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somni
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 11:57 am Isn't waiving someone the first step in buying them out?
The buyout period ended on June 30th. So no, I don't think he can.

It seems to be either a team picks him up. He plays in Springfield. Or he terminates his contract and signs for a lesser amount. There is a 24-hour waiting period, so I assume we won't see anything right away.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Funny enough that was the my first thought, is that San Jose needed to get to the cap floor and could use some serviceable NHL defensemen.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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This should of been done last year. There's no reason it should take three years after a blues drafted defender turns 22 to get the job.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
It was a 16 team no-trade clause I believe.

Found it: https://puckpedia.com/player/nick-leddy

"*No Trade Clause (through 2024-25 season); Modified No Trade – commences June 30, 2025 – 16 team trade list"
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
He has a (partial?) NTC like just about every vet on this team, but he does not have a NMC (no one does) so this is DA strong-arming him to move.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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stryker16 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
He has a (partial?) NTC like just about every vet on this team, but he does not have a NMC (no one does) so this is DA strong-arming him to move.
Between this and what happened to Saad, not a great advertisement for signing with the Blues for future free agents.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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Kilokaai wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:15 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
It was a 16 team no-trade clause I believe.
Yes, prior to June 30 he had a full NTC. On June 30 it changed to a 16 team NTC. Apparently San Jose is on his no-trade list (if the rumor is correct).

I thought he would be a good mentor and partner for Mailloux on the third pair. Oh well. I'm not as high on Tucker as many others on this forum due to his lack of mobility.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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stlblues1979 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 11:33 am Someone remind me again. I know if another team claims him, that team pays his salary. If unclaimed, what happens salary wise for the Blues? Is the last year of his contract voided or does he get sent to the AHL, paid the same, but it doesn't count against the cap?
If sent to ahl, he counts against the cap except for whatever the league minimum nhl salary is + 375 k. That amount can be buried in the ahl for any contract. I think league minimum is about 760k so + 375k would mean 1.135 mil wouldnt count against cap of his cap hit but the rest of his cap hit would
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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Not much of a Leddy fan, but when Parayko gets hurt during the year looking at:

Broberg-Faulk
Fowler-Mailloux
Tucker-Kessel

That could get ugly.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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Leddy needed to be gone because with the Mailloux trade the Blues have 6 better Dmen than Leddy...throw in Kessel and that's 7 better. Leddy was a mistake from Day 1, another Leopold.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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Frank Barone wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:21 pm
Kilokaai wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:15 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
It was a 16 team no-trade clause I believe.
Yes, prior to June 30 he had a full NTC. On June 30 it changed to a 16 team NTC. Apparently San Jose is on his no-trade list (if the rumor is correct).

I thought he would be a good mentor and partner for Mailloux on the third pair. Oh well. I'm not as high on Tucker as many others on this forum due to his lack of mobility.
Tucker showed he deserved a spot full time in the playoffs in my opinion. Leddy was always hot and cold here. He would be very good for stretches and god awful for others.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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smilinjoefission wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:32 pm Leddy needed to be gone because with the Mailloux trade the Blues have 6 better Dmen than Leddy...throw in Kessel and that's 7 better. Leddy was a mistake from Day 1, another Leopold.
Respectfully disagree, Leddy was never a mistake.
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Re: Leddy on waivers

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IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:20 pm
stryker16 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:13 pm
sdaltons wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:11 pm
leedog68 wrote: 02 Jul 2025 12:10 pm On 101 they make it sound like he refused a trade to SJ, so they waived him for them to claim.
Uh oh that's not going to go over well :lol:
Does he have ntc in his contract? If he does not and he is refusing a trade, isn't that sufficient to unilaterally terminate his contract?
He has a (partial?) NTC like just about every vet on this team, but he does not have a NMC (no one does) so this is DA strong-arming him to move.
Between this and what happened to Saad, not a great advertisement for signing with the Blues for future free agents.
Not sure how - Saad and Leddy both signed when the Blues were in a contention window. They likely had different expectations on what they were signing on for, and now that the Blues have changed directions, the Blues are giving these aging players a chance to go try and win one more somewhere else.

If the Blues were forcing them to play in Springfield, then I'd agree a bit more. But they're giving them a chance to play at the highest level, albeit elsewhere.
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