Gray willing to waive NTC?

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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:20 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:27 pm
45s wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:23 pm
kyace wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:15 pm Watching pod cast today and Erik Ktatz stated while Sonny wasn’t willing to waive his NTC in the off season he told him he may be willing to waive it to go to a contender at the trade deadline
He’s coming up on 36…..easy to understand he might want an opportunity to win…

Although that 35 mil he is owed next year will scare a lot of teams off…
Bet if the Reds wanted him ( was with them previously ) he would waive to them as he previously has said the reason he signed with Cardinals was that St. Louis wasn't too far from his Nashville area home. Cincy would be even closer .
Cincinnati is indeed closer to Nashville, by a whole 15 miles.

Though I honestly trust the Cardinals to be more of a contender and spend money than I do Cincinnati.
A Mapquest I used had 42 miles closer but either way just a bit closer. Atlanta is also closer than St.Louis to Sonny’s home.
They are not currently in the hunt though.
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Melville wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:11 pm There is zero truth to the story.
Gray has been very clear he has zero interest in playing far from home.
The currently contending teams who could afford him happen to be in the very locations in which he has no interest.
He goes nowhere at the deadline.
I mean, the Cardinals could afford to pay down his salary especially if it increased the return on the package. But DeWitt won't do that.
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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 18 Jul 2025 18:09 pm
ICCFIM2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm
Goldfan wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:25 pm Interesting that he doesn’t think he’s currently on a contender…..or the club can be formed into a contender
There’s Always Next Year…..
The context of the OP doesn't say when Sonny said this. He might have said it before the season began. So, he might believe in this team...
I saw that. Kratz wasn't quoting Sonny Gray, he was speculating.
I’m sure it was but I was thinking Kratz as a former catcher maybe used to play with Sonny and may have talked to him. I think it is unlikely he is traded but if the Cards are out of the race closer to the deadline maybe. I guess it depends on what’s more important to him, a chance for a ring or play out his remaining years close to home. I think it is the latter.
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fastest way to put 2026 season in the toilet? Does anyone see the cards signing two number 2 type starters in off season if they trade Gray?
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:22 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Wonder if Atlanta would have interest? Or if he would agree to join NYY, Boston, TOR, LA, or SD? Would Mo dare trade him to the Cubs or Brewers?
What part of contender led you to the Braves? :lol:
If they can get their pitching in order, they could go on a run. The offense is good enough.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 23:44 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:22 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Wonder if Atlanta would have interest? Or if he would agree to join NYY, Boston, TOR, LA, or SD? Would Mo dare trade him to the Cubs or Brewers?
What part of contender led you to the Braves? :lol:
If they can get their pitching in order, they could go on a run. The offense is good enough.
10 games below 500.
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Reds aren't a contender, neither are the Braves.

I don't trust Mo to get full value for him (even w/C. Bloom's input since Mo still has final say).

I'd hang onto him and let Bloom deal him in the offseason (if he'll waive) or at next seasons deadline.
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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 23:44 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:22 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Wonder if Atlanta would have interest? Or if he would agree to join NYY, Boston, TOR, LA, or SD? Would Mo dare trade him to the Cubs or Brewers?
What part of contender led you to the Braves? :lol:
If they can get their pitching in order, they could go on a run. The offense is good enough.
The offense is too sporadic even if they could get their pitching in order, which is doubtful. As a minimum they need two starters. If they hover around .500 that will be an accomplishment.
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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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rightthinker4 wrote: 19 Jul 2025 08:36 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 23:44 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:22 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Wonder if Atlanta would have interest? Or if he would agree to join NYY, Boston, TOR, LA, or SD? Would Mo dare trade him to the Cubs or Brewers?
What part of contender led you to the Braves? :lol:
If they can get their pitching in order, they could go on a run. The offense is good enough.
The offense is too sporadic even if they could get their pitching in order, which is doubtful. As a minimum they need two starters. If they hover around .500 that will be an accomplishment.
agree 100%
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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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rightthinker4 wrote: 19 Jul 2025 08:36 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 23:44 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 20:22 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 18 Jul 2025 17:37 pm Wonder if Atlanta would have interest? Or if he would agree to join NYY, Boston, TOR, LA, or SD? Would Mo dare trade him to the Cubs or Brewers?
What part of contender led you to the Braves? :lol:
If they can get their pitching in order, they could go on a run. The offense is good enough.
The offense is too sporadic even if they could get their pitching in order, which is doubtful. As a minimum they need two starters. If they hover around .500 that will be an accomplishment.
I bet they climb into the wild card race.
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Re: Gray willing to waive NTC?

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Runs scored

Cards
447
#11 in MLB
.252 .322 .393 .715

Braves
395
#22 in MLB
.243 .315 .390 .705

Braves offense sucks, they have no chance of making the playoffs w/o ripping off a miracle 15-20 game winning streak.
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