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Cranny
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Re: It's time to admit

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desertrat23 wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:05 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 09:23 am
rockondlouie wrote: 08 Jul 2025 08:28 am
Cranny wrote: 07 Jul 2025 15:38 pm icon, rock, goldfan, oldred, etc. -

Yes, it's horse manure reading your continuous negative dribble. It never changes. It just dribbles over and over and over again - day after day. No substance.
I'll put my post up against yours any day of the week for "substance".

You know very little about baseball and are ONLY here to defend BDWjr and Mo.

You're a toady front office footstool they rest their feet on. :oops:
I believe I know a little about baseball, rock, and maybe as much as you (after playing high school, college, and semi-pro ball). And I’m sure I know more about the Cardinals system because I have a passion for following our minor leaguers, every year for the past 20+ years.
Agree or disagree with your perspectives, no one here doubts your passion for the team.
Think you meant that last word to be “owner.”
Do you mean the owner who’s brought some of the best Cardinal baseball to St. Louis of any Cardinal owner? Fact, sir.
desertrat23
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Re: It's time to admit

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Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:15 pm
desertrat23 wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:05 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 09:23 am
rockondlouie wrote: 08 Jul 2025 08:28 am
Cranny wrote: 07 Jul 2025 15:38 pm icon, rock, goldfan, oldred, etc. -

Yes, it's horse manure reading your continuous negative dribble. It never changes. It just dribbles over and over and over again - day after day. No substance.
I'll put my post up against yours any day of the week for "substance".

You know very little about baseball and are ONLY here to defend BDWjr and Mo.

You're a toady front office footstool they rest their feet on. :oops:
I believe I know a little about baseball, rock, and maybe as much as you (after playing high school, college, and semi-pro ball). And I’m sure I know more about the Cardinals system because I have a passion for following our minor leaguers, every year for the past 20+ years.
Agree or disagree with your perspectives, no one here doubts your passion for the team.
Think you meant that last word to be “owner.”
Do you mean the owner who’s brought some of the best Cardinal baseball to St. Louis of any Cardinal owner? Fact, sir.
No one doubts your passion for the owner. All right, man. Whatever.
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Re: It's time to admit

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Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:31 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:23 pm The thing that makes no sense to me is allowing MO to be a lame duck POBO. Bloom should have been calling the shots this year.
60 -

The organization under a MLB POBO is a massive organization that has reaches to all minor league cities as well as an off shore team. Plus all the responsibilities at the major league level, including scouting other teams. It’s a job you don’t just walk into and take over. It takes an in depth transition period to pass the torch to a new boss.
Cranny amazingly all over the league POBO are fired and replacements step in……without a 2 yr apprenticeship
Amazing that you don’t get stuff, Goldfan. Gary
Laroque also retired and the whole minor league development system had to be revamped. That was Bloom’s first order of business. You can actually reason this stuff out for yourself.
Did he “retire”?? :lol: :lol:
And how is Girsch doing on those “special projects”? :lol: :lol:
Actually almost all of MO’s incompetent staff were let go or reassigned and I’m sure Bloom has been moving his people in since he arrived.
But I do agree that the minor league system had deteriorated and was such a cluster that Bloom probably had to put in some extra hours…….
You continually give an expansive job description of POBO and act like MO or Bloom had/have no reports beneath them who actually are the hands on managment. Cranny this “Mission Impossible” storyline you type about almost every subject concerning this team would make Tom Cruise proud. You should write a script for him. Never in the history MLB or Cardinals have they fired an in competent employees and then the replacement was required to Clean up the mess. You know Whitey came in 1980 and had a 1st place club the strike year of ‘81 wearing all the hats and making all the decisions.
The key is to have someone WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING who ACTIVELY goes out and gets the talent
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Re: It's time to admit

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Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:31 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:23 pm The thing that makes no sense to me is allowing MO to be a lame duck POBO. Bloom should have been calling the shots this year.
60 -

The organization under a MLB POBO is a massive organization that has reaches to all minor league cities as well as an off shore team. Plus all the responsibilities at the major league level, including scouting other teams. It’s a job you don’t just walk into and take over. It takes an in depth transition period to pass the torch to a new boss.
Cranny amazingly all over the league POBO are fired and replacements step in……without a 2 yr apprenticeship
Amazing that you don’t get stuff, Goldfan. Gary
Laroque also retired and the whole minor league development system had to be revamped. That was Bloom’s first order of business. You can actually reason this stuff out for yourself.
Did he “retire”?? :lol: :lol:
And how is Girsch doing on those “special projects”? :lol: :lol:
Actually almost all of MO’s incompetent staff were let go or reassigned and I’m sure Bloom has been moving his people in since he arrived.
But I do agree that the minor league system had deteriorated and was such a cluster that Bloom probably had to put in some extra hours…….
You continually give an expansive job description of POBO and act like MO or Bloom had/have no reports beneath them who actually are the hands on managment. Cranny this “Mission Impossible” storyline you type about almost every subject concerning this team would make Tom Cruise proud. You should write a script for him. Never in the history MLB or Cardinals have they fired an in competent employees and then the replacement was required to Clean up the mess. You know Whitey came in 1980 and had a 1st place club the strike year of ‘81 wearing all the hats and making all the decisions.
The key is to have someone WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING who ACTIVELY goes out and gets the talent
The minor league system had to be revamped because Mo let it deteriorate. They had 1/3 of the instructors other teams had in their systems. They had no pitching lab like other teams. And the facilities in Jupiter needed renovated.

What the heck has Mo been doing the past decade? His rosters routinely have holes. He makes few trades. And typically only signs the easiest targets. So again, what does he do? Play with himself all winter?
Goldfan
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Re: It's time to admit

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JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:31 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:23 pm The thing that makes no sense to me is allowing MO to be a lame duck POBO. Bloom should have been calling the shots this year.
60 -

The organization under a MLB POBO is a massive organization that has reaches to all minor league cities as well as an off shore team. Plus all the responsibilities at the major league level, including scouting other teams. It’s a job you don’t just walk into and take over. It takes an in depth transition period to pass the torch to a new boss.
Cranny amazingly all over the league POBO are fired and replacements step in……without a 2 yr apprenticeship
Amazing that you don’t get stuff, Goldfan. Gary
Laroque also retired and the whole minor league development system had to be revamped. That was Bloom’s first order of business. You can actually reason this stuff out for yourself.
Did he “retire”?? :lol: :lol:
And how is Girsch doing on those “special projects”? :lol: :lol:
Actually almost all of MO’s incompetent staff were let go or reassigned and I’m sure Bloom has been moving his people in since he arrived.
But I do agree that the minor league system had deteriorated and was such a cluster that Bloom probably had to put in some extra hours…….
You continually give an expansive job description of POBO and act like MO or Bloom had/have no reports beneath them who actually are the hands on managment. Cranny this “Mission Impossible” storyline you type about almost every subject concerning this team would make Tom Cruise proud. You should write a script for him. Never in the history MLB or Cardinals have they fired an in competent employees and then the replacement was required to Clean up the mess. You know Whitey came in 1980 and had a 1st place club the strike year of ‘81 wearing all the hats and making all the decisions.
The key is to have someone WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING who ACTIVELY goes out and gets the talent
The minor league system had to be revamped because Mo let it deteriorate. They had 1/3 of the instructors other teams had in their systems. They had no pitching lab like other teams. And the facilities in Jupiter needed renovated.

What the heck has Mo been doing the past decade? His rosters routinely have holes. He makes few trades. And typically only signs the easiest targets. So again, what does he do? Play with himself all winter?
In summary
Bloom has been consumed attempting to clean up this dysfunctional mess created by BDW/MO that he couldn’t possibly have any time yet to look at the ML club
BUT don’t blame BDW/MO for any of the mess that Bloom has been spending all his time cleaning up. Cranny Logic :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: It's time to admit

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Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 22:12 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Jul 2025 22:04 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 21:52 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:54 pm
Goldfan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 19:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:31 pm
60 year Cardinal fan wrote: 08 Jul 2025 18:23 pm The thing that makes no sense to me is allowing MO to be a lame duck POBO. Bloom should have been calling the shots this year.
60 -

The organization under a MLB POBO is a massive organization that has reaches to all minor league cities as well as an off shore team. Plus all the responsibilities at the major league level, including scouting other teams. It’s a job you don’t just walk into and take over. It takes an in depth transition period to pass the torch to a new boss.
Cranny amazingly all over the league POBO are fired and replacements step in……without a 2 yr apprenticeship
Amazing that you don’t get stuff, Goldfan. Gary
Laroque also retired and the whole minor league development system had to be revamped. That was Bloom’s first order of business. You can actually reason this stuff out for yourself.
Did he “retire”?? :lol: :lol:
And how is Girsch doing on those “special projects”? :lol: :lol:
Actually almost all of MO’s incompetent staff were let go or reassigned and I’m sure Bloom has been moving his people in since he arrived.
But I do agree that the minor league system had deteriorated and was such a cluster that Bloom probably had to put in some extra hours…….
You continually give an expansive job description of POBO and act like MO or Bloom had/have no reports beneath them who actually are the hands on managment. Cranny this “Mission Impossible” storyline you type about almost every subject concerning this team would make Tom Cruise proud. You should write a script for him. Never in the history MLB or Cardinals have they fired an in competent employees and then the replacement was required to Clean up the mess. You know Whitey came in 1980 and had a 1st place club the strike year of ‘81 wearing all the hats and making all the decisions.
The key is to have someone WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING who ACTIVELY goes out and gets the talent
The minor league system had to be revamped because Mo let it deteriorate. They had 1/3 of the instructors other teams had in their systems. They had no pitching lab like other teams. And the facilities in Jupiter needed renovated.

What the heck has Mo been doing the past decade? His rosters routinely have holes. He makes few trades. And typically only signs the easiest targets. So again, what does he do? Play with himself all winter?
In summary
Bloom has been consumed attempting to clean up this dysfunctional mess created by BDW/MO that he couldn’t possibly have any time yet to look at the ML club
BUT don’t blame BDW/MO for any of the mess that Bloom has been spending all his time cleaning up. Cranny Logic :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hahahaha. I bet Bloom has seen enough of the big club to know what needs to be done. He's probably seen enough of Mo too.
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