brock to L. Smith to C. Duncan to A. Burleson we've seen (likely) worse OF'ers play out there.

D. Kingman-G. Luzinski-TGKS.

As long as he hits, then this is a great move!

What about DRS or WAR……oh My !!!

If he puts up an .800+ OPS and drives in 80+ runs, who cares!

if he has an 800 OPS and is a butcher in the outfield everyone will care...if he has a 1000 OPS they wont

The kid is reasonably athletic. I'm sure he will learn to be an adequate left fielder. The problem is that should happen in spring training. We shall see how fast he learns in the middle of the season. I realize that some guys never learned to track fly balls, but most guys can play a passable left field. Look at Burley. I would expect Herrera to be at least at that level eventually. The question is how fast can he get there? This team isn't going anywhere, even if they make the final wild card by some fluke. So it's not like it will be a huge deal if Herrera costs them a game with a bad play.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I am ok with him learning on the fly in a season that is most likely not ending on a high. He can be one of the most meaningful stories of the last part of the season. Getting a head start on his future and the team core.