Anyone have a height concern when it comes to Liam Doyle?

[sikeston bulldog2]

I’m not concerned with but one height. How high his fastball rides in the zone. My only height issue.

[DickyBennett]

Billy Wagner was short, they get great ride on their heaters

[Quincy Varnish]

I note that all of the top LH pitchers
are at least 6'4" in height.

Shota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”

Yeah, there are a few with great success
even below 6'0".
I was just asking as I was thinking about
some of the best of the best and they
are generally taller.

It’s more than a few.

Koufax and Spahn already mentioned…

Ron Guidry - 5’11”
Fernando Valenzuela - 5’11”
Johan Santana - 6’0”
Vida Blue - 6’0”
Mike Cuellar - 6’0”
Tom Glavine - 6’0”
Carl Hubbell - 6’0”
Hal Newhouser - 6’2”
Jerry Koosman - 6’2”
Frank Tanana - 6’2”
Lefty Grove - 6’3”

I meant the current crop of pitchers, not all time.

I already named the majority of the current crop of top lefty pitchers, and Skubal is inarguably the best of the best.

[NYCardsFan]

The average height of MLB pitchers in 2025 is approx. 6' 2.5". Doyle is listed at 6' 2".

[Bully4you]

The average height of MLB pitchers in 2025 is approx. 6' 2.5". Doyle is listed at 6' 2".

So, he's below average height.
I thought that may be the case.
Thanks for the info.

[Bully4you]

I note that all of the top LH pitchers
are at least 6'4" in height.

Shota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”

Yeah, there are a few with great success
even below 6'0".
I was just asking as I was thinking about
some of the best of the best and they
are generally taller.

It’s more than a few.

Koufax and Spahn already mentioned…

Ron Guidry - 5’11”
Fernando Valenzuela - 5’11”
Johan Santana - 6’0”
Vida Blue - 6’0”
Mike Cuellar - 6’0”
Tom Glavine - 6’0”
Carl Hubbell - 6’0”
Hal Newhouser - 6’2”
Jerry Koosman - 6’2”
Frank Tanana - 6’2”
Lefty Grove - 6’3”

I meant the current crop of pitchers, not all time.

I already named the majority of the current crop of top lefty pitchers, and Skubal is inarguably the best of the best.

I know you did.
That's why I said there are a few.

[ClassicO]

Sandy Koufax
Position: Pitcher

Bats: Right • Throws: Left

6'-2"

The ABS system has already helped us realize that everyone lied about their height. Pitchers will continue to do so.

Is Sandy 6'2" (pictured next to Don Sutton, listed at 6'1")?

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[Futuregm2]

It’s a good point

Mikolas 6’4”
Fedde 6’4”
Gray 5’10”

[Futuregm2]

I note that all of the top LH pitchers
are at least 6'4" in height.

Shota Imanaga - 5’10”
Nestor Cortes - 5’10”
Framber Valdez - 5’11”
Andrew Abbott - 6’0”
Jesus Luzardo - 6’0”
Ranger Suarez - 6’1”
Mackenzie Gore - 6’2”
Robbie Ray - 6’2”
Carlos Rodon - 6’2”
Tarik Skubal - 6’3”

Kris Bubic is 6’3”
Andrew Heaney is 6’2” we made him look like Cy Young out there

[Strummer Jones]

A little on the shorter side, but not so much that I'm concerned about it.

[Dicktar2023]

My only concern is how quickly he can learn to cut 10mph off his fastball and pitch to contact. If he can do that, he could be in AAA as early as 2030.

I'm also curious about whether he could learn to play OF. Or catcher?

[Quincy Varnish]

Sandy Koufax
Position: Pitcher

Bats: Right • Throws: Left

6'-2"

The ABS system has already helped us realize that everyone lied about their height. Pitchers will continue to do so.

Is Sandy 6'2" (pictured next to Don Sutton, listed at 6'1")?

Screenshot 2025-07-17 at 9.46.53 AM.png

I’m not sure that’s changed. I’ve bumped into more than a few players that clearly do not match their listed height.

[ClassicO]

Sandy Koufax
Position: Pitcher

Bats: Right • Throws: Left

6'-2"

The ABS system has already helped us realize that everyone lied about their height. Pitchers will continue to do so.

Is Sandy 6'2" (pictured next to Don Sutton, listed at 6'1")?

Screenshot 2025-07-17 at 9.46.53 AM.png

I’m not sure that’s changed. I’ve bumped into more than a few players that clearly do not match their listed height.

+1. I've gone to Spring Training 24 times. I noticed as you do that heights are often off the mark. You stand near or along the fence and they are in the dugout and, I'm 6'0", and there are many players shorter.