McGreevy is the second best SP in the organization

[scoutyjones2]

Mikolas + Fedde this season in 37 combined starts: 0.4 fWAR in 208.1 innings.

McGreevy: 0.4 fWAR in 4 starts and 22.2 innings.

Nice work, Mozeliak! Outstanding judgment in a "runway" season.

From Bernie

So 4 starts vs 38... was McG gonna be pitching the other 34 starts?

[ggnoobs]

I am worried that McGreevy could be a Mikolas lite. He's a very low walk and low strikeout pitch to contact guy like Mikolas. So far he has been able to prevent homeruns. But I am worried that the homeruns against him will come and it could blow up.

[Goldfan]

I am worried that McGreevy could be a Mikolas lite. He's a very low walk and low strikeout pitch to contact guy like Mikolas. So far he has been able to prevent homeruns. But I am worried that the homeruns against him will come and it could blow up.

You see Miles and McGreevy pitch and see the same pitcher??

[ggnoobs]

I am worried that McGreevy could be a Mikolas lite. He's a very low walk and low strikeout pitch to contact guy like Mikolas. So far he has been able to prevent homeruns. But I am worried that the homeruns against him will come and it could blow up.

You see Miles and McGreevy pitch and see the same pitcher??

I don't "see the same pitcher." I see a very similar statistical profile. McGreevy does not strike people out, he pitches to contact, like Mikolas.

Mikolas career k/9 is 6.5
McGreevy career k/9 so far is 6.1

Mikolas h/9 and bb/9 this year (this awful year) is 9.6 and 2.1 respectively.
McGreevy at AAA this year is at is a very similar 9.4 and 1.8.

McGreevy doesn't really walk people, which is a great thing. Mikolas is similar and lead the league in bb/9 a couple years.

I'm just saying they both pitch to contact and don't strike people out. So, that's a recipe that can go south fast. I could see McGreevy beginning to give up a lot of homeruns because his overall stuff is not dominant, much like Mikolas.

[rockondlouie]

And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.

His refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).

You honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replace

Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or

Lizard Puke, $18.5 million

For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?

Yep

Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:

McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP

I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).

This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?

And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?

I posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.

I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG

You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?

I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.

They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go

Gotcha on your response to GF.

McG could easily have filled one slot Mikolas if he was DFA'd (again, BDWJr ok'd J. Peralta's DFA so he will do it).

After Fedde is dealt (or DFA'd) then Oli could use G. Graceffo (Last 9 IP/1.00 ERA/9 KO's) in his place or even structure some bullpen games.

[Goldfan]

And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.

His refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).

You honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replace

Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or

Lizard Puke, $18.5 million

For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?

Yep

Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:

McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP

I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).

This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?

And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?

I posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.

I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG

You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?

I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.

They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go

Gotcha on your response to GF.

McG could easily have filled one slot Mikolas if he was DFA'd (again, BDWJr ok'd J. Peralta's DFA so he will do it).

After Fedde is dealt (or DFA'd) then Oli could use G. Graceffo (Last 9 IP/1.00 ERA/9 KO's) in his place or even structure some bullpen games.

Exactly Rock, theres no way hell that McG/Graff would have been as bad as the old fart…..and it would’ve been fulfilling the PLAN to PLAY YUTES in 2025. What was the point of holding on to a 33yr Fedde after the season he had(sell HIGH) when it was season of YOUTH
I said at the time when everyone was saying show case these bums of trade deadline.
What about the negative showcase……what do you get for them then?? And here we are

[rockondlouie]

And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.

His refusal to bring McG up and keep him up while allowing Mikolas and Fedde to lose game after game is indeed managerial malpractice, something Mo's bene doing now for some time and I've also been saying (for three years now).

You honestly thought they'd bring up a rookie to replace

Fedde, $7.5 million, a 2024 3.72 and 1.204 WHIP, or

Lizard Puke, $18.5 million

For McG? Who had, in 2024, a 5.04 and 1.307?

Yep

Not sure where your numbers come from since for his MLB career:

McGreevy
7 GS
9 GP
2.98 ERA
0.92 WHiP

I'd have DFA'd lizard breath long ago (BDWJr has okayed this before...re: J. Peralta).

This is supposedly a "runway" season, correct?

And McG is definitely one of the young planes who should've been on that runway, correct?

I posted numbers from 2024. It's right there in the post.

I just posted this in response to Goldfan...who seems to be Shadying McG

You think the farm could fill in for those 2 pitchers 38 games started this year so far? The 5-6 double headers where pitchers were called up?

I have no issue with Fedde. He's cheap and takes innings during a year where there aren't a plethora of SPs in the farm. Lizard Puke I've not appreciated since he was first brought over...but there's nothing on the pipeline that would cover those 2 being gone this season.

They are both, no longer hear next year and it's ridiculous to think they'd just eat lizard Pukes $'s and let him go

Gotcha on your response to GF.

McG could easily have filled one slot Mikolas if he was DFA'd (again, BDWJr ok'd J. Peralta's DFA so he will do it).

After Fedde is dealt (or DFA'd) then Oli could use G. Graceffo (Last 9 IP/1.00 ERA/9 KO's) in his place or even structure some bullpen games.

Exactly Rock, theres no way hell that McG/Graff would have been as bad as the old fart…..and it would’ve been fulfilling the PLAN to PLAY YUTES in 2025. What was the point of holding on to a 33yr Fedde after the season he had(sell HIGH) when it was season of YOUTH
I said at the time when everyone was saying show case these bums of trade deadline.
What about the negative showcase……what do you get for them then?? And here we are

They'd have been exponentially better!

[ggnoobs]

I am worried that McGreevy could be a Mikolas lite. He's a very low walk and low strikeout pitch to contact guy like Mikolas. So far he has been able to prevent homeruns. But I am worried that the homeruns against him will come and it could blow up.

You see Miles and McGreevy pitch and see the same pitcher??

I don't "see the same pitcher." I see a very similar statistical profile. McGreevy does not strike people out, he pitches to contact, like Mikolas.

Mikolas career k/9 is 6.5
McGreevy career k/9 so far is 6.1

Mikolas h/9 and bb/9 this year (this awful year) is 9.6 and 2.1 respectively.
McGreevy at AAA this year is at is a very similar 9.4 and 1.8.

McGreevy doesn't really walk people, which is a great thing. Mikolas is similar and lead the league in bb/9 a couple years.

I'm just saying they both pitch to contact and don't strike people out. So, that's a recipe that can go south fast. I could see McGreevy beginning to give up a lot of homeruns because his overall stuff is not dominant, much like Mikolas.

I'm sure the lack of K's won't ever hurt him, probably won't even come up.

[bfib]

Just another pitch to contact guy

Ahem

[dugoutrex]

kinda scary

[Joseph-Magrane]

It’s amazing that one team can collect so many SPs who have a 5.xx K/9

[ScotchMIrish]

Poor h/9 in milb and college doesn't normally equate to success in MLB but time will tell. Still learning.

[icon]

And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.

I forgot to ask, who’s the best.

Mo’s a trained accountant. In his thinking, a little ROI is better than no ROI.

Accountants should know about the concept of sunk costs. He is clueless about that.

[82birds]

And Mo buried him behind Mikolas and Fedde. Total organizational malpractice.

I forgot to ask, who’s the best.

Mo’s a trained accountant. In his thinking, a little ROI is better than no ROI.

Accountants should know about the concept of sunk costs. He is clueless about that.

he's clued in on bow ties.
that's about it

[butsir01]

All the other pitchers in the organEYEzation are tied for first?