200 IP

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

Post Reply
Futuregm2
Forum User
Posts: 7832
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:18 pm

200 IP

Post by Futuregm2 »

Will there be one pitcher with 200 innings pitched this season? Last season 4 pitchers made the 200+ IP threshold.

It’s July 28th and there is 1 pitcher with 140+ IP, which is Garrett Crochet. Beyond him there are only 5 more pitchers with at least 130 IP. It would take a really solid 2 months of starts from those guys to get there.
WLTFE
Forum User
Posts: 2192
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:49 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by WLTFE »

Apparently the game has changed.
dugoutrex
Forum User
Posts: 372
Joined: 24 Jun 2025 13:18 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by dugoutrex »

for the better
Ozziesfan41
Forum User
Posts: 5522
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:01 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

150 is the new 200. I thought it was funny after fedde was traded I looked him up on baseball reference and saw he was still tied for the league in shutouts with 1 lol the games changed a lot
Dazepster
Forum User
Posts: 830
Joined: 23 May 2024 16:32 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Dazepster »

Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Strummer Jones
Forum User
Posts: 1368
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:55 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Strummer Jones »

Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
Ozziesfan41
Forum User
Posts: 5522
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:01 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
And they’re usually not even a very good five innings
Dazepster
Forum User
Posts: 830
Joined: 23 May 2024 16:32 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Dazepster »

Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.
swatski
Forum User
Posts: 1112
Joined: 25 May 2024 21:40 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by swatski »

dugoutrex wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better
Respectfully disagree.
ScotchMIrish
Forum User
Posts: 681
Joined: 08 Sep 2024 21:25 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by ScotchMIrish »

Ozziesfan41 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:07 pm 150 is the new 200. I thought it was funny after fedde was traded I looked him up on baseball reference and saw he was still tied for the league in shutouts with 1 lol the games changed a lot
Without looking it up I'd bet he will be the only pitcher this decade to throw a 110 pitch complete game with a 10 run lead.
dugoutrex
Forum User
Posts: 372
Joined: 24 Jun 2025 13:18 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by dugoutrex »

swatski wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:30 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better
Respectfully disagree.
to each his own - I love most all of the changes over the past few years and look forward to an automated strike zone too!
Futuregm2
Forum User
Posts: 7832
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:18 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Futuregm2 »

dugoutrex wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:03 pm for the better
I don’t think it’s for the better at all. It’s not like less pitchers are getting hurt. It makes it harder on hitters as well since the relievers are coming in fresh in the middle to late innings. That creates less action IMO since generally speaking relievers are better at striking out hitters than SPs are. To me there is little good about a SP pitching less.
HorseTrader
Forum User
Posts: 2262
Joined: 18 Apr 2020 13:40 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by HorseTrader »

Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:24 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.
The pitching coaches who taken a broken down pile of nothing and turn it into a 15-20 game winner
Dazepster
Forum User
Posts: 830
Joined: 23 May 2024 16:32 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Dazepster »

HorseTrader wrote: 28 Jul 2025 18:11 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:24 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
Agree.

Also miss the pitching whisperer managers who simply had a knack for knowing when to go get em and when to leave em alone.

That decision making has largely been removed through the game. Pitch count, times through the order etc etc has provided a lot of cover for the clueless managers of today.
The pitching coaches who taken a broken down pile of nothing and turn it into a 15-20 game winner
The Pursuit of Baseballs Holy Grail has made him obsolete or a curiosity in today's game.

Holy Grail?
The 100 MPH Minimum arms.
renostl
Forum User
Posts: 2560
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:40 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by renostl »

Ozziesfan41 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:22 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
And they’re usually not even a very good five innings
They can be pitching very well. They give up a leadoff hit in the 5th or 6th
and are yanked.
Strummer Jones
Forum User
Posts: 1368
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:55 pm

Re: 200 IP

Post by Strummer Jones »

Ozziesfan41 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:22 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:20 pm
Dazepster wrote: 28 Jul 2025 17:18 pm Sometimes wonder how guys ever got there Post the Advent of the 5 Man rotations.

With a 5 Man staff you might only get 30-32 starts. 30 starts of basically 7 innings a start. Haven't seen many of those in seemingly forever.
Jeff Suppan used to be a shoo in for 200IP.

I kinda miss those days. I find the "five and dive" very uninspiring.
And they’re usually not even a very good five innings
Nope. I'd understand if it was five innings and you gassed 12 hitters on strikes. That's bound to eat up a lot of pitches. But I don't see that often.
Post Reply