I feel for Oli

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I feel for Oli

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How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
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musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
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hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did
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Re: I feel for Oli

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Unless Bloom agreed before accepting his 5 yr deal that Oli would be kept for his final year of 2026, Oli gets his pay if Bloom releases him .
So he will still be OK.

Guess we have to wait several months to see what Bloom has in store for Oli .
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Re: I feel for Oli

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Why feel sorry for him. He has gotten to spend several years managing a big league team. All he had to do is follow the instructions of his benefactor. Unqualified little weasel, but got plucked from a dung pile by Johnny MO. He owes him big time.
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Re: I feel for Oli

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did
How was Oli supposed to change that? MO makes the roster moves, so McGreevy was not an option. He is stuck with the 5 he has. He rearranged the rotation to get an extra start in for Gray. That makes the most sense. We can blame MO and the DeWitt's for not eating one of the Mikolas or Fedde contracts and promoting McGreevy. That is not on Oli.
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Re: I feel for Oli

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He's 39 and his baseball career might be over soon. That's a little sad for the guy.
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You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
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Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
Oli will be replaced but probably with an Oli 2.0. As you described managers with a true feel for the game are vanishing.
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Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.
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musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
Better question.
How are the players supposed to win when Super Slo Mo gives them The Marmot to work with?
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Poach from the Brewers staff by offering them promotions. Coaches and scouts.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.
This pud has this team 5 games over .500. Think about that. THIS team.
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Melville wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
Better question.
How are the players supposed to win when Super Slo Mo gives them The Marmot to work with?
good one Mel
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Re: I feel for Oli

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Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 19:01 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 10 Jul 2025 18:42 pm
Red7 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:44 pm You guys are hilarious. You think Oli Marmol has a job because of some perceived insecurity on Mo’s part. The reality is Marmol is pretty much the industry standard. Today’s MLB manager is expected to implement the collaborative decisions made by a group including the GM, the analytics department, the medical team, and the coaching staff and then face the media on a daily basis without complaint. Don’t expect any different from Bloom. The days of Whitey and TLR are long gone. Stop dreaming of Yadi or Albert managing the team. It’s not going to happen.
You are partially correct. Most managers today do follow the collaborative plan. But they also insert more sway than this pud does. And they lead the clubhouse. This pud cant.
This pud has this team 5 games over .500. Think about that. THIS team.
But you (correctly) stated that he just follows the collective plan. So does he really have them anywhere?
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ICCFIM2 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 17:16 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:40 pm
hotrivets wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:32 pm
musicman wrote: 10 Jul 2025 16:30 pm How is he suppose to win when Mo gives him nothing to work with.He needs to pull a Schildt and go voice his complaints.
If that gets him fired, okay.
It would get him fired so that’s a plus. I don’t feel sorry for oli he’s the one who kept the rotation as is and made sure the cards best starting didn’t pitch in either series while the worst starting pitchers did
How was Oli supposed to change that? MO makes the roster moves, so McGreevy was not an option. He is stuck with the 5 he has. He rearranged the rotation to get an extra start in for Gray. That makes the most sense. We can blame MO and the DeWitt's for not eating one of the Mikolas or Fedde contracts and promoting McGreevy. That is not on Oli.
Any manager worth their weight would have some pull and not put up with this. Tony La Russa would be jn Mo's office everyday until something was done. Oli? No shot!...unless he's delivering the morning coffee.
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