Initial Habs deal was huge according to this

[TheJackBurton]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

[skilles]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

[theograce]

People look solely at goals and assists and try to make evaluations/projections on value.

Sam Bennett would be a 3rd line player here said this board only 3 or so years ago.

Really lazy evaluations here

[TheJackBurton]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games? With a completely different set of circumstances?

[skilles]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

[TheJackBurton]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

Then how is that a pretty solid case?

[skilles]

That account is garbage.

That said, the Blues were absolutely trying to move Kyrou AND when Mailloux hits his prime in 2-3 years, Bolduc will be the better player than Kyrou.

It was a desperation move by Armstrong and I firmly believe it was a below average trade compared to what could/should have been done.

ok what are you basing that on?

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

Then how is that a pretty solid case?

I have no idea how to convince someone that is to hard headed to believe that was a solid case that its a solid case,

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Bolduc had a very good full rookie season. I was really excited about his future here. It stings that we won't get to witness that. The Blues had a glaring hole on their entire organizational roster though. Something have to give. Bolduc is probably going to be a very good player. I hope Holloway follows up on a great season, Neighbours ascends, and Snuggerud exceeds expectations playing with Thomas. Those 3 trending would go a long way toward easing the pain if Bolduc becomes the player that he flashed last season.
Of course we really need Mailloux to pan out, but the young forwards could ease the pain too if ZB thrives.
And I have high hopes for Stenberg whenever he arrives.

[TheJackBurton]

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

Then how is that a pretty solid case?

I have no idea how to convince someone that is to hard headed to believe that was a solid case that its a solid case,

Ok let's start here, their draft positions.

How does that make any difference whatsoever? How does that make for a solid case?

[skilles]

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

Then how is that a pretty solid case?

I have no idea how to convince someone that is to hard headed to believe that was a solid case that its a solid case,

Ok let's start here, their draft positions.

How does that make any difference whatsoever? How does that make for a solid case?

Well he said he believes Bolduc projects to be a better player than Kyrou and you ask what he is basing that on and he started with draft position which seems pretty relevant to player projection then went on to compare each year at the same age. Honestly I'm not sure what you are confused about.

You questioned his player projection and he gave you a very solid case and reasoning for his player projection.

[the miracle]

If true, I'm glad the Blues didn't go for that. Kyrou is clearly the best player in that deal and its not even close - that would definitely be a sign to me that the Blues are going full rebuild.

Bolduc for LM - at the moment it seems like Bolduc is the better player in the trade, but I think most sane folks would give this a "wait and see" approach.

[TheJackBurton]

Other than observation?

We can compare their draft slot:
J.Kyrou 35th overall (2nd round)
Z.Bolduc 17th overall (drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau

We can compare their age:
J.Kyrou - 27 years old
Z.Bolduc - 22 years old

We can compare their age 22 seasons (I'll even give you Kyrou's extrapolated to 72 games):
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 72 gp | 10 g | 23 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc- age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20

You may argue "what about their first full rookie seasons?". Sure:
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

So, yes, in my opinion, comparing rookie seasons, with Kyrou being 2 years older, playing with Thomas and Buchnevich vs. Sundqvist and Joseph, and playing on average 4 more minutes per night...I think Bolduc has both the draft capital and the type of rookie season that tells me in 2-3 more years, he will be the better player than a 30 year old Jordan Kyrou.

Kyrou was drafted when the Blues were one of the best 5 teams in the league for well over a decade and we had a beyond full lineup.

There was no room for him on the team, and when he did get his shots early he was played sparingly because the lineup 1-9 was full.

Hell if it weren't the fact he was 18 I sincerely doubt Thomas is on the squad at 18.

The NHL is absolutely littered with players who have come up and lit the world on fire only to have a disastrous sophomore campaign.

We can predict anything, and at least you did state it was your opinion, but not many guys produce 3 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, because it is an extremely hard thing to do.

Lastly your "extrapolation" is just you guessing. His age 23 season when he went 74-27-48-75.

I sincerely hope Bolduc puts up a line like that, but I doubt he will. More minutes equals more exposure, equals tougher matchups, equals tougher defensive assignment. Other than Suzuki Montreal is incredibly bad at center so it won't be an easy year for him.

If all Bolduc averages is 20-25-45 that's still a really solid year.

You could just admit that he made a pretty solid case.

By comparing 9 games and a guess to 72 games?

no

Then how is that a pretty solid case?

I have no idea how to convince someone that is to hard headed to believe that was a solid case that its a solid case,

Ok let's start here, their draft positions.

How does that make any difference whatsoever? How does that make for a solid case?

Well he said he believes Bolduc projects to be a better player than Kyrou and you ask what he is basing that on and he started with draft position which seems pretty relevant to player projection then went on to compare each year at the same age. Honestly I'm not sure what you are confused about.

You questioned his player projection and he gave you a very solid case and reasoning for his player projection.

No draft position isn't a determining factor of whether or not a player will be better than another. There are numerous circumstances that could include why a player is taken in a specific spot in a draft that has absolutely nothing to do with ability or future projections.

[theograce]

If true, I'm glad the Blues didn't go for that. Kyrou is clearly the best player in that deal and its not even close - that would definitely be a sign to me that the Blues are going full rebuild.

Bolduc for LM - at the moment it seems like Bolduc is the better player in the trade, but I think most sane folks would give this a "wait and see" approach.

It’s a gamble. Hoping the mail man delivers

[aslord]

If true, I'm glad the Blues didn't go for that. Kyrou is clearly the best player in that deal and its not even close - that would definitely be a sign to me that the Blues are going full rebuild.

Bolduc for LM - at the moment it seems like Bolduc is the better player in the trade, but I think most sane folks would give this a "wait and see" approach.

What other option is there? It's done. Nothing said here is going to change it.

[skilles]

If true, I'm glad the Blues didn't go for that. Kyrou is clearly the best player in that deal and its not even close - that would definitely be a sign to me that the Blues are going full rebuild.

Bolduc for LM - at the moment it seems like Bolduc is the better player in the trade, but I think most sane folks would give this a "wait and see" approach.

I guess I see it differently, you you make a trade the market value the players have right now is what matters.

Can we develop Mailloux into a better player than Bolduc....sure maybe but right now we have already developed Bolduc into the better player.

[the miracle]

If true, I'm glad the Blues didn't go for that. Kyrou is clearly the best player in that deal and its not even close - that would definitely be a sign to me that the Blues are going full rebuild.

Bolduc for LM - at the moment it seems like Bolduc is the better player in the trade, but I think most sane folks would give this a "wait and see" approach.

It’s a gamble. Hoping the mail man delivers

Likewise. Someone posted this in another thread and it was repeated locally on the radio - but the gist was Bolduc was likely going to get in the neighborhood of 4-5m on his next contract, which would be after this season. if true, I'd have to think there's some economics at play here as well. Even though Mailloux is also an RFA, he isn't getting that kind of money after this year.