The Kyrou Rumors Just Won't Die

[TBone]

To be fair, you did have posts about Kyrou and his tongue sticking out

He sticks his tongue out a lot. Yeah I did … at a time when people were hating on him. It made people cry.

Now that he’s being talked about being shopped, people are all over the tongue and lovin it…thinking it’s gonna bring back a ransom

Ah, another Glow Stick moment.

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.

[theograce]

Bone gets back from his lengthy timeout because of me …

Only to follow me daily with memes

Dude sounds really stable

Laughing

[callitwhatyouwant]

Do people think Kyrou's contract is bad value? He would get 9 in free agency. His age related decline will be outpaced by the rising cap. I bet his contract looks even better than it does now in two years.

I also am surprised no one believes Holloway's performance is not partially due to his chemistry with Kyrou. They, together, elevated Schenn to a serviceable number two center.

Because that doesn’t fit the agenda.

It's hilarious that people who act like they understand the game, especially on the business side, actually think his contract is bad. The few hockey illiterates here change their position on such things nearly everyday to ensure it fits whatever delusional narrative they are spinning at that time. It's quite comical.

For those that don't manipulate the past to try and fit their agendas, Kyrous contract is an interesting case study. The reality is that when Kyrou got his contract, it was probably a bit too early. He hadn't really "earned" that and it caused strife in the locker room immediately. Others thought they should be getting paid and it turned into a distraction. He scuffled with consistency further questioning the contract. And for the past 2 seasons his play has risen. Currently his contract is at market value. And his contract with the growing cap projects to be a team friendly contract assuming same level of play. Those are all realities and facts. Anyone disputing that has an agenda.

The reason Kyrou's name pops up in trade talks is because he's an expendable asset. But it's also because other teams see that contract and would like to lock it down because they see it as being cost prohibitive as opposed to signing lesser players in free agency to similar deals. Kyrou has a high value contract and his name was floated out there a couple years ago. Army has always been open for business but you have to pay a high price for players he values. He has REPEATEDLY said that he doesn't understand why Kyrou became the lightning rod but that happens, similar to Parayko. Parayko is a great case study for Kyrou because he has one of the most valuable defensive contracts in the NHL. Every single team in the league would bend over backwards to have Parayko's contract on the books for the next 5 years.

Army gets an A++++ for Parayko's contract and Thomas contract. Right now he gets a B+ for Kyrou's and we will see how it plays out. My guess is that it is an A+ contract as well. And this is coming from someone who dogged Kyrou's play for a couple seasons.

In the new NHL with the salary cap, if you are a GM you'd much rather gamble a poor contract on a 23-25 year old than a 30 year old.

With the 23 year old you have a really good chance, even if he's overpaid, that they will improve, and at least a solid chance of getting a good return on the investment. As for the 30 year old, when they fall of the cliff that's it, it's over, there's very little chance for that contract to improve.

Florida with the re-signing of Bennett, Marchand, and Ekblad will be dealing with this exact scenario in the very near future.

Probably right, but it depends on what the argument is. Are you going to get 30 year olds 5 years or 23 year olds 8 years? I think house money is on the 30 year old fulfilling 4-5 of those years of that contract at the level paid over the 23 year old getting 7 or 8 of those years. You might get 5 maybe 6 of those years at what you paid but you aint getting the whole thing. So you are betting that the beginning is beaten out by the win you get at the end.

Army for all his faults with Krugs contract has masterfully woven together a great salary situation. All of the young guys are coming up to take the spots of the rental vets, and theres going to be a 2-3 year window where you have cheap contracts, mixed with Vet contracts expiring year to year, mixed with 5-7 core long term contracts. Parayko, Thomas, Kyrou, Buchy, and I would assume Holloway, Broberg, Neighbours, Snuggy make up your core long terms. That's a great place to be in. Now for it to work it requires at least 3-4 of Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Dean, Jiricek, and Carbonneau to hit. Anything above that is gold. Especially if any of those other guys like Dean, Peterson, Stancl etc work out.

[TheJackBurton]

Do people think Kyrou's contract is bad value? He would get 9 in free agency. His age related decline will be outpaced by the rising cap. I bet his contract looks even better than it does now in two years.

I also am surprised no one believes Holloway's performance is not partially due to his chemistry with Kyrou. They, together, elevated Schenn to a serviceable number two center.

Because that doesn’t fit the agenda.

It's hilarious that people who act like they understand the game, especially on the business side, actually think his contract is bad. The few hockey illiterates here change their position on such things nearly everyday to ensure it fits whatever delusional narrative they are spinning at that time. It's quite comical.

For those that don't manipulate the past to try and fit their agendas, Kyrous contract is an interesting case study. The reality is that when Kyrou got his contract, it was probably a bit too early. He hadn't really "earned" that and it caused strife in the locker room immediately. Others thought they should be getting paid and it turned into a distraction. He scuffled with consistency further questioning the contract. And for the past 2 seasons his play has risen. Currently his contract is at market value. And his contract with the growing cap projects to be a team friendly contract assuming same level of play. Those are all realities and facts. Anyone disputing that has an agenda.

The reason Kyrou's name pops up in trade talks is because he's an expendable asset. But it's also because other teams see that contract and would like to lock it down because they see it as being cost prohibitive as opposed to signing lesser players in free agency to similar deals. Kyrou has a high value contract and his name was floated out there a couple years ago. Army has always been open for business but you have to pay a high price for players he values. He has REPEATEDLY said that he doesn't understand why Kyrou became the lightning rod but that happens, similar to Parayko. Parayko is a great case study for Kyrou because he has one of the most valuable defensive contracts in the NHL. Every single team in the league would bend over backwards to have Parayko's contract on the books for the next 5 years.

Army gets an A++++ for Parayko's contract and Thomas contract. Right now he gets a B+ for Kyrou's and we will see how it plays out. My guess is that it is an A+ contract as well. And this is coming from someone who dogged Kyrou's play for a couple seasons.

In the new NHL with the salary cap, if you are a GM you'd much rather gamble a poor contract on a 23-25 year old than a 30 year old.

With the 23 year old you have a really good chance, even if he's overpaid, that they will improve, and at least a solid chance of getting a good return on the investment. As for the 30 year old, when they fall of the cliff that's it, it's over, there's very little chance for that contract to improve.

Florida with the re-signing of Bennett, Marchand, and Ekblad will be dealing with this exact scenario in the very near future.

Probably right, but it depends on what the argument is. Are you going to get 30 year olds 5 years or 23 year olds 8 years? I think house money is on the 30 year old fulfilling 4-5 of those years of that contract at the level paid over the 23 year old getting 7 or 8 of those years. You might get 5 maybe 6 of those years at what you paid but you aint getting the whole thing. So you are betting that the beginning is beaten out by the win you get at the end.

Army for all his faults with Krugs contract has masterfully woven together a great salary situation. All of the young guys are coming up to take the spots of the rental vets, and theres going to be a 2-3 year window where you have cheap contracts, mixed with Vet contracts expiring year to year, mixed with 5-7 core long term contracts. Parayko, Thomas, Kyrou, Buchy, and I would assume Holloway, Broberg, Neighbours, Snuggy make up your core long terms. That's a great place to be in. Now for it to work it requires at least 3-4 of Dvorsky, Lindstein, Stenberg, Dean, Jiricek, and Carbonneau to hit. Anything above that is gold. Especially if any of those other guys like Dean, Peterson, Stancl etc work out.

Right, I get all that. I was referring to people complaining about him being paid too early. If a GM has a choice to pay a young guy for 8 years or a vet for 5-6 he's more often than not, with a salary cap, going to choose the young guy.

The first few years he will be tradeable since they would be buying out RFA years, greater chance for improvement, therefore greater chance of outplaying the contract.

With a vet the odds of that contract not becoming negative aren't good in today's NHL.

[Nublues69]

Bone gets back from his lengthy timeout because of me …

Only to follow me daily with memes

Dude sounds really stable

Laughing

Butt bleedr. How is the temp in your mothers basement these days. I know its hot upstairs while i am over. You still suckling on her teet.

[wiscrev]

To be fair, you did have posts about Kyrou and his tongue sticking out

He sticks his tongue out a lot. Yeah I did … at a time when people were hating on him. It made people cry.

Now that he’s being talked about being shopped, people are all over the tongue and lovin it…thinking it’s gonna bring back a ransom

Ah, another Glow Stick moment.

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.