Walker up, Saggese down

[hmoss859]

Will Walker get at bats with Noot out? I dont see it

Donovan LF
Herrera DH
Burleson RF
Contreas 1B
Gorman 2B
Arenado 3B
Winn SS
Pages C
Scott CF

Bench

Pozo
Walker
Fermin
Hampson

Only against lefty starters, does Walker start I assume unless Mo orders it

[82birds]

Right on the heels of losing his number. Poor Saggese.

LOL

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IMO Saggese has no one to blame but himself.
If he could hit MLB pitching, he wouldn't be getting sent down.
JMO

[rockondlouie]

Walker will get RF vs LHSP, from there he has to earn more playing time.

Vs RHSP:

Donovan LF
Herrera DH
Burleson RF
WillyC 1B
Gorman 2B
Arenado 3B
Pages/Pozo C
Winn SS
Scott CF

Vs LHSP:

Donovan LF
Herrera DH
WillyC 1B
Gorman 2B
Arenado 3B
Walker/RF
Pages/Pozo C
Winn SS
Scott C

[An Old Friend]

Good call on bringing up Walker... 18 Ks in 60 PA while hitting .185.

Guess they're really trying to not burn his option year.

Would you rather have him down now and burn the option year for 2 months or keep him up for the 2.5 months and send him to Memphis next year until he proves he can hit?

They’ve put themselves into a no win position really.

I believe he started his rehab assignment on June 28th, so they didn't have to bring him up, yet.

Seems like they want 10 extra days to evaluate him, specifically.

Saggese going down... easy call. Walker up... something else to it.

[Futuregm2]

Good call on bringing up Walker... 18 Ks in 60 PA while hitting .185.

Guess they're really trying to not burn his option year.

Would you rather have him down now and burn the option year for 2 months or keep him up for the 2.5 months and send him to Memphis next year until he proves he can hit?

They’ve put themselves into a no win position really.

I believe he started his rehab assignment on June 28th, so they didn't have to bring him up, yet.

Seems like they want 10 extra days to evaluate him, specifically.

Saggese going down... easy call. Walker up... something else to it.

Rehab max is 20 days. It’s July 18th, so 28th would have been 20/21 days ago. If they waited I believe they would have had to burn the option.

[Red Bird Classic]

They intend to play him almost everyday. Otherwise they'd leave him in Memphis.

That's what I'm afraid of.... He would be better off finishing the season in Memphis..

This may signal the Cardinals intention for the rest of the season: If they still see this as a rebuilding year, then might as well have Walker here facing big-league pitching. But if you're hoping for a playoff push, it seems less likely now.

[jcgmoi]

I've stated previously that I think Walker is Atlanta bound, with relief pitching coming back.

I think now the Cards will include Saggese for more pitching.

[An Old Friend]

Good call on bringing up Walker... 18 Ks in 60 PA while hitting .185.

Guess they're really trying to not burn his option year.

Would you rather have him down now and burn the option year for 2 months or keep him up for the 2.5 months and send him to Memphis next year until he proves he can hit?

They’ve put themselves into a no win position really.

I believe he started his rehab assignment on June 28th, so they didn't have to bring him up, yet.

Seems like they want 10 extra days to evaluate him, specifically.

Saggese going down... easy call. Walker up... something else to it.

Rehab max is 20 days. It’s July 18th, so 28th would have been 20/21 days ago. If they waited I believe they would have had to burn the option.

You're right, that's my miss. Learned something today, didn't realize pitchers had 30 days but position players had 20.

[Futuregm2]

Good call on bringing up Walker... 18 Ks in 60 PA while hitting .185.

Guess they're really trying to not burn his option year.

Would you rather have him down now and burn the option year for 2 months or keep him up for the 2.5 months and send him to Memphis next year until he proves he can hit?

They’ve put themselves into a no win position really.

I believe he started his rehab assignment on June 28th, so they didn't have to bring him up, yet.

Seems like they want 10 extra days to evaluate him, specifically.

Saggese going down... easy call. Walker up... something else to it.

Rehab max is 20 days. It’s July 18th, so 28th would have been 20/21 days ago. If they waited I believe they would have had to burn the option.

You're right, that's my miss. Learned something today, didn't realize pitchers had 30 days but position players had 20.

It’s all good, the one thing I don’t know about is how the break affects it because full season minor leagues are on a break this week, too. Is it straight 20 days no matter what or does the break extend that 20 days a little bit?

[RunSup]

Will Walker get at bats with Noot out? I dont see it

Donovan LF
Herrera DH
Burleson RF
Contreas 1B
Gorman 2B
Arenado 3B
Winn SS
Pages C
Scott CF

Bench

Pozo
Walker
Fermin
Hampson

There will be a shuffle around 2B and 3B between Gorman, Donovan, and Arenado. When Donovan is at 2B, a corner OF spot opens.

Likewise there will be a shuffle between RF, DH and sometimes 1B

There are 4 starts a week for both Walker and Gordon.

If Hampson or Fermin see any time in RF or LF, Oli has screwed this up and should be fired for incompetence.

This is still a runway season. Dont be fooled. They are pretenders, not contenders in 2025. Just look who the SP is 3 out of 5 games. Plus Libby is getting gassed.

And trading Helsley, Maton and Matz by the deadline is just the smart thing to do. I don't expect the Cardinals to be smart here. They are conflicted and wish washy.

[DickyBennett]

Another problem they have is the subpar defense in LF, RF and 2B with the shuffle

[Carp4Cy]

He can't play over Burly or Herrera. I'm not sure where he's going to get playing time since those are the only 2 positions that he can play, RF and DH..

He wasn't full time when he was here, so let's see how this plays out. He's likely back on the bench, and only playing vs. LHP.

It doesn't matter who plays, we're not contenders/buyers.

We're, hopefully, in showcase mode the next 13 days. Showcasing our selling chips.

I'm fine with him primarily being a bench guy. I just don't want him playing over any hot bats...

We certainly don't have 9 hot bats

[slimjay63801]

He can't play over Burly or Herrera. I'm not sure where he's going to get playing time since those are the only 2 positions that he can play, RF and DH..

He wasn't full time when he was here, so let's see how this plays out. He's likely back on the bench, and only playing vs. LHP.

It doesn't matter who plays, we're not contenders/buyers.

We're, hopefully, in showcase mode the next 13 days. Showcasing our selling chips.

I'm fine with him primarily being a bench guy. I just don't want him playing over any hot bats...

We certainly don't have 9 hot bats

Right! Who knows what this team will look like tonight after almost a week off. They don't need to throw Walker out there everyday though. JMO

[Carp4Cy]

He can't play over Burly or Herrera. I'm not sure where he's going to get playing time since those are the only 2 positions that he can play, RF and DH..

He wasn't full time when he was here, so let's see how this plays out. He's likely back on the bench, and only playing vs. LHP.

It doesn't matter who plays, we're not contenders/buyers.

We're, hopefully, in showcase mode the next 13 days. Showcasing our selling chips.

I'm fine with him primarily being a bench guy. I just don't want him playing over any hot bats...

We certainly don't have 9 hot bats

Right! Who knows what this team will look like tonight after almost a week off. They don't need to throw Walker out there everyday though. JMO

Not everyday, but they could put him out there tonight and then make decisions on a day by day basis on how he looks and how healthy everyone seems. He might cork one in the desert.

Gorman does need to play at Coors though.

[imetsatchelpaige]

He can't play over Burly or Herrera. I'm not sure where he's going to get playing time since those are the only 2 positions that he can play, RF and DH..

He wasn't full time when he was here, so let's see how this plays out. He's likely back on the bench, and only playing vs. LHP.

It doesn't matter who plays, we're not contenders/buyers.

We're, hopefully, in showcase mode the next 13 days. Showcasing our selling chips.

Agreed

[slimjay63801]

He can't play over Burly or Herrera. I'm not sure where he's going to get playing time since those are the only 2 positions that he can play, RF and DH..

He wasn't full time when he was here, so let's see how this plays out. He's likely back on the bench, and only playing vs. LHP.

It doesn't matter who plays, we're not contenders/buyers.

We're, hopefully, in showcase mode the next 13 days. Showcasing our selling chips.

I'm fine with him primarily being a bench guy. I just don't want him playing over any hot bats...

We certainly don't have 9 hot bats

Right! Who knows what this team will look like tonight after almost a week off. They don't need to throw Walker out there everyday though. JMO

Not everyday, but they could put him out there tonight and then make decisions on a day by day basis on how he looks and how healthy everyone seems. He might cork one in the desert.

Gorman does need to play at Coors though.

Makes sense! I'll ride with ya on this..