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Re: Byram and the Blues still a hot rumor

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Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
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Re: Byram and the Blues still a hot rumor

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LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
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DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
8-8.5 for Fowler? No way. If he wants that much, bye!
I was thinking 4 per tops
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Let's clean a few things up here boys.

Kessel has zero trade value.
The Sabres let JBD go recently. If they wanted an 8th RHD they would have kept him.
Unless they do a 180, they want immediate help so no winger prospect either.

Typical Buffalo: Of all the years they decide they want immediate improvement, they choose the year that they should be tanking for a chance at McKenna. Maybe they change their mind after listening to the recent offers for Byram.

The Sabres LHD:
Dahlin at 11
Power at 8.35
Samuelsson at 4.28
Byram TBD

If Adams trades Byram for another LHD, he'll be lynched.

Ideally the Sabres would love to flush the turd named Mattias Samuelsson but are unlikely to find a sucker.
He has great size but is Charmin soft.

Since I don't feel the Blues are there yet as far as being Cup contenders, I do like the idea of trading for another younger d-man that is top 4 long term. I just don't want a guy with multiple concussion history. I know someone will bring up Perron, but I'll pass all day on Byram unless the ask is ridiculously low.

Adams better realize the return in the trade of Byram will not reconcile both of their needs (RHD & top 6 winger with bite).
He'll fill one need, but not both unless the deal is expanded.

The Rangers could use Byram and have a spare RHD to trade in either Schneider or Morrow.
Cuylle would be a perfect for the Sabres but is probably near untouchable.

New York's main problem is the Zibanejad contract.
If they can find a team that Zibanejad would accept a trade to and that wants him, they would probably have to add a major sweetener like Perreault to the deal just to get Zibanejad off the books with no retention.

The Rangers really don't have a forward that is making decent coin (besides Cuylle) that they can trade as a salary dump to offset the raise Byram will receive. So even if the Rangers would trade Schneider and Perreault for Byram they still would have to unload a contract to get cap compliant.

Dougie Hamilton would fill 2 of the Sabres major needs:
RHD that can run a power play.
The Sabres have had a terrible PP for the past 2 years. That is Hamilton's forte.

The problem is that the Devils don't need a d-man.
The other issue is that NJ also desperately needs top 6 wingers. Two of them in fact.
Before the Peterka trade I had speculated that Hamilton for Tuch made sense for both teams.

Supposedly the Flames have major interest in Byram.
They are loaded at RHD, but Andersson and Weegar won't waive for Buffalo and the Flames are not going to trade Parekh.
Andersson would be perfect with his countryman Dahlin. Too bad it won't happen.
Kadri & Coleman also control their own fate up front.

It might take a 3 way trade for Byram to find a new home if the Sabres insist on immediate help.
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netboy65 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
8-8.5 for Fowler? No way. If he wants that much, bye!
I was thinking 4 per tops
If you look at what Fowler did in St. Louis he's right up there with Bouchard in the top-5 defensemen in the league. I assume he wants to cash in. Yeah, pay less, but what would he likely want to sign vs UFA?
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DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:31 pm
netboy65 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
8-8.5 for Fowler? No way. If he wants that much, bye!
I was thinking 4 per tops
If you look at what Fowler did in St. Louis he's right up there with Bouchard in the top-5 defensemen in the league. I assume he wants to cash in. Yeah, pay less, but what would he likely want to sign vs UFA?
I know you're an hour ahead of us Dawg, but are you already hitting the sauce?
Am I not seeing the blue font?

The Blues can't make the same mistake with Fowler that they did with Leddy.
Offer him 2 years only. If he wants to test the market at a chance at longer term, trade him.
He won't be around or at least in our top 4 when we are ready to compete for a Cup.
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DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:31 pm
netboy65 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
8-8.5 for Fowler? No way. If he wants that much, bye!
I was thinking 4 per tops
If you look at what Fowler did in St. Louis he's right up there with Bouchard in the top-5 defensemen in the league. I assume he wants to cash in. Yeah, pay less, but what would he likely want to sign vs UFA?
He played very well, but that’s no guarantee that it will continue, especially since he’s on the wrong side of 30
Scandella played well after we traded for him and that extension didn’t work out so well.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope we keep him, just not for those high dollars
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DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
Linstein a "miss", I sure hope you are being sarcastic here. If not, you clearly have not followed him since we drafted him.
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cooksie72 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:48 pm
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
Linstein a "miss", I sure hope you are being sarcastic here. If not, you clearly have not followed him since we drafted him.
I think he’s being sarcastic and quoting bleeds
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BluesBirdsBuds wrote: 04 Jul 2025 13:30 pm IMG_2242.jpeg

https://x.com/jfreshhockey/status/19411 ... 30824?s=46

Yikes
I looked up the past three seasons as well including his time on the Avs and those numbers aren’t pretty either
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Re: Byram and the Blues still a hot rumor

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 13:17 pm
cooksie72 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:48 pm
DawgDad wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:12 pm
LGB73 wrote: 04 Jul 2025 12:03 pm Trading Neighbours would be stupid. Our 3rd line wouldn't be much better than our 4th at that point.

Im guessing the package would be Lindstein, 2026 1st not protected and....

Really no need to keep Linstein when youll have 2 top 4 LDs under 25..
Not trading Lindstein
Broberg
Byram
Lindstein
That could be the future..
Come on, Pierre. We KNOW (by proclamation) it is highly doubtful Broberg can ever be a #1, Byram might be a viable #2 if he stays healthy, and Lindstein was a miss.

If Fowler would take 4 year term wouldn't the Blues be better off keeping him and the assets that wouldn't be traded? Would he take $8-$8.5 per, or was all that talk about liking St. Louis just talk?
Linstein a "miss", I sure hope you are being sarcastic here. If not, you clearly have not followed him since we drafted him.
I think he’s being sarcastic and quoting bleeds
Yes, but multiple sources.
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I'm not in on Byram, I just don't see a need or fit. A bridge too far.

I am wondering what is going down with Fowler. He was crazy good with the Blues, the point shares project to 10.9 over 82 games. He could regress 25% and still be a viable #1, 50% and still be serviceable. No Marchand contract, though, please. Would Army just let him walk?
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 04 Jul 2025 13:39 pm Image
$9m a year with term for a concussion magnet? No thank you.
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