Nice post and well-stated.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:05 pmDewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.
You lack long term vision, for one if you trade Donnie and get 1-2 top shelf prospects as a MOTOB or #1-2 SP you do it. You then have JJ at 2nd which is a good bet, plus the strengthened SP or MOTOB pipeline. You keep Donnie, then what? You have a solid 1-2 hitter for a terrible team that isn't going anywhere. So he is essentially wasted here.
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"for one if you trade Donnie and get 1-2 top shelf prospects as a MOTOB or #1-2 SP you do it". One or the other for Donovan. The other for Helsley. That's what Mo needs to secure this week. Both with a high % chance of being ready late this season, early '26.Bomber1 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 15:17 pmNice post and well-stated.Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:05 pmDewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.
You lack long term vision, for one if you trade Donnie and get 1-2 top shelf prospects as a MOTOB or #1-2 SP you do it. You then have JJ at 2nd which is a good bet, plus the strengthened SP or MOTOB pipeline. You keep Donnie, then what? You have a solid 1-2 hitter for a terrible team that isn't going anywhere. So he is essentially wasted here.
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Sooo, a contending team is going to trade their game 2 playoff starter for Brendan Donovan? I don't think so.3dender wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:39 pmWhat if Donovan gets you a solid #2 starter? Then it's Gorman + Pitcher >>>> DonovanDewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.
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Agreed. Donovan only has two more arb years and is having the best season of his career. By the time the Cardinals are good again, Donovan is in his 30s and possibly wouldn't get extended. I would be comfortable with the Cardinals trading him, but I'd prefer the new regime does it in the offseason. I also don't expect a TOR starter in return. Probably more like one or two team top 10 prospects.blackinkbiz wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:01 pmHate to tell you but Gorman's not THAT bad at 2b and of course, Wetherholt's probably manning that position in the future.Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.
This team is likely not to be competitive until at least 2027-28, especially with what's likely to be a paradigm-shifting CBA after next season.
If some team is willing to give a haul for Donny, it'd be borderline idiotic NOT to do it. Donny's a great player but he's not a MOTO bat so Cards need core pieces before they should concern themselves with paying a lot to complementary players.
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What if monkey’s and unicorns start flying out of my (bleep)scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:49 pmDonovan is nothing but meh at 2b. What if he brings back a RH OFer? Power bat? Starting pitcher?Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.![]()
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LolAbsolut wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 13:12 pmIf you think that’s the most idiotic thought, you must be new.Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.
That's for sure.
Have a few worthy contenders for that honor myself!!!
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You'd enjoy it?Goldfan wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 16:31 pmWhat if monkey’s and unicorns start flying out of my (bleep)scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:49 pmDonovan is nothing but meh at 2b. What if he brings back a RH OFer? Power bat? Starting pitcher?Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 12:36 pm My vote for most idiotic thought of the year on CT!
"Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd"
Yes, lets weaken our defense and offense all in one simple move at one position. Must have some of Mo and Oli's DNA in you.![]()
HueyDueyLuey isn't all the bright![]()
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My thing is, we get a decent player, and everybody wants to trade him to improve other areas, well, how often has that worked?
Why don’t we get rid of the guys not doing their parts, and try somebody else in their spots. Sure, you won’t get as much for them, in trade, but we haven’t weakened ourselves in doing so. I’d like to see what Donovan, Herrera, and Wetherholt could do hitting together.
Why don’t we get rid of the guys not doing their parts, and try somebody else in their spots. Sure, you won’t get as much for them, in trade, but we haven’t weakened ourselves in doing so. I’d like to see what Donovan, Herrera, and Wetherholt could do hitting together.
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What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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Lighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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Hey did you read what was said to me? Why the [fork] should I lighten up? Did it hurt your feelings too or something?WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:07 pmLighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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Lighten up buttercup!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:22 pmHey did you read what was said to me? Why the [fork] should I lighten up? Did it hurt your feelings too or something?WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:07 pmLighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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No thanks. I'll keep the butthurt going. It seems to really get to you. Hell I might make you one of my personal puppets. I post yank a string and you follow.WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:24 pmLighten up buttercup!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:22 pmHey did you read what was said to me? Why the [fork] should I lighten up? Did it hurt your feelings too or something?WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:07 pmLighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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Stop drinking dummy...no one gives a [fork] about what you're talking about sweetie!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:30 pmNo thanks. I'll keep the butthurt going. It seems to really get to you. Hell I might make you one of my personal puppets. I post yank a string and you follow.WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:24 pmLighten up buttercup!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:22 pmHey did you read what was said to me? Why the [fork] should I lighten up? Did it hurt your feelings too or something?WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:07 pmLighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.
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Oh yes, you give a [fork] and now I own you. Lets pull those strings a little tighter and watch you jig. *yank* *yank*WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:33 pmStop drinking dummy...no one gives a [fork] about what you're talking about sweetie!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:30 pmNo thanks. I'll keep the butthurt going. It seems to really get to you. Hell I might make you one of my personal puppets. I post yank a string and you follow.WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:24 pmLighten up buttercup!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:22 pmHey did you read what was said to me? Why the [fork] should I lighten up? Did it hurt your feelings too or something?WLTFE wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:07 pmLighten up Francis!!Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 20:04 pm What is wrong with 90% of you here? I never said don't trade Donovan, I never said Donovan was a great 2nd baseman.
I said people who thinks "Trade Donovan and just play Gorman at 2nd" are thinking like Mo and Oli.
I never said JJ wouldn't be at second. I never said you wouldn't get a good return if Donovan was traded.
Now for all you smart (bleep), I said if you trade Donovan and play Gorman at second base you weaken the team's offense and defense both with that one move. Whether it's for one game ot 100 games. Now for all you baseball Einsteins ,prove me wrong. Especially you who say I'm not to bright and likes to name call. I especially await your alcohol induced response.