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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
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theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
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theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:03 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
You deflect. I don’t hate it. Just don’t love it.

You infer I think Bolduc returns a Makar? What are you even on about?

This was about you saying you know about trust…acting like Bolduc is on a level playing field with long standing veterans with experience. And that you can tell he has warts because of ice time. This is normal development.

Again, it would be like me saying Mally obviously has much bigger warts because he couldn’t even crack their team. Is that fair?
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theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:03 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
You deflect. I don’t hate it. Just don’t love it. We agree, I don’t hate it or love it

You infer I think Bolduc returns a Makar? What are you even on about? Never inferred that, I was stating my point that you have to give something of value to get something. Bolduc was not fetching a current All Star.

This was about you saying you know about trust…acting like Bolduc is on a level playing field with long standing veterans with experience. And that you can tell he has warts because of ice time. This is normal development.
JR on numerous occasions has said that Bolduc has improved since his rookie year, but Monty saw major opportunities for him to improve his defensive game. I never said he wouldn’t improve, but people on here are assuming that Bolduc is a given superstar in the next year….I disagree.

Again, it would be like me saying Mally obviously has much bigger warts because he couldn’t even crack their team. Is that fair?

People on this board have differing opinions all the time. Some change their tune just to troll. I remember some clown posting Kyrou photos all the time and worshipping his tongue. I think the nutbag actually referred to him as the tongue. That same clown has changed his tune and rips him and his game.

When is Adin Hill starting for team Canada? Did I miss it?
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Bubbles deflects to Hill because he knows deep down he’s blowing smoke about warts and trust

Laughing
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theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:36 pm Bubbles deflects to Hill because he knows deep down he’s blowing smoke about warts and trust

Laughing
Learn to read.
Trying to find something that isn’t there just to win an argument is what losers do.
Just be a gracious loser and move on.
Adin Hill…. ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: you should have just owned up to that error and moved on.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 02 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
WilliamWestcliffe wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:36 pm
noted wrote: 02 Jul 2025 10:20 am https://x.com/NHL_Watcher/status/1940236927330124145

"Pierre McGuire on The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro says Evan Bouchard just signed for 4x10.5, asks do you think there is a huge separation point from Evan Bouchard 4 years ago to Logan Mailloux now? Says not even close, they are about the same player."

If he's right and the Blues got a younger Bouchard, they fleeced the Habs. Will come with some growing pains, but would be great.
I've said this in other threads. Mailloux is a nice get. I have zero problems with adding that horse to the stable. HOWEVER, Bolduc was the absolute wrong piece for a couple reasons:

1. It will be 2-3 years before Mailloux is hitting his prime - his Bouchard value. By that time, I believe Bolduc will be the far better player between himself and Kyrou.

2. Agreed that Kyrou for Mailloux is not a good trade either, but there were other options, including getting a slightly bigger package back from MTL for Kyrou OR dipping into your AHL talent waiting in the wings (e.g. Stenberg, etc.).
There is zero evidence so far that Bolduc will be better than Kyrou, Bolduc has done nothing in pro hockey (AHL, NHL) aside from a 2-3 month run at the end of last season under Monty, 7 PPGs, 12 EV. We see the talent level and the Blues are good at scouting and development so im pretty sure Bolduc is going to score. However, those around Mailloux in Montreal believe him to be NHL ready now and think he will be a very good player. All thinks equal the RHD 6'3" 215 lb kid has more value that a top 9 LW.
Fact is Snuggerud and Kyrou are the Blues top 6 RW, Buch, Holloway and Neighbours on the other side this made Bolduc expendable. I for one am glad it was Bolduc and not Stenberg. Stenbergs international and AHL production are better than Bolducs at this early stage
Zero? None? Not any at all?

Beyond just watching them, let's do a comparison of players...

First NHL Experience
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc - age 21 | 25 gp | 5 g | 9 pts | +0

First "Full" Season
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

Age 22 Seasons in NHL
Player A - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
Player B - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20


J.Kryou
  • Was drafted in the 2nd round, 35th overall
    Is 27 years old
    Plays a notoriously soft game
    Arguably has had a hand in a carousel of coaching changes
    His full rookie season numbers were supported by playing with R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc
  • Was drafted in the 1st round, 17th overall
    Is 22 years old
    Drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau
    Plays a 2-way, physical game
    His full rookie season numbers supported by playing with O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph
Maybe I'm completely misguided here, but my money is on Zack Bolduc being the better player in 2-3 years.
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Thomas averaged the same atoi in the regular season “because of his wrist”

Wait it was because of his age …

Berube didn’t trust him because of warts.

Just admit you don’t understand the sport well. And I hope your pal Bone is enjoying his time out. Naughty Naughty

Laughing
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WilliamWestcliffe wrote: 02 Jul 2025 17:14 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 02 Jul 2025 13:54 pm
WilliamWestcliffe wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:36 pm
noted wrote: 02 Jul 2025 10:20 am https://x.com/NHL_Watcher/status/1940236927330124145

"Pierre McGuire on The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro says Evan Bouchard just signed for 4x10.5, asks do you think there is a huge separation point from Evan Bouchard 4 years ago to Logan Mailloux now? Says not even close, they are about the same player."

If he's right and the Blues got a younger Bouchard, they fleeced the Habs. Will come with some growing pains, but would be great.
I've said this in other threads. Mailloux is a nice get. I have zero problems with adding that horse to the stable. HOWEVER, Bolduc was the absolute wrong piece for a couple reasons:

1. It will be 2-3 years before Mailloux is hitting his prime - his Bouchard value. By that time, I believe Bolduc will be the far better player between himself and Kyrou.

2. Agreed that Kyrou for Mailloux is not a good trade either, but there were other options, including getting a slightly bigger package back from MTL for Kyrou OR dipping into your AHL talent waiting in the wings (e.g. Stenberg, etc.).
There is zero evidence so far that Bolduc will be better than Kyrou, Bolduc has done nothing in pro hockey (AHL, NHL) aside from a 2-3 month run at the end of last season under Monty, 7 PPGs, 12 EV. We see the talent level and the Blues are good at scouting and development so im pretty sure Bolduc is going to score. However, those around Mailloux in Montreal believe him to be NHL ready now and think he will be a very good player. All thinks equal the RHD 6'3" 215 lb kid has more value that a top 9 LW.
Fact is Snuggerud and Kyrou are the Blues top 6 RW, Buch, Holloway and Neighbours on the other side this made Bolduc expendable. I for one am glad it was Bolduc and not Stenberg. Stenbergs international and AHL production are better than Bolducs at this early stage
Zero? None? Not any at all?

Beyond just watching them, let's do a comparison of players...

First NHL Experience
J.Kyrou - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
Z.Bolduc - age 21 | 25 gp | 5 g | 9 pts | +0

First "Full" Season
J.Kyrou - age 24 | 74 gp | 27 g | 75 pts | +10 *playing w/ R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20 *playing w/ O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph

Age 22 Seasons in NHL
Player A - age 22 | 28 gp | 4 g | 9 pts | +1
Player B - age 22 | 72 gp | 19 g | 36 pts | +20


J.Kryou
  • Was drafted in the 2nd round, 35th overall
    Is 27 years old
    Plays a notoriously soft game
    Arguably has had a hand in a carousel of coaching changes
    His full rookie season numbers were supported by playing with R.Thomas and P.Buchnevich
Z.Bolduc
  • Was drafted in the 1st round, 17th overall
    Is 22 years old
    Drafted higher than T.Thompson, J.Kyrou, R.Thomas, J.Neighbors, J.Snuggerud, O.Stenberg, T.Lindstein and J.Carbonneau
    Plays a 2-way, physical game
    His full rookie season numbers supported by playing with O.Sundqvist and M.Joseph
Maybe I'm completely misguided here, but my money is on Zack Bolduc being the better player in 2-3 years.
Bolduc has the higher ceiling imo in terms of impacting games.Time will tell
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theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 17:16 pm Thomas averaged the same atoi in the regular season “because of his wrist”

Wait it was because of his age …

Berube didn’t trust him because of warts.

Just admit you don’t understand the sport well. And I hope your pal Bone is enjoying his time out. Naughty Naughty

Laughing
Adin Hill…..
You worshipped Jordan “the tongue Kyrou”
This board misses TBone and his creative posts.
The only creativy you have proven is in making multiple IDs……
You live here seeking positive affirmation and then try knocking down anyone that points out your stupidity.
Keep trying…..
Adin Hill ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya:: ::crazya::
Toodles.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
Thanks for the laughs today
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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:03 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
Why do you respond to him? You realize he’s a troll?
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iowa blues fan wrote: 02 Jul 2025 21:34 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:03 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
Why do you respond to him? You realize he’s a troll?
Point taken.
Sometimes you just don’t realize just how far down you have to go just to reach his level.
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Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 21:49 pm
iowa blues fan wrote: 02 Jul 2025 21:34 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 16:03 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:54 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:48 pm
theograce wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:10 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 15:03 pm Bolduc has some warts to his game. The warts can be considered major too.
How do I know….because in game 7, I believe that he had the least amount of ice time on the entire team. It’s clear Monty didn’t trust him.
It’s clear Berube didn’t trust Thomas during the Cup run. How do I know…because he often had the least amount of ice.
That might have something to do with him being a rookie and being 19 years old. Thomas having an injured wrist might have something to do with it as well. What wings should have sat in his place? Thomas was 19 and Bolduc is 2 years older….
Bolduc was last in minutes and had PP time…..Thomas hardly played special teams at all, if any, his first full season.
Two different players. I get it, you hate the trade. Not surprised, but It’s no big deal. Your opinion.
Let me tell you a secret. It had nothing to do with injuries for Thomas.

You pretending to know about how much someone trusts someone without acknowledging variables is a laugher.

The Habs didn’t trust Mally all year right? His warts must be bigger right?
Again, you hate the trade. Your opinion.
My opinion is quality RD is this league are very rare. Young, cost controlled RD men don’t come cheap. Do you really think that Bolduc was going to fetch a stud NHL All Star DMan?
Bolduc was an RFA next season….they need to pay for Holloway and Broberg, their depth was on the wing…..
What would you have done? Nothing and then pay Bolduc 4-6 million after this season?
Again, it’s your opinion…we just differ on it.
Why do you respond to him? You realize he’s a troll?
Point taken.
Sometimes you just don’t realize just how far down you have to go just to reach his level.
Tell us about Monty’s trust and how you can tell again.

I wish Bone could support you right now, but he reached a level that required intervention

Say hello from me please on Snapchat or however you two do it
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