Extension for Oil now?

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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
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BTW, does anybody else think Oli looks like Kash Patel ?
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for the laugh of the day!

But no

I don't want "oil" to extend upward, we need to keep it under $70 to help keep inflation down. :mrgreen:
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JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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Geo Barnett wrote: 14 Jul 2025 15:07 pm He's got em playing great.
14-14 in June and 4-7 so far in July (to be fair, 15-12 over the last month). You are either smoking something or forgot the blue font.

Oli, to his credit, is doing a better job this year. But it's far from good enough, and he will never improve his paint-by-numbers bullpen management philosophy. It seems he likes to cycle through all the effective relievers until he can find the one having a bad day. I don't see them firing Oli duing the season, I just hope they let him go in the offseason.
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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:28 am
Geo Barnett wrote: 14 Jul 2025 15:07 pm He's got em playing great.
14-14 in June and 4-7 so far in July (to be fair, 15-12 over the last month). You are either smoking something or forgot the blue font.

Oli, to his credit, is doing a better job this year. But it's far from good enough, and he will never improve his paint-by-numbers bullpen management philosophy. It seems he likes to cycle through all the effective relievers until he can find the one having a bad day. I don't see them firing Oli duing the season, I just hope they let him go in the offseason.
I’d like to frame the following quote, make 3 copies, and hang one copy in the Cards dugout and another in Oli’s office and another in Mozo the Clown’s office:

“The greater the number of relievers you use in a game, the higher the probability you’ll find the one who has a bad day and loses the game for you.” — HW72
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:32 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:28 am
Geo Barnett wrote: 14 Jul 2025 15:07 pm He's got em playing great.
14-14 in June and 4-7 so far in July (to be fair, 15-12 over the last month). You are either smoking something or forgot the blue font.

Oli, to his credit, is doing a better job this year. But it's far from good enough, and he will never improve his paint-by-numbers bullpen management philosophy. It seems he likes to cycle through all the effective relievers until he can find the one having a bad day. I don't see them firing Oli duing the season, I just hope they let him go in the offseason.
I’d like to frame the following quote, make 3 copies, and hang one copy in the Cards dugout and another in Oli’s office and another in Mozo the Clown’s office:

“The greater the number of relievers you use in a game, the higher the probability you’ll find the one who has a bad day and loses the game for you.” — HW72
100%

And it's worse these days with the 3-batter minimum rule.
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Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
+1
Ask yourself? If you were Bloom would you:
Join the organization for 2024 to learn the ropes?
Accept the POBO position starting at the conclusion of the 2025 season?
Sit there in 2025 and say nothing while MO does whatever he wants?

I see MO currently as a figurehead.
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
I think John Mozeliak controls more than you think. Like I said earlier, it's ridiculous to have him in charge of the trade deadline. He should have zero to do with it. If he and Bloom disagree on a trade & DeWitt sides with Mo, it screws things up. Let Bloom run this.

As for there being little change moving forward, I hope you are wrong. But unfortunately, you are probably right.
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bccardsfan wrote: 14 Jul 2025 17:00 pm MO's parting gift to Cardinal Nation:) (searching for middle finger emoji)
Just go with this ,,!,, instead. :wink:
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Extend his contract?
I would prefer they shorten his plank
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Jul 2025 11:38 am
Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
I think John Mozeliak controls more than you think. Like I said earlier, it's ridiculous to have him in charge of the trade deadline. He should have zero to do with it. If he and Bloom disagree on a trade & DeWitt sides with Mo, it screws things up. Let Bloom run this.

As for there being little change moving forward, I hope you are wrong. But unfortunately, you are probably right.
He will not be “in charge” of the trade deadline. While he may handle the negotiations and paperwork, the parameters will be set by Bloom and DeWitt, with input from Mo. Mo no longer has the authority to unilaterally make moves, especially ones that impact beyond 2025. Bloom’s not so desperate for a job that he’d sit back while a deal was made that would impact or derail the plans he’s worked for a year to put in place. And, DeWitt’s certainly not going to pay a guy for 2 years only to allow him to be undercut and most likely walk away.
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 17:27 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Jul 2025 11:38 am
Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
I think John Mozeliak controls more than you think. Like I said earlier, it's ridiculous to have him in charge of the trade deadline. He should have zero to do with it. If he and Bloom disagree on a trade & DeWitt sides with Mo, it screws things up. Let Bloom run this.

As for there being little change moving forward, I hope you are wrong. But unfortunately, you are probably right.
He will not be “in charge” of the trade deadline. While he may handle the negotiations and paperwork, the parameters will be set by Bloom and DeWitt, with input from Mo. Mo no longer has the authority to unilaterally make moves, especially ones that impact beyond 2025. Bloom’s not so desperate for a job that he’d sit back while a deal was made that would impact or derail the plans he’s worked for a year to put in place. And, DeWitt’s certainly not going to pay a guy for 2 years only to allow him to be undercut and most likely walk away.
You have more trust and faith in the situation than I do.
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Re: Extension for Oil now?

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JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Jul 2025 18:03 pm
Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 17:27 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Jul 2025 11:38 am
Red7 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 10:06 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:16 pm At this point, it would not surprise me. We have an outgoing pobo running the trade deadline to set a roster he won't have anything to do with past September. So he probably has the sole authority to extend Lil oli.
Mo has his title, salary, and runs the day-to-day operations of the team’s administration. However, he has no authority. That has been transferred to Bloom (at least his share. DeWitt is still, and always has been, the final authority). Oli’s fate is in the hands of Bloom and DeWitt. If Oli IS extended, it will be because Bloom wants someone he can work
with and knows the organization. If you’re expecting a big change in how the team is run, I fear you’ll be terribly disappointed.
I think John Mozeliak controls more than you think. Like I said earlier, it's ridiculous to have him in charge of the trade deadline. He should have zero to do with it. If he and Bloom disagree on a trade & DeWitt sides with Mo, it screws things up. Let Bloom run this.

As for there being little change moving forward, I hope you are wrong. But unfortunately, you are probably right.
He will not be “in charge” of the trade deadline. While he may handle the negotiations and paperwork, the parameters will be set by Bloom and DeWitt, with input from Mo. Mo no longer has the authority to unilaterally make moves, especially ones that impact beyond 2025. Bloom’s not so desperate for a job that he’d sit back while a deal was made that would impact or derail the plans he’s worked for a year to put in place. And, DeWitt’s certainly not going to pay a guy for 2 years only to allow him to be undercut and most likely walk away.
You have more trust and faith in the situation than I do.
this ^^
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Melville wrote: 15 Jul 2025 16:06 pm Extend his contract?
I would prefer they shorten his plank
Mel, you win the internet today!!! Great quip.
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 19:50 pm
Melville wrote: 15 Jul 2025 16:06 pm Extend his contract?
I would prefer they shorten his plank
Mel, you win the internet today!!! Great quip.
Too kind, sir!
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